Posted on 08/31/2008 4:28:08 PM PDT by cgk
Here is Alan Colmes in his own words, or his fans' own words, or other people's words... He's still digging.
The post about Sarah Palin’s pre-natal care was taken down because of the vile comments made by a pletehora of conservatives who decided to invade the site and show us just how decent and value-driven some of them are. Nothing like epithet-hurling if you want to make your point, or if you have strong objections to what someone says or does. Furthermore, I in no way mean to suggest that her child’s Down Syndrome was in any way related to decisions she made. In fact I never mentioned Down Syndrome in the post. However, I apologize that my post was not more clear on that point. That is my fault, and I’ll take responsibility for not being more clear on that point. That being said…
Jaru summed it up on a previous thread.
Conservative hate was re-routed via conservative blogs!
Anyway, I love how everyone keeps trying to accuse Alan of accusing Princess Mooseburger of birthing a mentally retarded child on purpose.
He asked a judgement question about a 7 month pregnant woman who just had her water break GET ON A 12 HOUR FLIGHT TO GIVE BIRTH after giving a 30 MINUTE SPEECH instead of doing the SENSIBLE THING AND STAYING PUT WITH A DOCTOR.
The idea that you can’t question Sarah Palin’s judgment because she has a Down Syndrome baby is right up there with the outrage some feel the minute you question a man who was held in a prison camp for five years. Yet, the same outraged protectors of our values have no trouble questioning Obama’s judgment: a nodding acquaintance with someone in his neighborhood, his choice of a church, his very faith, and then they blamed that on the Clintons). The question was even raised as to whether he is hiding the truth of his birth certificate. In fact, hotair.com, the the site most outraged about what I posted, was one of the prime venues of the birth certificate debate, among others concerning Obama’s “judgment”. And let’s not forget the attacks on Michelle Obama and the insinuations that she doesn’t really love her country.
For the record, I think the McCain choice of Palin was caculatingly smart, in that it guarantees that a glass ceiling be broken after the coming election. I’m sure Sarah Palin is a fine person who is just very wrong on the issues and, like all of us, hasn’t always shown perfect judgment. But don’t tell me that John McCain chose the best person for the job, or that he didn’t make this choice reactively, because Hillary Clinton is not on the Democratic ticket.
For the record, here is the link to Rogers Cadenhead’s post on the issue of judgment.
Maybe Palin’s actions can be written off as Alaskan grit, since she’s a macho hunting governor who jogs in freezing temperatures and dines on moose burgers. But as a parent myself, I think the Palins were extremely fortunate that their reckless stupidity did not end in tragedy. As middle-aged parents who already had four kids, the Palins had to be completely familiar with all the things that can go wrong in a pregnancy. One commenter on the Washington Times laid out the enormous risk she was taking:
Airlines are unequipped to handle most emergencies at 30,000 feet, particularly the kind Palin put her unborn child at markedly increased risk for. These emergencies include birthing a premature infant or uncontrolled maternal bleeding. This was her FIFTH pregnancy and delivery can happen rapidly and unexpectedly. The baby or Palin could easily have died.
The Anchorage Daily News gave the chronology of events the day Palin was in Dallas giving a speech where she began contractions, and water broke. It quotes Dr. Laurie Gregg, a Sacramnto obstetrician:
[Dr. Laurie Gregg] who is active in the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said when a pregnant woman’s water breaks, she should go right to the hospital because of the risk of infection. That’s true even if the amniotic fluid simply leaks out…”To us, leaking and broken, we are talking the same thing. We are talking doctor-speak,” Gregg said.
Down Syndrome is another matter, and can sometimes be related to a mother’s age. This is a risk that older parents take, and one the Palins took consciously, and not irresponsibly.
Because of prenatal testing, most families now know beforehand, said Judy Waldron, president of the Alaska chapter of the National Down Syndrome Congress, a support and education group that delivered a parent packet to the Palins in the hospital.
“They anticipate it and they kind of relish the challenge of having a child with special needs,” said Waldron, an Anchorage teacher whose 19-year-old daughter, Lyn, has Down syndrome.
If we are going to evaluate candidates based on life decisions: what churches they attend, what religions they practice, who their preachers are, who their friends are, all of which fall under the rubrick of “judgment”, then all of this is fair game. That argument cuts many ways so, to quote my least favorite president, “Bring it on.”
Palin is more man than Colmes ever was, and more woman than he’ll ever get.
Thank you cgk for this thread.
This is the only “Colmes” related thread I will post just one statement in.
Colmes is a typical liberal.
He will do anything and say anything for personal attention, personal gratification and ratings.
Generally speaking, liberals do not have the ability to think things through.
They generally thrive on their feelings, their emotions, their passions, their
agendas, sound bites, and glossy visuals.
Back to Colmes, he is today’s winner of the STUCK ON STUPID award and the IDIOT ALERT award.
I'm not sure this would make them squirm. The Obama supporters are so anti-family, they are probably considering using the same slogan (can't allow "breeders", now, can we?)
But as a parent myself
Egads, he' reproduced!!
Colmes is putrid.
I dont know how hannity has restrained himself from wringing that geek’s pencil neck.
Obama and Ayers had more like a ‘nod and a winking’ acquaintence...
I, too, have seen the wooden Indian statue in Cherokee, and you just insulted it by comparing it to Colmes.
What’s that joke: He fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down?
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All things are completely subjective with the Left, and they'll be the judge of that. Or, at least as many Leftist federal judges they can pack the federal courts with.
I can listen to Hannity on radio, but not TV. When Colmes comes on he is so completely obnoxious most of the time and mainly because he SPINS...and this Sarah Palin is a perfect example of it...especially because he doesn’t have the facts and is only interested in throwing mud...UGGGG. I wrote to Hannitty and told him to shake lose of this guy, and put another message on the Colmes link which told him where to put it.
Yeah, it’s not like he could have just reposted his own original piece and locked the comments.
Yep Alan, we believe you...
Geez, what a maroon.
My son and daughter in law, when expecting our granddaughter 4 years ago declined the test... (she was 38) They weren’t going murder the kid anyway, so why the added pressure?
It is a myth that infection will result if a birth doesn't occur within hours of the water breaking. It is only true if the women tests positive for vaginal strep. This is true in 20% of cases. If the woman tests negative, it is safe to deliver up to 96 hours after the water breaks, because the cervix seals up a mucus plug to seal the baby. Sarah Palin took NO reckless risks to her baby. This is simply untrue and demonstrates medical ignorance on the part of Colmes.
Many men and far too many women are totally ignorant when it comes to birthing. Go and see "The Business of Being Born" to see how medicine has thoroughly f**ked up women's lives with unneeded interventions and medicated inducements which increase the number of C-sections exponentially.
I guess we can guess the real reason you exercised such poor judgment there. Explain that one.
The funny, or perhaps sad, thing is that Alan and his cohorts are the first to shout down anyone that would, in their words, tell a woman what to do with their own body. I suppose that does not apply to a mother giving birth to her fifth bundle of joy, especially one with an R next to her name.
Your full of Sh!t, Your feet stink, and you don’t love Jesus...
This was her 5th child. She knew what she was doing better than you do.
Well, Colmes people with good judgement do not believe in killing unborn babies.
1) prenatal recklessness;
2) claiming her minor daughter's child as her own to avoid embarrassment; and
3) getting pregnant before she was married.
Can you imagine what her kids are going through? They're preparing to send their eldest brother to Iraq in a few days when they suddenly hear their mom's been named as a VP candidate. The very next day, Colmes gets on national TV and says the eldest brother is illegitimate (how's that for supporting out military?). The same day the liberal bloggers are accusing the teenage sister of having an illegitimate baby. The next day, Palin’s birthing experience is called into question.
These people have no hearts.
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