Posted on 09/01/2008 12:14:57 AM PDT by neverdem
ST. PAUL, Minn. -- This one was really different.
John McCain has flummoxed the leaders of his Republican Party and most of the media by picking Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. It's a choice no other candidate conceivably could have made -- a typical McCain gamble, unpredictable in its consequences.
The least plausible part of the McCain camp's scenario for Palin is the hope that she will help capture dissident Hillary Clinton voters. If my reporting in New Hampshire and Colorado is right, there were fewer of those voters -- even before the Democratic convention...
--snip--
The two-step reaction is best capsulized in the comments of a very smart veteran campaign operative, a New Hampshire delegate and early Mitt Romney supporter, who told me: "When I first heard, I was appalled. I thought we had forfeited the election. But then I got a call from my 22-year-old daughter. She's a pro-choice voter, just like I am. But she was very excited and enthused by this choice. She is captivated by Palin's life story, the way she has taken on the odds. She may be more acute than I am."
That's the reaction McCain is counting on, not just among Republicans but, importantly, among independents and women, where most of the undecided votes are. And without realizing it, Obama may have boosted the odds on this gamble paying off.
Obama began his campaign for the nomination as the outsider candidate, promising fundamental change in Washington and offering a post-partisan approach to politics. With time, he has come to be seen as a much more conventional Democrat, now half of a ticket based in Congress, the least admired institution in a widely scorned capital. Millions who saw his acceptance speech heard a standard recital of liberal Democratic programs...
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
Hence, the panic in Camp Obama. Soros wants a return on his investment and it just got a lot harder for Obama to deliver.
Interesting about the pro-choice voter and her pro-choice daughter being excited about Palin.
I think that the liberals pander to voters in some ways. For example, it’s an insulting simplistic pander to assume that women voters are concerned mainly or only with abortion rights. It’s a simplistic pander to assume that black voters are only concerned with race or affirmative action type programs.
So these women, who don’t agree with Sarah on the abortion question, will give her due consideration.
John Kerry said that women voters won’t be seduced by Sarah Palin on the Republican ticket. He’s right that LIBERAL DEMOCRAT women won’t vote for McCain/Palin in big numbers. But most women aren’t the rigid liberal / radical type.
And to think that Democratic operatives such as Mark Penn from Hillary’s campaign expected to get lots of support from Republican women if Hillary was the Democrat nominee. They would have expected Republican women to cross over and support the sisterhood of the traveling pantsuit in the person of Hillary, yet deny that anything of the sort could happen with Democrat women crossing over to vote McCain/Palin.
Will be intersting to see where this all goes.
We may well have a sequel of the 2000 election: Soros/LoserDem II.
Not responsible? Not responsible?
Run that by me again. Democrats are not responsible?
I suppose that's true in the sense that the Democrats are irresponsible. But in the sense that Broder unquestionably meant the remark, it is complete nonsense.
Democrats and their wrong-headed social engineering are almost solely responsible for virtually all the ills that beset us as a nation.
You’ve got that right. It’s time for Boy Soros to “MoveOn” to some other country. He’s not getting this one. It’s ours.
| How else Palin Could Help
I'm sure that Obama and Whatsisname were out campaigning somewhere today; has anyone heard a word about it? Between the hurricane, the RNC, and noise about Palin, Obama can't get a word in edgewise. |
I can’t believe you called whatsisname, whatsisname. I think he just attained the street name of “the old white wrinkly guy - whatsisname.”
People are badly underestimating this woman.
She has an amazing record of accomplishment, an 80 % approval rating as governor. She beat two incumbent govs with no money and not party backing. She runs on a strictly conservative platform.
She got 73% of the vote in her last election for mayor.
Think about how many tough problems she faced being mayor of a small town for 10 years- she just delivered at the same time obama was listening to wright, meeting with ayers, blowing 100 mill on god knows what. She is going to make the libs pray for reagan and bush.
obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies, sarah wants to raise babies and kill taxes.
So David Broder join the refrain. Altogether now:
Lost in the Beltway again
Yes I’m lost in the Beltway again
I can no longer think
So that just leaves me drink
Oh I’m lost in the Beltway again
Seriously, Governor Palin as McCain’s VEEP pick was discussed almost to ad nauseum on the internet and even on some cable networks.
She was not necessarily the favorite, but her strengths and weaknesses we clearly known. Many recognized she was the best pick for McCain though we worried he would not see it. And I think the results since he picked her bear out that we and he were right.
So what is it about these Beltway pundits including some on the right? Do they not have the internet inside the Beltway? Are DirectTV/Dishnetwork and cable TV not available? Or do they just think they are so smart, they should not check out what the peons are thinking or talking about?
I hadn't heard it put that way before. :o)
I think Palin is a very clever choice as running mate. McCain really pulled that one out of left field (well, right field actually).
I worry somewhat that she might be too clever a choice, that she is so obviously an attempt to woo women voters; counter Obama’s youth; shore up conservative republican support; and so on, that it might be seen by the electorate as being manipulative.
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isn’t it interesting to see how the obwana camp and the libRATS are now focusing all their energy attacking palin and not mccain ? that proves how much sarah has scared the heck out of em.
At only this moment I miss having a Parliament because this should be shouted at the other side while staring them directly in the face!
I just sent the following e-mail to him
Mr Broder,
You had the following statement in an article I just read:
“The Democrats’ great advantage is that they are not responsible for the pain and frustration that many voters have suffered in the Bush years.”
I beg to differ with you. I see it more like this:
“The Democrats’ great advantage is that they are not perceived as being responsible for the pain and frustration that many voters have suffered in the Bush years.”
I believe that the media has been so biased that people are convinced they are worse off and it is Bush’s fault. The economy was doing fine until the Democrats took over the majority in Congress. That’s when it all started going downhill. Most of us are not worse off.
(the e-mail bounced so now I’ve got to figure out his real e-mail addy. The one he has posted is obviously wrong)
I was pumping gas and a SUV, which followed me into the station, stops at the pump behind me. Suddenly a woman jumps out and runs over to me like she wanted to kill me. Instead she reached out her hand and said, “I wanted to shake your hand because you are one of the few people I've seen with a McCain sticker.”
She then told me how pleased she was that McCain picked Palin and that it affected her so much that she stayed up all night watching Fox for all she could find out about Sarah Palin.
She told me that she was like many other women around the country that are just pumped about a woman like her. And the more they find out about her, the more excited they will get.
I think that McCain found that magic to take him to the White House.
I was pumping gas and a SUV, which followed me into the station, stops at the pump behind me. Suddenly a woman jumps out and runs over to me like she wanted to kill me. Instead she reached out her hand and said, “I wanted to shake your hand because you are one of the few people I've seen with a McCain sticker.”
She then told me how pleased she was that McCain picked Palin and that it affected her so much that she stayed up all night watching Fox for all she could find out about Sarah Palin.
She told me that she was like many other women around the country that are just pumped about a woman like her. And the more they find out about her, the more excited they will get.
I think that McCain found that magic to take him to the White House.
Thanks neverdem for posting this column by the great William Safire. I wish he would write more.
This election is so much fun! I can hardly wait till the presidential and VP debates!
Just hear her speaking,YES SHE CAN, and it will no more be seen as manipulative except by raghead demokraps cornered to make SEXIST statements....
The real target is always states and not national polls.
We are left to analyze which states McCain’s calculus told him this would help in.
Biden wanted to segregate Iraq and quit;what the heck good is experience if your wrong and have a weak stomach?
And Obama is even worse!
McCain’s VP choice has stymied the BO mini bounce expected by that Berlinish Convention...now Gustav provides more coverage for the BO Campaign but the knock out is coming, the Annenberg Papers are not forgotten.
Huh? Does it mean Bush is the only who has been mean to everybody which created the partisan warfare?
See Palin wearing fur and as Commander of the Alaska National Guard:
“”Or do they just think they are so smart, they should not check out what the peons are thinking or talking about?”
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Bingo!
And good musical analogy!
For those who don’t understand the musical reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDAEXn8RJFs
Great slide show. You should post that as its own thread.
That's cause Sarah Palin is the woman all of us wish we could be.
Mr. Broder, did you ever consider that maybe McCain wanted a true reformer on his side to help him reform all of the awfulness of your “inside the beltway” mentality? And that maybe he thought that this would appeal to a majority of Americans (male, female, black, white, Hispannic)? Wow, imagine that... making a choice based on principle. Oh, and how does this compare with the selection of “Scrappy Joe from Scranton” — you know: change you can believe in!
“Democrats and their wrong-headed social engineering are almost solely responsible for virtually all the ills that beset us as a nation.”
You should see the disconnect here in Michigan. The state is run by a clueless Berkeley communist governor, and the highest unemployment in the nation, the loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs and a collapsing realty market are all blamed on Bush. And the idiots believe it.
The majority of people here are stone-cold stupid.
VERY GOOD POINT... I didn’t pick it up on the first read. Irresponsible really is a good word to stick on the Dems...
Isn't that the truth.
John that line screamed out to me as well. It’s one of the largest and most widely held myths I’ve ever known.
When I read your post, it occurred to me that Charles Manson has decades of experience with the legal system. Still, I don't think I'd want him as my lawyer.
Hope so.
“...a typical McCain gamble, unpredictable in its consequences.” ~ David Broder
Sorry, but I stopped reading right there as I reject his premise.
McCain’s pick is neither a gamble nor does it have unpredictible consequences.
Read it and weep, ‘RATS:
Strategic Vision Pollster Predicted Palin VP Pick last year
newxmax ^ http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Pollster_Predicted_Palin_/2008/08/30/126415.html?utm_medium=RSS
David E. Johnson, CEO of Strategic Vision, LLC accurately predicted the presidential nomination of Arizona Senator John McCain in 2007 on POTUS Radio when all political experts had written McCains obituary.
Johnson also predicted that Alaska Governor Sarah Palin would be McCains running mate in March 2007.
Johnson reiterated that Palin would be the candidate following Barack Obamas selection of Joseph Biden as his running mate.
Johnson based his predictions upon polling done by Strategic Vision, LLC in key battleground states and his own political expertise of over twenty years.
Based upon our polling in key battleground states in 2007 and early 2008, all indicators pointed to John McCain as the only plausible Republican presidential nominee, said David E. Johnson, CEO of Strategic Vision, LLC. Our polling showed that McCain was the second choice of the other candidates supporters particularly in Florida which really made McCains nomination possible.
Our polling in 2008 have shown that Barack Obama underperforms among female voters particularly in the states of Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin that provides an opening for Senator McCain, continued Johnson.
Additionally, John McCain has a unique opportunity to present the future of the Republican Party in his vice presidential selection.
All of this indicated a strong dedicated conservative that would be outside of the box and Sarah Palin headed that list along with her appeal to social and fiscal conservatives and her moving life story.
Strategic Vision polling in the key battleground states of Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, and non-traditional battleground states such as New Jersey indicate that 25% to 35% of Hillary Clinton supporters will not vote for Barack Obama and might consider voting for John McCain based upon his running mate.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
PRECISELY. And that’s why the MSM is so frightened. Gov. Palin may not appeal to radical fem libs but will appeal to many ordinary working moms. Which group is larger?
That is excellent! Mind if I use it?
"Four presidents generally ranked in the top fifteen by historians have had experience comparable to Governor Palins prior to assuming office:By: Freeper RogerD
Franklin Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and Grover Cleveland.Sarah Palin spent four years as a City Council Member for Wasilla, Alaska, six years as Mayor of Wasilla, and two years as Governor of Alaska.
FDR spent just over two years in the New York State Senate, eight years as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, and four years as Governor of New York.
Theodore Roosevelt three years in the New York State Assembly, two years as Governor of New York, one year as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, and less than one year as Vice President of the United States.
Woodrow Wilson spent eight years as President of Princeton University and two years as Governor of New Jersey.
Grover Cleveland spent two years as Sheriff of Erie County, two years as Mayor of Buffalo, and two years as Governor of New York.
Overall, Id say that Palins background is comparable with that of several presidents considered highly successful, even considering that her state has a smaller population than the other two states on the list.
While Obama has been running for office for as long as Palin has been running a state...
An excellent analysis Roger!
That's because there hasn't been time to put any words up on the teleprompter so he could say them.
Very believable. - From the Hillary Forum:
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