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Obama's Letter Promoting Elimination of Democracy
publiusforum.com ^ | 09/01/08 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 09/01/2008 5:59:10 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

Any speculation that Barack Obama will suddenly find it in his heart to accept ages old democratic practices can be put to rest with a letter he recently wrote urging a company to eliminate the secret ballot of workers being solicited for union membership.

The Baker City Herald has the story of Beef Northwest, a food service company, that is undergoing union agitation. Employees of Beef Northwest are being urged to join the United Farm Workers union and Obama sent a letter in support of that initiative.

Some of the employees that want the union openly signed cards saying they want the union and want to eschew a secret ballot. Beef Northwest is maintaining that the "card check" vote is not legitimate and wants a secret ballot taken. For his part, Obama sent a letter against the ages old democratic process of the secret ballot...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackobama; cardcheck; obama; secretballot; unions
If the left thinks the economy is bad now, wait until Obama gets done destroying business by giving the unions payback for supporting him!
1 posted on 09/01/2008 5:59:11 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Obama is a typical leftist radical. His behavior here demonstrates that. Leftists don’t believe in the old ways of exercising democracy, like the secret ballot. They prefer their authoritarian approach. I heard them say the same thing 35 years ago, when they were just campus radicals.


2 posted on 09/01/2008 6:04:51 AM PDT by popdonnelly (I'll tell you a little secret: we're smarter and more competent than the Left.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Urgh. I hope America sees through this phony soon.


3 posted on 09/01/2008 6:08:13 AM PDT by PowerPro (McCain/Palin FTW)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
The "card-check" issue is nothing more than an attempt by unions to expand the dues base and stuff their coffers. It is not about bettering the lives and economic outlook of prospective menbers.

Nothing strikes more fear into union thugs than the threat of a secret ballot on the choice of whether to allow a union to negotiate or not.

DemoncRATS are behind this issue solely on basis of the additional funds union bosses, not the members, can pump into their re-elction campaigns.

4 posted on 09/01/2008 6:08:20 AM PDT by woofer ('Senator Obama ain't run nothin' but his mouth' - Steyn)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

He has got the Nomination at the DNC by acclamation...
Reminds something?No elections,NO DEMOCRACY,NO FREEDOM....

NOBAMA !


5 posted on 09/01/2008 6:09:32 AM PDT by Ulysse (i)
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To: woofer

Amen.


6 posted on 09/01/2008 6:10:44 AM PDT by itsthejourney
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To: woofer

This is basically a tax on workers solely for the benefit of the Democratic Party. This is one of the most egregious anti-democratic devices I have ever heard of in my life.

The secret ballot is sacrosanct but just look how the leftists throw it under the bus when that helps them attain money and power.

They are such hypocrites, (besides being plain old value reducing barbarians.)


7 posted on 09/01/2008 6:17:50 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Biden is to BS as rocks are to Stonehenge)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
[ Obama's Letter Promoting Elimination of Democracy ]

I would have to agree with obama.. Democracy is MOB RULE by mobsters and creates socialism.. Fortunatly America is a Republic.. not a demmocrat-republic but a Constitutional Republic.. Democracy is a BAD WORD.. and most of Europe and other parts of the world is cursed with it.. When hearing the word DEMOCRACY Americans should spit on the ground.. it is a nasty thing.. The AMerican constitution DOES NOT have the words democracy or democratic ANYWHERE within it.. BY DESIGN.. You know ON PURPOSE...

8 posted on 09/01/2008 6:22:56 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: woofer
"Nothing strikes more fear into union thugs than the threat of a secret ballot on the choice of whether to allow a union to negotiate or not."

Back when UPS went on strike one of the UPS Drivers told me that the "secret" ballot was mailed to them with a Return Envelope. The Envelope was pre-addressed with both the Destination AND the Return address complete with Name.

He just smiled and shook his head.

9 posted on 09/01/2008 6:24:23 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Mobile Vulgus

any copies of the actual letter ?


10 posted on 09/01/2008 6:27:40 AM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (What value does Black Liberation Theology hold in a post racial Republic?)
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To: woofer

This is basically a tax on workers solely for the benefit of the Democratic Party. This is one of the most egregious anti-democratic devices I have ever heard of in my life.

The secret ballot is sacrosanct but just look how the leftists throw it under the bus when that helps them attain money and power.

They are such hypocrites, (besides being plain old value reducing barbarians.)


11 posted on 09/01/2008 6:38:34 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Biden is to BS as rocks are to Stonehenge)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

obama has never earned an honest dime in his life. Wait til the companies decide to get along with out union workers..or will they force the company to hire union workers>


12 posted on 09/01/2008 6:46:42 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

A “caucus” is sort of a democracy, but it looks to find consensus, not promote debate or poll attitudes accurately. And that is what a union election would become, a caucus used to bully the reluctant into submission to the will of the majority, or at least the dominant faction. Those voting against the union proposals favored by the union chiefs would stand isolated and subject to the ridicule and derision of the dominant power within the union circle.

Intimidation works. At least for a while, then the peasants revolt, carrying torches and pitchforks.


13 posted on 09/01/2008 6:47:33 AM PDT by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Once Obama the Clean, blessed be his name, is elected, he will declare himself Caliph and he will send $1000 two times each year to deserving subjects!

Actually overheard the $1000 statement in a restaurant

14 posted on 09/01/2008 6:54:40 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Hussein Obama the Clean for King Pussy 2008!)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Hey... it's not like he'd let himself be nominated by acclamation....
15 posted on 09/01/2008 7:15:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Palin is more qualified than Obama.)
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To: hosepipe

The AMerican constitution DOES NOT have the words democracy
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You are a wise American! Unfortunately you are in a very small minority. Worse yet, if you believe some people’s opinions, you are in the same boat with me.


16 posted on 09/01/2008 7:16:42 AM PDT by RipSawyer (What's black and white and red all over? Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: RipSawyer
Democracy is the source of the political social disease called democracy.. Socialism is just a symptom.. of the disease.. not the cause..
Democrats are FOR democracy, (real)republicans are for a Republic..
17 posted on 09/01/2008 7:24:43 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
...Obama sent a letter against the ages old democratic process of the secret ballot...

Obama is a trained and certified Junior Community Activist. Agitation is what he knows.

18 posted on 09/01/2008 7:37:57 AM PDT by ricks_place
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To: hosepipe

But wouldn’t you agree that it has to be a democratically-elected representative republic? Otherwise, how do you keep from becoming an aristocracy?


19 posted on 09/01/2008 7:38:58 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (The first amendment doesn't end with "...as long as nobody is offended.")
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To: All

Effort to eliminate the secret ballots in union elections is becoming a common move here in CA as well. Look for it happening in your own states!


20 posted on 09/01/2008 7:39:18 AM PDT by newzjunkey (McCain-Palin. YES on CA PROP 4. (Family notification for underage abortions))
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To: hosepipe

Correct Correct Correct!!!


21 posted on 09/01/2008 8:07:12 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: TN4Liberty
[ But wouldn’t you agree that it has to be a democratically-elected representative republic? Otherwise, how do you keep from becoming an aristocracy? ]

A democracy is a form of government.. a bad form..
Iterations of the word democracy is a nebulous word..
Democrats use those nebulous meanings with great confusion.. on purpose..

A democracy is always operated by an elite.. like socialism is..
and so being UNdemocratic.. except by the elite..

A democracy is NOT democratic always because of that..
Thats WHY?.. AMerica was created to be a Republic..
With a danger of being a democracy..

Democracy is ALWAYS UNdemocratic.. because it is MOB RULE by mobsters..(always).. as can a Republic become when it becomes democratic.. Democracy is a ruse.. a myth.. a scam.. a protection scam like with the mafia.. Socialism is a protection scam.. to protect you FROM government.. thats CREATES many of the peoples problems.. Exactly like a MAFIA..

22 posted on 09/01/2008 8:15:43 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

Okay, I read it. Does that mean you agree with my premise or not?

Not arguing, just trying to clarify your alternative.


23 posted on 09/01/2008 8:21:19 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (The first amendment doesn't end with "...as long as nobody is offended.")
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To: popdonnelly

I do not believe that Obama is an American in his heart. He has grown up with godless people, and tends to go in that direction.


24 posted on 09/01/2008 11:27:39 AM PDT by tessalu
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