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Fred Thompson in 2012?
Weekly Standard ^ | 8 Sept 2008 | Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 09/01/2008 1:06:41 PM PDT by Zman

The Weekly Standard

Fred Thompson in 2012? Laying the groundwork for another presidential run. by Stephen F. Hayes 08/29/2008 3:00:00 AM

IF FRED THOMPSON was the latest entrant in the 2008 Republican primary process, he may well be the earliest in 2012. Not that he will admit it.

Over the course of the past two years, there has been much talk that the Republican party lacks a strong conservative leader. In May 2007, Thompson offered himself up and, on the issues, made a plausible case that he could be the guy. But his late entry to the presidential race, together with his refusal to do the things that successful Republican candidates have done for years, meant that he disappeared from the presidential scene almost as quickly as he'd arrived.

In an interview Thursday, Thompson acknowledged the mistakes of his campaign and conceded that his refusal to play the game the way it's been played for years cost him. "I've gone my own way--sometimes to my own detriment," Thompson says. "I discounted and underestimated the rulebook--Mitt and the Huck were raising money, forming PACs..." he says, his voice trailing off.

Consider those lessons learned. After a break following his withdrawal from the race last winter, Thompson has quietly begun doing exactly the kind of things he did not do enough of last time: solidifying relationships with grassroots conservatives, campaigning for Republicans in local races, and raising money.

Now, in conjunction with the Republican National Convention next week in Minnesota, he is launching FredPac, a political action committee devoted to electing conservatives committed to "first principles." And he is working on a book that sounds a lot like the kind of book a would-be presidential candidate might write. "I'm going to be talking about my views," he said in an interview Thursday. "And it is going to be partly autobiographical--kind of an only-in-America story."

So what's the bottom line? "Where does all of that lead me--in terms of my country, my family, where we need to go?" he asks. Then he answers his own question. "Some of it will depend, of course, on who wins the election."

It's certainly quacking, but is it a duck? Thompson downplayed any suggestion that these moves portend another run for the presidency. "It doesn't have anything to do with my own ambition," he says.

Fair enough. It is, of course, possible to do all of these things and ultimately decide not to run for president. But as Thompson can attest, these are the kinds of steps one must take in order to run and have a chance to win.

Thompson says the PAC will support candidates who are "consistent" and "conservative" on the issues that matter most to him: judges, taxes, trade, and entitlement. "In some ways it will be a traditional PAC," he says, "but it will also be focused on the causes which will endure."

These efforts are not intended as an implicit criticism of John McCain. Thompson, who spent Monday campaigning on behalf of McCain in North Carolina, considers himself a strong supporter of his friend and former rival. Thompson said that while he would strongly prefer that McCain choose a running mate who opposes abortion--"I'd want to see the candidate be pro-life"--he would actively support a ticket that included Joe Lieberman.

Thompson says that the 2008 election will be a contest between a liberal in Barack Obama who is making attractive promises that he cannot keep and a Republican in John McCain who is willing to make difficult decisions on issues that Washington has chosen to neglect. "I don't know what we'd look like after four or eight years of Barack Obama expanding government," he says. "People have to ask the question: Who is this guy?"

Thompson will be speaking at the convention on Tuesday night. If McCain were to win in November, Thompson would almost certainly be one of the names on his short list for Attorney General and perhaps even Director of National Intelligence.

"I'm going to stay involved in the causes and people that I believe in," says Thompson.

"There are many ways to serve, and a real hunger for substance," Thompson spokesman Kevin Kellems said.

Quack.

Stephen F. Hayes is a senior writer at THE WEEKLY STANDARD.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; fredthompson; hasbeen; neverbeen; noway
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From the "It's Never Too Early Department"......
1 posted on 09/01/2008 1:06:41 PM PDT by Zman
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To: Zman

perhaps even Director of National Intelligence.”

Well, he played it in a movie.....

But seriously, Fred for President, I don’t think so.


2 posted on 09/01/2008 1:08:58 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Politicalmom; jellybean; SE Mom

Fred ping.


3 posted on 09/01/2008 1:09:33 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (I didn't leave the Republican Party. It left me.)
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To: Zman

Sorry Fred, as much as I like you you had your chance and blew it.

We will be electing incumbent Vice President Palin for President.


4 posted on 09/01/2008 1:09:47 PM PDT by diverteach (http://foolishpleasurestudio.com/eyewool/slap_hillary.html)
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To: Zman

He can run for VP in ‘12. Palin ‘12!


5 posted on 09/01/2008 1:09:55 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Zman
Sorry Fred, you had your shot.
2012 is VP Palin's if McCain decides not to have a 2nd term.
6 posted on 09/01/2008 1:09:55 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: Zman

Stay home, Fred. Send the wife, instead.


7 posted on 09/01/2008 1:10:03 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Zman

We already have a candidate for 2012; Sarah Palin!


8 posted on 09/01/2008 1:10:30 PM PDT by CARTOUCHE
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To: Zman

By then he’ll be rested and chipper for it. /sarc


9 posted on 09/01/2008 1:10:52 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Zman

Has Fred announced his 2008 candidacy yet?


10 posted on 09/01/2008 1:11:37 PM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Zman

I think that Jindal, Palin, Thune, DeMintt, Steele, Cantor...these are the new faces of the party.

I love Fred, but he will be a tad old in 2012.

Palin/Jindal 2012


11 posted on 09/01/2008 1:11:41 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Zman
Optimism is a wonderful thing, and Fred Thompson certainly needs it after his performance in this election cycle. That, or hone his acting skills so that he can simulate excitement, or even a pulse.

I'm hoping for a McCain win rather than "Thompson 2012".

12 posted on 09/01/2008 1:11:43 PM PDT by Batrachian
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To: Zman

He’s already showing signs of tiring.


13 posted on 09/01/2008 1:12:25 PM PDT by keat
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To: Zman

No thanks. How about Jindal or Palin?


14 posted on 09/01/2008 1:12:40 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Zman

Fred had his chance (and my support). He blew it. PALIN 2012!!!!!!


15 posted on 09/01/2008 1:13:36 PM PDT by ashamed_NewYorker
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To: ConservativeDude
In an interview Thursday, In the Olden Days BSP
16 posted on 09/01/2008 1:13:54 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Anybody remember the old days when the US Presidential race was boring?)
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To: Zman

Palin / Jindal 2012


17 posted on 09/01/2008 1:14:08 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Zman

Sorry, as much as I love Fred, he’s past history.


18 posted on 09/01/2008 1:14:20 PM PDT by rivercat (Sarah Palin '12)
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To: Zman
Fred's the candidate I've been most enthused about since Ronald Reagan but I fear McCain will win and Fred will never have another chance. Don't get me wrong, I'll be voting for McCain. Why? Because I can't let Obama be president.
19 posted on 09/01/2008 1:15:38 PM PDT by McGruff ("We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek." Huh?)
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To: Zman

Palin/Jindal 2012


20 posted on 09/01/2008 1:16:21 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: Zman

Well, maybe four years is enough time to grow a fire in his belly to actually run instead of just participating.


21 posted on 09/01/2008 1:17:22 PM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: Zman

...and Fred will do just as horribly in 2012.


22 posted on 09/01/2008 1:18:41 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (1/27th Infantry Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: Zman

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


23 posted on 09/01/2008 1:19:19 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

Or, maybe have made up his mind!


24 posted on 09/01/2008 1:20:11 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Coldwater Creek

He could star in a film where he is President, that might work.


25 posted on 09/01/2008 1:23:53 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Zman

Fred’s gonna look worse than Hillary in 2012!


26 posted on 09/01/2008 1:26:26 PM PDT by ryan71 (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: diverteach
We will be electing incumbent Vice President Palin for President.

Heh heh heh! You got it!

27 posted on 09/01/2008 1:27:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Go get 'em Sarah!!!! America has your back!)
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To: Zman

If Fred truly had much better overall results than what he really did this year during his entire Presidential run, then he would definitely have a serious chance the next time. Fred blew it in ‘08, and I truly don’t see him completely doing everything that he truly needs to do to seriously win any possible future Presidential run. The same things can also truly be said about Duncan Hunter, Sr., Tom Tancredo, and Mike Huckabee, IMHO. Rudy Giuliani will probably soon be running for Governor of New York, and Mitt Romney’s political future is truly a “big unknown” at the present time. Mitt may also truly be finished politically.


28 posted on 09/01/2008 1:27:24 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: Zman

Sorry but not no, HELL NO! If he was a lazy a$$ this time around, he’ll need a hover-round chair for 2012. Sorry Fred you blew it BIG TIME!


29 posted on 09/01/2008 1:27:35 PM PDT by Bommer ( Osama Bin Ladin - A Dumb@ss Muslim! Obama/ Biden - A Muslim with a Dumb@ss!)
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To: Zman

Wow, I am impressed with the unanimity here!

Yes, Palin, if she and McCain pull this off, is the future of the party and the movement. We are in fact better off now than at any time since Reagan lost in 76. We at least have a candidate for the future.

This election is not just about the next 4 years, though, they are critical obviously. They are about our future as a movement. Which is why the left is freaking out about Palin!


30 posted on 09/01/2008 1:27:36 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Nah, if / when McCain wins, Mitt will probably have a job. He’s got a future. Maybe not POTUS, but a future, without a doubt.


31 posted on 09/01/2008 1:28:38 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: streetpreacher

“Palin/Jindal 2012”

Can we call 6 terms (24 years) a dynasty?


32 posted on 09/01/2008 1:28:40 PM PDT by ryan71 (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: All

I was/am a Fred supporter and was very disappointed that he dropped out of the race, but I also know that his time at the top of the ticket has passed. We have some young exciting CONSERVATIVES in Jindal and Palin and there time is now. BUT there still is a place for Fred if he wants to serve, and that is in Congress. We need him to run again for the Senate so we can have conservatives to implement the policies that have gone by the wayside. I think Fred could be an asset but, unfortunately he’s now a supporting player, not the star.


33 posted on 09/01/2008 1:28:54 PM PDT by offduty (NoBama '08....Keep the Change)
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To: Zman

I wish that I could have cast a vote for Fred this November. Never say never but Fred had his chance and even with the weakest field in my memory, he just wasn’t up for it. When you lose to a man taking coach-class airlines to speeches and has almost all of his campaign directors resign en masse, either the will or the effort just ain’t there.


34 posted on 09/01/2008 1:28:59 PM PDT by Cyman
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As a previously heavy Fred supporter, "no thanks".

Fred may certainly have a place in the party and possibly within the next administration. Yet I think his days for seeking the Oval office have passed. I wouldn't commit myself to supporting him again.

Besides, I got another girl in mind...

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35 posted on 09/01/2008 1:30:27 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Zman
Dream 2012 ticket:

Palin/Jindal

Fred as Secretary of State, given the mandate to clean it up and make it represent AMERICAN interests again

Thomas Sowell as Treasury Secretary

Walter Williams as HUD honcho

Dept of Education abolished

36 posted on 09/01/2008 1:30:33 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Bommer
If he was a lazy a$$ this time around, he’ll need a hover-round chair for 2012.

LOL! Good one. First time I've laughed all day.
37 posted on 09/01/2008 1:31:17 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: Zman

Uh, no.


38 posted on 09/01/2008 1:31:35 PM PDT by SilencingTheDevil
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To: Zman
From the "It's Never Too Early Department"....

He should wait until 2024.

39 posted on 09/01/2008 1:32:06 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Zman

He’s showed he ain’t got the ambition.


40 posted on 09/01/2008 1:34:29 PM PDT by webrover
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To: Zman

I was a Fred Thompson supporter from the very beginning. His lackluster, feckless performance convinced me that he is not a prime time player.


41 posted on 09/01/2008 1:37:30 PM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: ConservativeDude

This is why I’m not so sure about Mitt’s political future. Would Mitt truly and willingly accept a cabinet position in a possible McCain administration? Remember, both McCain and Romney really do hate each other, despite both of them saying that they have “made up”. In fact, would any of the former GOP Presidential candidates accept cabinet positions, if seriously asked, in a possible McCain administration? What would a McCain administration seriously look like? I still see a possible President McCain picking some Democrats, RINO’s, and conservatives for a variety of cabinet positions/other administrative positions.


42 posted on 09/01/2008 1:40:43 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: Zman

I gave $115 to Fred. And my answer is no.


43 posted on 09/01/2008 1:43:22 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt (Conservative Podcast: The Truth and Hope (http://www.truthandhope.2truth.com))
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To: Zman

Palin / Jindal 2012


44 posted on 09/01/2008 1:43:46 PM PDT by TWfromTEXAS
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To: Zman
I am beginning to move into the camp of the “new and up & coming future conservatives” like Bobby Jindal, Sahah Palin, Michael Steele, Eric Cantor, Pawlenty types, as well as Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo and others... leaving the old Thompson, Huckabee, Giulani and Romney types.

I do, however, hold out hope for 'combacks' to some sort of leadership positions for still young Rick Santorum and George Allen types.

45 posted on 09/01/2008 1:46:55 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime member of the "Christian-Radical-Right-Wing-Kook-Factor")
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To: McGruff
Fred's the candidate I've been most enthused about since Ronald Reagan but I fear McCain will win and Fred will never have another chance. Don't get me wrong, I'll be voting for McCain. Why? Because I can't let Obama be president.

My thoughts exactly. I wouldn't mind seeing him as AG, though - we need someone who really respects the Constitution to rein in the BATFE thugs.

46 posted on 09/01/2008 1:47:47 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obomination from becoming President)
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To: McGruff
Fred's the candidate I've been most enthused about since Ronald Reagan but I fear McCain will win and Fred will never have another chance. Don't get me wrong, I'll be voting for McCain. Why? Because I can't let Obama be president.

My thoughts exactly. I wouldn't mind seeing him as AG, though - we need someone who really respects the Constitution to rein in the BATFE thugs.

47 posted on 09/01/2008 1:47:49 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obomination from becoming President)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore; All
If the primary is between Palin or Romney, I would choose Palin in a heartbeat.. I don't think Mitt would run in 2012 if McCain wins..

From what I understand they are buddies and I forsee Mitt as Treasury Secretary in a McCain administration. ..

I think the ticket is going to be Palin/Jindal..
48 posted on 09/01/2008 1:52:45 PM PDT by KevinDavis (If Obama can't handle a town hall debate, then he can't handle the job of being President.)
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To: Zman
Let's be clear, the GOP doesn't reward serious big time failures. Forbes ran in 1996 and was the flavor of the month, ended up winning only 2 primaries. Came back in 2000, spent more than Romney did and dropped out after Delaware.

Fred Thompson is Steve Forbes, but with less money.

As for Palin, her chance to get to the White House is this year through the Vice-Presidency. McCain did conservatives a huge favor with this pick. Without being Vice-President, Palin would have to do the normal Presidential Candidate thing in 2011 which is spend two years campaigning for the presidency. Somehow, I don't think Alaskans would stand for it. If she was Vice-President, it would be different.

If this doesn't end with a McCain/Palin victory, the 2012 race will be between the 2 top finishers. Get ready for Huckabee v. Romney: This Time It's Personal.

49 posted on 09/01/2008 1:53:09 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt (Conservative Podcast: The Truth and Hope (http://www.truthandhope.2truth.com))
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Same here.. It is time for old guard to step down.. I think had George Allen not lost the Senate seat he could have been our nominee. Just pure speculation..


50 posted on 09/01/2008 1:54:32 PM PDT by KevinDavis (If Obama can't handle a town hall debate, then he can't handle the job of being President.)
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