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UK Telegraph: Dutch withdraw spy from Iran because of 'impending US attack'
Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9:24AM BST 01 Sep 2008 | Bruno Waterfield in Brussels

Posted on 09/01/2008 2:42:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Dutch intelligence service has pulled an agent out of an "ultra-secret operation" spying on Iran's military industry because spymasters in Netherlands believe a United States air attack was imminent.

According to reports in the newspaper De Telegraaf, the country's intelligence service, the AIVD, has stopped an espionage operation aimed at infiltration and sabotage of the weapons industry in Iran.

"The operation, described as extremely successful, was halted recently in connection with plans for an impending US air attack on Iran," said the report.

"Targets would also be bombed which were connected with the Dutch espionage action."

"Well placed" sources told the paper that a top agent had been recalled recently "because the US was thought to be making a decision within weeks to attack Iran with unmanned aircraft".

"Information from the AIVD operation has in recent years been shared with the American CIA secret service."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bombiran; espionage; geopolitics; iran; iraniannukes; islam; mohammedanism; netherlands; nukes; rumor

1 posted on 09/01/2008 2:42:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: jveritas; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; elhombrelibre; ...

fyi


2 posted on 09/01/2008 2:44:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The UK Telegraph makes the NYT look like the Encyclopedia Britannica.


3 posted on 09/01/2008 2:48:09 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe the Dutch are working with us on this. Their statement will make the Iranians even more mistrustful of each other than they already are (looking for the Dutch spies and the Iranians who may be helping them) and more fearful about what we may be about to do. Even if it’s just a head fake, it makes them nervous.


4 posted on 09/01/2008 2:54:55 PM PDT by Stirner
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Don’t you think the Iranians would have noticed the wooden shoes?


5 posted on 09/01/2008 2:55:02 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Pssst, his name was Lars Olefson!


6 posted on 09/01/2008 2:55:28 PM PDT by Holicheese (The sound you hear is another nail in the Yankees coffin!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
UK Telegraph: Dutch withdraw spy from Iran because of 'impending US attack'

One can only hope.

7 posted on 09/01/2008 2:55:37 PM PDT by Nachum (Obama: building a religion)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Just messin’ with ‘em.


8 posted on 09/01/2008 2:56:14 PM PDT by marron
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

John has a long mustache.


9 posted on 09/01/2008 2:58:27 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ( They told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The chair is against the wall.


10 posted on 09/01/2008 2:59:03 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ( They told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Planted Blown Cover.

This is to try and prevent Israel from attacking Iran, and to get the Russians even more excited.

Who is behind it?

The European Union.

This is something the French would do.

It smells of Pate Fois Gras.

Condi Rice PING!

11 posted on 09/01/2008 3:02:07 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (http://www.theobamafile.com/))
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To: pfflier

Clop. Clop. Clop. Clop. Shhhh! Don’t tell anyone. Clop. Clop. Clop.


12 posted on 09/01/2008 3:04:28 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wounds my heart with monotonous languor.


13 posted on 09/01/2008 3:05:33 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ( They told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated)
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To: All
Earlier report...FR Thread:

Dutch Pull Spies On Iran Attack Fears

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The article was written by Joost de Haas, known for his good contacts in the intelligence world. Earlier, he got hold of an AIVD report which suggested that corrupt powers within Dutch police corps supplied weapons to criminals to liquidate other criminals.

14 posted on 09/01/2008 3:12:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Darn! It was supposed to be a surprise on the last night of the Republican Convention -— McCain singing “Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” while pressing the button.


15 posted on 09/01/2008 3:13:10 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Well placed" sources told the paper that a top agent had been recalled recently "because the US was thought to be making a decision within weeks to attack Iran with unmanned aircraft".

HUH?

16 posted on 09/01/2008 3:13:35 PM PDT by blam
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Well placed" sources told the paper that a top agent had been recalled recently "because the US was thought to be making a decision within weeks to attack Iran with unmanned aircraft".

HUH?

17 posted on 09/01/2008 3:15:37 PM PDT by blam
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To: Cementjungle; Stirner; marron

See #14.


18 posted on 09/01/2008 3:15:39 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I wonder what the Dutch agent’s screen name is over at Kos..... the kooks over there think an Iran attack is going to happen every week.


19 posted on 09/01/2008 3:17:12 PM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"ultra-secret operation"

Oh, I believe this one. ROFL!
20 posted on 09/01/2008 3:17:17 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: blam

Didn’t you just have a Hurricane go thru down there .....and you can still post...amazing!


21 posted on 09/01/2008 3:17:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: blam
This report has pictures:

Dutch Spies Quit Iran Due to ‘Imminent U.S. Attack’: From De Telegraaf of The Netherlands

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August 31st, 2008 by WILLIAM KERN

According to Friday Morning’s Edition Of The Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf, the Dutch intelligence service has halted a very successful operation to ’sabotage’ Iran’s weapons program due to an imminent American attack that would have put its activities and personnel at risk.

Joost de Haas and Bart Mos of De Telegraaf report in part:

“The Dutch Intelligence Service AIVD [Algemene Inlichtingen- en Veiligheidsdienst or General Intelligence and Security Service ] has in recent years been running a top secret operation inside Iran with the aim of infiltrating and sabotaging the weapons industry of the Islamic republic.

The operation, described as being extremely successful, was recently discontinued in connection of plans for an imminent U.S. air strike on Iran. Well-informed sources have told De Telegraaf, some of the targets of the strike are directly linked to the Dutch espionage operation.”

By Joost de Haas and Bart Mos

Translated By Jan de Nijs

August 29, 2008

The Netherlands - De Telegraaf - Original Article (Dutch)

The Dutch Intelligence Service AIVD [Algemene Inlichtingen- en Veiligheidsdienst or General Intelligence and Security Service ] has in recent years been running a top secret operation inside Iran with the aim of infiltrating and sabotaging the weapons industry of the Islamic republic.

The operation, described as being extremely successful, was recently discontinued in connection of plans for an imminent U.S. air strike on Iran. Well-informed sources have told De Telegraaf, some of the targets of the strike are directly linked to the Dutch espionage operation.

NUCLEAR BOMB

Tehran is widely suspected of working on an atomic bomb and refusing to comply with demands by the West to stop enriching uranium.

READ ON AT WORLDMEETS.US, along with continuing translated foreign press coverage of how the world perceives our nation.


22 posted on 09/01/2008 3:21:51 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If this is true, it is Great News. War with Iran will ensure the election of the McCain/Palin ticket.


23 posted on 09/01/2008 3:25:02 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Reporters should be legally banned from dealing with intelligence issues of any kind - ever.

Take this logical mind-number: “The operation, described as extremely successful, was halted” Um, if it was soo successful then why would the US need to bomb Iran?? The operation was trying to sabotage the Iranian nuclear program.

Nobody talks about withdrawing spies. If you did, your citizens would never be allowed to travel because every other country would think they are all spies. You would never be able to get into countries like Iran if they knew you were spying. So it’s pretty obvious that nobody involved in intelligence is going to talk to the media about it.

Only politician-turds who are on the outside but wish they were on the inside talk to the media.

OH, and pro-terrorist types LOVE to leak crap like to the media knowing that it will run with virtually no fact checking. It’s called counter-intelligence propaganda. Iran and it’s allies get to claim that it is a victim of the US without the US having done anything. Fidel Castro, anyone?


24 posted on 09/01/2008 3:26:11 PM PDT by bpjam (Obama is Black. Stop Asking Questions, Dammit!!!)
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To: All
Biden goes on record....as an appeaser:

Biden tells Israel, accept Iran's bomb

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In the unsourced report, Army Radio also quoted Biden as saying that he opposed "opening a additional military and diplomatic front."

25 posted on 09/01/2008 3:29:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ja, Ja, Ja!!!

Ve finds ze nuclear cintrifigul machines und zen we zrows the wooden shoes in zem.... ze are called sabot... hence sabotage...


26 posted on 09/01/2008 3:40:57 PM PDT by Ronin (Is there some rule that says that when an evil man gets sick, we must pretend he was a saint?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Article with pictures even! It’ll make the Iranians think the attack is coming from drones when in fact it’ll arrive from Missouri in another form :-)


27 posted on 09/01/2008 3:41:39 PM PDT by CARTOUCHE
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To: Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Ax; Azeem; ...
MI Ping

Dutch Secret Agent Man?

28 posted on 09/01/2008 3:41:44 PM PDT by ASA Vet (White)
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To: CARTOUCHE
Bingo!

(B2 was the last one I needed on my card.)

29 posted on 09/01/2008 3:44:33 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The only way to find out for sure whether an attack was imminent, would be to discover that the Wikipedia entry on the Nuclear program of Iran has been recently extensively updated.
30 posted on 09/01/2008 4:34:13 PM PDT by Mrs. Plutarch
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Who knows about stories like this. . .

Bravo Sierra or good intel . . .

So, we’re just gonna keep our gas tanks filled all the time for a while, then....


31 posted on 09/01/2008 4:57:49 PM PDT by BabaOreally
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Didn’t you just have a Hurricane go thru down there .....and you can still post...amazing!"

Yes, still. Not bad though. I'm east of the most serious part.

32 posted on 09/01/2008 5:13:46 PM PDT by blam
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To: Stirner

This “news” would not have been published if there were not a government purpose to its publication.


33 posted on 09/01/2008 5:52:00 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We h ave a lot of hurricanes down here. Once in a while, a great while, we get a Katrina or a Camille or an Andrew. Most of them are just part of The Weather and do not end life as we know it.This storm had special import because of its possible upstaging of the Republican Convention. McCain showing his acuity and guile, has turned it to Republican advantage. It will not do to the Republican convention what the announcement of Palin as VP did to Hussein’s Great Frat Party Speech


34 posted on 09/01/2008 6:07:02 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: bpjam

this reporter would not have written any such thing if it were not “leaked” to him by the agency that wanted this to be published. This item may or may not be true at all. A government wanted it published. The government’s reason for that is obscure.


35 posted on 09/01/2008 6:09:36 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I hear the Dutch guy was on a crew installing a windmill


36 posted on 09/01/2008 6:13:07 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve--and they are about to get it --in spades.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This sounds like a bunch of BS to me...I’ve never heard of unmanned aircraft that can “attack”.


37 posted on 09/01/2008 7:47:22 PM PDT by Valentine_W
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Besides, if anyone were to target/bomb a few specific facilities in Iran I would think that would come from Israel.


38 posted on 09/01/2008 7:50:38 PM PDT by Valentine_W
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
An attack on Iranian nuclear facilities or a few outhouses? Lets get serious. We have no unmanned aircraft capable of carrying nuclear tipped 20,000 ton deep penetrator bombs. This article is a bunch of nonsense.
The main mission to destroy Iranian nuclear facilities deeply buried in bedrock and re-enforced within using re-enforced concrete will require our newest generation deep penetrators. Period. We are talking about either B52 and or B1 or B2 heavy bombers to deliver such heavy loads. And no. Our cruise missiles are not capable of carrying the type ordnance required to penetrate 150 plus feet into bedrock then explode a nuclear device.
So we would be talking about a few dozen major strikes carried out by our Navy, Marines, and Airforce to take out all ground to air defenses and all air to air defenses the Iranians would put up so that our bombers could get through and deliver their heavy stuff.
Anything less then this is pure bull shit.
39 posted on 09/01/2008 7:51:18 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice.)
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To: ASA Vet; Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Closely guarded NATO secrets gave us the NOFORN classification.
40 posted on 09/01/2008 8:47:03 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: Valentine_W

Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle (UCAV)


41 posted on 09/01/2008 9:16:02 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your own safety until the arrival of law enforcement officers)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Wow, are we impending another attack again? ;’) Thanks Ernest.

Let’s make it nuclear. Okay, I’m kidding. Sort of.

Another (big) reason Russia invaded Georgia and South Ossetia is their expectation that we’re about to dismantle the mullahcracy and liberate Iran.


42 posted on 09/01/2008 10:10:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Dutch Pull Spies On Iran Attack Fears
Press TV | August 30, 2008
Posted on 08/30/2008 6:17:56 AM PDT by Strategy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2071162/posts


43 posted on 09/01/2008 10:34:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: NY Attitude

I don’t think those have been used in combat yet...as in, they are still in the developmental stage. Feel free to correct if I’m wrong, but even if they were combat ready, what sort of weapons could they carry?


44 posted on 09/02/2008 5:10:15 AM PDT by Valentine_W
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To: Valentine_W

The Israelis and the US Government have used a version of the vehicle when taking out high value targets. This vehicle has the capability to linger in excess of 24 hours watching developments on the ground. The X-45 is still in development while the Predator and Global Hawk have been operational for a while. I believe that the Israeli version is called Hermes.


46 posted on 09/02/2008 7:28:02 AM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your own safety until the arrival of law enforcement officers)
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