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Palin on Ron Paul "Right On!" Campaign [Praises Paul]
The Nation ^ | 9-1-2008 | John Nichols

Posted on 09/02/2008 8:02:54 AM PDT by jmc813

In a February interview with MTV, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin lavished praise on maverick Republican presidential contender Ron Paul.

She had a few nice things to say about another GOP candidate, Mitt Romney.

But Palin made no mention of John McCain.

Now that McCain is the presumptive Republican presidential candidate, he has selected Palin as his prospective running-mate for vice president.

McCain calls Palin his political "soul-mate."

But, in February, at a point when McCain was closing in on the Republican nomination, it sure sounded like she was sweet on Paul.

The governor, who sported a Pat Buchanan pin at a 1999 rally for the renegade Republican presidential candidate (Pat says: "She's a great choice for the base ... She's a Buchananite"), described the anti-war, libertarian-leaning congressman from Texas as "cool."

"He's a good guy," she said of Paul. "He's so independent. He's independent of the party machine. I'm like, ‘Right on, so am I.'"

Paul supporters were delighted. In fact, they even began promoting Palin as a possible veep choice for the Texas congressman.

As it happens, Paul won't be picking a running-mate in St. Paul.

But the congressman will be in the Twin Cities.

Conveniently for Palin, Paul -- who refuses to endorse McCain -- will be holding an outside-the-convention "Rally for the Republic."

More than 10,000 tickets have already been sold for an event that is expected to draw thousands of Paul's most ardent supporters to the Target Center in Minneapolis on Tuesday.

Perhaps Palin will join them.

Or is she now with the party machine?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008rncconvention; buchanan; lp; mccain; palin; paul; ronpaul; sarahpalin; thenation
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1 posted on 09/02/2008 8:05:03 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: bamahead; mnehrling; SJackson; lormand; Allegra

Bump for some Tuesday morning head-exploding.


2 posted on 09/02/2008 8:05:53 AM PDT by jmc813 (Welcome to New York, Brett!)
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To: jmc813

“In a February interview with MTV, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin lavished praise on maverick Republican presidential contender Ron Paul.

She had a few nice things to say about another GOP candidate, Mitt Romney.

But Palin made no mention of John McCain.”

Evidence of her good judgement, assuming it was Paul’s domestic policies she was praising.


3 posted on 09/02/2008 8:06:47 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: jmc813
The Nation never fails to slime.
4 posted on 09/02/2008 8:09:56 AM PDT by sauropod (There's no stoppin' the cretins from hoppin')
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To: jmc813
No head exploding, I just think it is weird all the Paul supporters I'm reading calling her a neo-Con fascist, etc. I actually think McCain has had nice things to say about Paul, still doesn't mean I support him.. BTW, have you seen the picks from RonStock? This was the field that was supposed to house "30 thousand campers"

5 posted on 09/02/2008 8:10:28 AM PDT by mnehring (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=26012226159&ref=mf)
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To: jmc813
Conveniently for Palin, Paul -- who refuses to endorse McCain -- will be holding an outside-the-convention "Rally for the Republic."

Carried on C-SPAN2 today beginning at 1:30 EDT for those who are interested.

Here's the schedule.

6 posted on 09/02/2008 8:10:44 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: jmc813

“Or is she now with the party machine?”

Sarcasm isn’t attractive, nor particularly intellectual. Nonetheless, we should expect these types of jabs.

That Palin has had the independent thinking to express support for Ron Paul or Buchanan, shows she’s her own man (or woman). She doesn’t fall in line with the masses.

Is Palin with the party machine? I don’t think McCain himself is with the party machine. They’re both mavericks. They can both shake up the status quo in Washington.

This article hold no water. Was a waste of The Nation’s time to publish, Nichol’s time to write, and mine to read.


7 posted on 09/02/2008 8:12:43 AM PDT by hoe_cake ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." MTwain)
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To: jmc813
Ron Paul is the mirror image of Joe Lieberman.

Ron is a total doofus on national security and the war on terror, but great on everything else.

Joe Lieberman is great on national security and the war on terror and a total doofus on everything else.

Both are decent, capable men and would serve the country well in the proper capacity. That capacity just doesn't happen to be POTUS or VPOTUS.

8 posted on 09/02/2008 8:13:23 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: mnehrling
No head exploding, I just think it is weird all the Paul supporters I'm reading calling her a neo-Con fascist, etc.

Is it real Paul supporters like on FR, or plants like on that stupid ronpaulforums site?

9 posted on 09/02/2008 8:14:19 AM PDT by jmc813 (Welcome to New York, Brett!)
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To: jmc813
"Bump for some Tuesday morning head-exploding."

I guess you assume I am some "bot" and give a damn about this story.

Ping me when Palin starts spewing Al Qaeda inspired garbage like Ron Paul. I will then give a damn, I promise.

10 posted on 09/02/2008 8:15:32 AM PDT by lormand (Paulrhoids - The Hemorrhoids of American Politics)
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To: jmc813; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
"He's a good guy," she said of Paul. "He's so independent. He's independent of the party machine. I'm like, ‘Right on, so am I.'"

Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
11 posted on 09/02/2008 8:16:00 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: jmc813

There, Daily Paul, the local meetup, and the Campaign for Liberty site. There where even a few here, but they where your usual suspects, not normal FReepers. The kind that probably are kept around for the humor factor. I keep telling you dude, you really are in the minority..


12 posted on 09/02/2008 8:17:49 AM PDT by mnehring (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=26012226159&ref=mf)
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To: jmc813
Heh...


13 posted on 09/02/2008 8:18:03 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: jmc813

Hmm..and Joe Biden said that Obama had no experience to be President. SO FREAKING WHAT? We are letting the media pick our President...it has got to stop. If they succeed in destroying Sarah, what good person in their right mind will ever run again? Why? Have your family held up to ridicule, your friends, your public record trashed with lies? This has got to stop.


14 posted on 09/02/2008 8:18:48 AM PDT by Hildy ("We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.")
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To: mnehrling
Really?

I've not noticed any libertarian bloggers calling her names, other than the usual "stalking horse," etc. Which may be fitting, when you think about it.

The mayor of N'Orleans would have be a real neo-con fascist, according to Manuel Lora.

15 posted on 09/02/2008 8:19:09 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: jmc813

Personally I’m not buying the story that she was John McCain’s pick. I’m thinking that some powerfull folks pulled him aside and informed him of his pick.


16 posted on 09/02/2008 8:20:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: reaganaut1
Evidence of her good judgement, assuming it was Paul’s domestic policies she was praising.

Considering her strong pro-Israel position, I'm pretty sure that's the case (and that Paul would probably therefore have nothing to do with her).

For many years American conservatism was anti-Israel (just as American liberalism has until recently been pro-Israel, despite the fact that this is the opposite of the position of the International Left and has been since the Fifties). For a very long time pro-Israel conservatives had the choice of supporting anti-Israel conservatives or liberals. They chose the former, mostly totally unaware of their anti-Israel positions. Shoot, even Jesse Helms, the ultra-Southern Baptist, was originally virulently anti-Israel, even calling for breaking off diplomatic relations with her in '82 (he changed, thank G-d). There was a time when even Pat Buchanan attracted pro-Israel Fundamentalist support for his domestic positions even as they demonstrated their disagreement with him by wearing "Hands off Israel!" buttons.

I'd say it is the Internet that has really given traditional pro-Israel Fundamentalists a voice in a political movement where their Middle East positions were for so long ignored. No longer do Birchites and "palaeos" rule the roost. No longer is an anti-Israel position the official conservative "party line."

I should know. I used to be a John Bircher, and until that experience never dreamed there was such a thing as an anti-Israel conservative or a pro-Israel liberal. Now that old Fundamentalist worldview is becoming reality (again, thank G-d!).

17 posted on 09/02/2008 8:21:27 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ani Ledodi Vedodi Li.)
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To: jmc813; lormand
Frankly, I will give you this. Palin represents the actual personification of the areas Paul is right (in his rhetoric) without going down the blame-America first deep end where he is wrong. She actually has accomplished removing government corruption and getting the power back to the people. She has accomplished where Paul has only talked. If the majority of the Paulbots can get off the whole Neocon/Zionist paranoia, Sarah Palin can be a reason to get back on board and realize you can change from the inside in a reasonable, effective way.
18 posted on 09/02/2008 8:21:54 AM PDT by mnehring (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=26012226159&ref=mf)
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To: jmc813

Guess what. Biden didn’t support Obama in the primaries either. And said some nasty things about him.


19 posted on 09/02/2008 8:23:37 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: BigBobber

Yeah, but Biden is a democrat, and therefore can do no wrong.


20 posted on 09/02/2008 8:27:37 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: cripplecreek
I’m thinking that some powerfull folks pulled him aside and informed him of his pick.

I'm thinking you are correct, but I think those powerful people where the Conservative voters who hammered all of his offices and the RNC demanding a Conservative pick and making him realize his election was at great risk if he chose one of his pals like Lieberman. If you look at all the names that where floated, Palin was the most Conservative, second only to Eric Cantor, but she had the executive experience and kick ass/take names attitude that Cantor hasn't shown yet. This choice really proved he chose (or was forced to choose) from the Right, not the middle.

21 posted on 09/02/2008 8:28:09 AM PDT by mnehring (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=26012226159&ref=mf)
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To: Vigilanteman
Ron Paul is the mirror image of Joe Lieberman.

. . .

Both are decent, capable men . .

Where the mirror image falls apart is how each is perceived by party leadership.

Democrats don't particularly care for Lieberman, who left their party over differences on the Iraq war.

Yet the Republicans have invited him to speak at their convention. A senator whose overall voting record is about on par with Biden's gets a featured spot on tonight's convention program as reward for being a McCain backer.

How many invitations do you suppose Ron Paul has received to speak at any Democrat gathering?

22 posted on 09/02/2008 8:29:53 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: jmc813
Paul supporters were delighted. In fact, they even began promoting Palin as a possible veep choice for the Texas congressman.

LOL! I didn't know congressmen got to select VPs. When will Ron Paul admit that he has made himself a laughing stock to everyone except those who have no humour?

23 posted on 09/02/2008 8:30:21 AM PDT by HoustonTech
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To: jmc813

It’s always good to see what the Communist party thinks about stuff. The Nation also can be used for toilet paper.


24 posted on 09/02/2008 8:32:17 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: jmc813

“The governor, who sported a Pat Buchanan pin “
I thought I read here yesterday that she attended the rally and wore the pin to be polite. And, that she actually was supporting and campaigning for Steve Forbes.


25 posted on 09/02/2008 8:32:43 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Hildy
If they succeed in destroying Sarah, what good person in their right mind will ever run again? Why?

I like Palin. Unlike you Rudy-bots, most people on FR will see her agreeing with Paul on these things as a good thing.

26 posted on 09/02/2008 8:34:04 AM PDT by jmc813 (Welcome to New York, Brett!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
she actually was supporting and campaigning for Steve Forbes.

Cool, she just went up another notch in my book.

27 posted on 09/02/2008 8:38:02 AM PDT by mnehring (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=26012226159&ref=mf)
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To: HoustonTech
LOL! I didn't know congressmen got to select VPs. When will Ron Paul admit that he has made himself a laughing stock to everyone except those who have no humour?

Just in case you missed it, Ron Paul was on the ballot in the early primaries, and got about 20% of the vote in North Dakota, where there was a 5 way split.

As a Presidential Candidate, certainly choosing a vice presidential candidate might have been within his purview.

28 posted on 09/02/2008 8:43:20 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Deb

Free Mojo, baby.


29 posted on 09/02/2008 8:51:48 AM PDT by jmc813 (Welcome to New York, Brett!)
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To: Hildy

Please note that the media that picks our presidents is owned in part by foreign governments and foreign corporations. We can thank Al Gore’s ‘reinventing’ government to allow foreign investment in what should be wholly domestic institutions with the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Foreign governments and foreign corporations do not care for the American Culture of Independence and individual rights(which includes representation for individuals in our government). Therefore they pick the candidates who promote the internationalist agenda— which gives us Obama the global citizen and McCain the king of Amnesty and corporate dominance in campaign finance.


30 posted on 09/02/2008 8:51:48 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: jmc813

And your point is?


31 posted on 09/02/2008 8:52:22 AM PDT by Ben Reyes
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To: jmc813

Amen!!


32 posted on 09/02/2008 8:57:49 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: mnehrling
"If the majority of the Paulbots can get off the whole Neocon/Zionist paranoia, Sarah Palin can be a reason to get back on board and realize you can change from the inside in a reasonable, effective way."

Well said, and deserves repeating.

33 posted on 09/02/2008 9:07:26 AM PDT by lormand ("If I were Putin, I would have done the same" - "Conservative" talk show host Mikhail Savage)
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To: jmc813

Palin, as an elected official, seems to have been good at saying nice things about republicans.

If it wasn’t for Paul’s incorrect views on the war, he’d be an OK guy who couldn’t get elected President.

I can say a lot of good things about Ron Paul. Doesn’t mean I’d vote for him.

Buchanon of course is psychotic as always. Palin humored him by wearing his button at his rally when he visited her town. She then worked for one of his opponents, Steve Forbes.

And she is a conservative, so of course she was happier with Romney than she was with McCain. But now that McCain is our nominee, she’ll be there with him, praising him for what is good about him, and pushing him more on drilling in ANWR and dropping the global warming nonsense.

We all know that for a conservative to be the VP pick, that conservative had to enthusiastically back the McCain presidency. It’s just how things are.


34 posted on 09/02/2008 9:16:48 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: jmc813

BTW< don’t ping the anti-Mitt people here, they will have a conniption fit, and their heads will explode trying to figure out how to blame Romney for Palin saying nice things about him.


35 posted on 09/02/2008 9:17:32 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
BTW< don’t ping the anti-Mitt people here

I'm an anti-Mitt person and I posted the stinkin' thing.

36 posted on 09/02/2008 9:25:47 AM PDT by jmc813 (Welcome to New York, Brett!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
If it wasn’t for Paul’s incorrect views on the war...

It isn't that he is against the war, it is why he is against it- the why that represents a fundamental difference between him and Conservatives. He is against it because he believes the US is not a force for good, but a force for evil. He is against it because he places the problems of the world at our footsteps- instead of the solutions being in democracy and freedom. He is against it because he doesn't believe our interests extend beyond our borders and we can just hole up and everything will be all right. He is against it because he doesn't believe we should honor our treaties.

37 posted on 09/02/2008 9:34:49 AM PDT by mnehring (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=26012226159&ref=mf)
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To: jmc813
"head-exploding"

No, the GOP is exploding.

38 posted on 09/02/2008 9:43:10 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: jmc813
Bump for some Tuesday morning head-exploding.

My head's just fine and it's not morning; it's almost 8 p.m. ;-)

39 posted on 09/02/2008 9:48:04 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: Smokin' Joe

You guys bring a ray of sunshine to my eyes. Thank God for a little comic relief. ;-)


40 posted on 09/02/2008 10:16:34 AM PDT by HoustonTech
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To: mnehrling
[Ron Paul] believes the US is not a force for good, but a force for evil.

And that is why Ron Paul will never be President of the USA. It is amazing why someone would even want to be the leader of "a force for evil." I can tell you something about Ron Paul's congressional district too: If they knew that he believed this, he wouldn't be in congress either.

For crying out loud! He's worse that Michell Obama. At least she's proud of America now. If I lived just a little further south, I'd be voting Democrat for the first time in my life, at least for congressman.

41 posted on 09/02/2008 10:23:49 AM PDT by HoustonTech
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Why is everything I’m saying taken out of context. I LOVE SARAH PALIN..I don’t get what’s going on here.


42 posted on 09/02/2008 10:24:05 AM PDT by Hildy ("We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.")
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To: Ben Ficklin
No, the GOP is exploding.

Who do you think would have been a better VP pick for McCain.

43 posted on 09/02/2008 10:27:10 AM PDT by jmc813 (Welcome to New York, Brett!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

There are some of us who are very upset about this change. Most of the self-proclaimed “pro-Israel” people promote policies that are not beneficial for the United States or Israel.


44 posted on 09/02/2008 10:42:54 AM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: jmc813

Now that the GOP has the Veep nominee who took on BIG OIL and kicked their butt, will the GOP change their traditional position and join the democrats and go after BIG OIL?


45 posted on 09/02/2008 10:47:51 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Who do you think would have been a better VP pick for McCain?

Now that the GOP has the Veep nominee who took on BIG OIL and kicked their butt, will the GOP change their traditional position and join the democrats and go after BIG OIL?

Way to answer a question with a completely unrelated question. Who do you think would have been a better VP pick for McCain?

46 posted on 09/02/2008 10:59:04 AM PDT by jmc813 (Welcome to New York, Brett!)
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To: jmc813
No, it is totally related.

The GOP has, for many years, been a coalition of economic elitists(BIG OIL) and cultural populists.

Now, the cultural populists and economic elitists are opposed. Palin(populist) is going after BIG OIL(elitist)

I'll give you another question and I'll answer it.

Do you know how McCain vetted Palin? He called James Dobson.

47 posted on 09/02/2008 11:42:35 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Awww, is yousum bitter? ... Yousum not read list of McCain’s staff researchers. Such a shame yousum so ignorant when yousum can read.


48 posted on 09/02/2008 11:47:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Have you seen the McCain campaign people on CNN defending Palin.

Every other phrase they use is "she took on BIG OIL". They sound like Shumer.

49 posted on 09/02/2008 11:55:11 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Do you know how McCain vetted Palin? He called James Dobson.

And if McCain called Ben Ficklin to get his opinion of the best possible Republican to run with, who would Ben Ficklin recommend? I'm starting to get the impression that you're a contrarian and would not be happy with anybody.

50 posted on 09/02/2008 11:57:15 AM PDT by jmc813 (Welcome to New York, Brett!)
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