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Top Dem Estrich: 30% of Clinton Backers Could Vote for McCain/Palin
BreitBart/Fox News ^ | September 3 | Staff

Posted on 09/03/2008 10:33:35 AM PDT by PghBaldy

"Many question Barack Obama's experience and are now recoiling a little bit at some of the tactics."

Video at link


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008rncconvention; democrats; democrats4mccain; electionpresident; elections; estrich; hillary; mccain; nobama08; obama; palin; puma; susanestrich
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It appears Susan has been reading lib blogs and is shocked and didsgusted. Good for her.
1 posted on 09/03/2008 10:33:36 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

If true, Obama is toast.


2 posted on 09/03/2008 10:36:25 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: PghBaldy

here’s a quote (after she discusses the rumors and smears against Palin- prenatal care, maternity of baby etc): “I find it really offensive.”


3 posted on 09/03/2008 10:37:01 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama is like a character played by Margaret DuMont.)
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To: PghBaldy

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Estrich has been recoiling in disgust at the attacks on both Sarah and her daughter. The other day Mara Liason snapped at Mort Kondracke for his attacks on the Palins in the FNC roundtable discussion.

Lots of Democrat-voting women are hopping mad about this.


4 posted on 09/03/2008 10:38:03 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies; Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: PghBaldy

I hope she’s correct...this one time. ;)


5 posted on 09/03/2008 10:38:06 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: PghBaldy
The ultra left are so stupid they don't realize they are driving many toward McCain/Palin with their attempt at degrading Palin with Palin’s personal life. Let them continue with it.
6 posted on 09/03/2008 10:41:56 AM PDT by kempo
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To: PghBaldy
I'm not sure 30% will vote for McCain but more like 7% which will far do Obama in and he knows it.
7 posted on 09/03/2008 10:43:53 AM PDT by tobyhill (fraud -noun;(1)deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, (2) Obama)
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To: snarkytart

I guess you’re referring to President Dukakis... Compared to some of the guests Fox invites, she is reasonably OK for a Dem. Obama has a few big problems: whites, Jews, old people and women. Other than that, he’s a shoo-in. STILL, I’m nervous as heck.


8 posted on 09/03/2008 10:44:23 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama is like a character played by Margaret DuMont.)
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To: kempo

They drove me away! I was a Bill Clinton voter and voted mostly for Democrats. After seeing how rabid the Democrat party has become and 9-11, I vote Republican.

Country First!


9 posted on 09/03/2008 10:44:38 AM PDT by MissyMa
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To: Mr. Mojo
The other day Mara Liason snapped at Mort Kondracke for his attacks on the Palins in the FNC roundtable discussion.

William Crystal was apoplectic.

10 posted on 09/03/2008 10:47:32 AM PDT by MJemison
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To: PghBaldy

Was going to start a vanity thread but I just turned off the TV in disgust as DNC hack (that’s a generous term) Jamal Simmons did his best parrot impersonation.

It’s a minute-by-minute logrolling contest now. The attacks on Palin have ALREADY backfired so the talking points have shifted back to McCain.

“McCain didn’t vet Palin” is the new mantra because it’s harder to disprove and it doesn’t directly target Palin (although obviously it casts disapproval on her).


11 posted on 09/03/2008 10:47:39 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Mr. Mojo
And the anarchists thought they were the only ones throwing feces.

It's pretty clear that the criticism is not for what she had done but for who she is. They really can't attack her record so they have to attack her person. I think public tolerance of this has it's limits and the liberals are just about to exceed them.

12 posted on 09/03/2008 10:48:16 AM PDT by tbpiper (Obama/Biden: Instead of Ebony and Ivory, we have Arrogance and Insolence.)
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To: PghBaldy
If Mac can get just a fraction of Hillarys supporters and a lot of independents, he'll win comfortably.
13 posted on 09/03/2008 10:48:17 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: PghBaldy

Sarah Palin is the “AMERICAN EVERYWOMAN” that Dems have been saying a women could and should be, for 40 YEARS...

What it REALLY boils down to is that the Cult Of Obama is a sham built by Media Celebrity.

And Palin THREATENS that Media Celebrity by becoming an even BIGGER celebrity herself. The “Black Guy” story is good, but NOTHING beside the Amelia Earheardt-type story of Gov. Palin. Obama knows that if that happens, this election is already OVER....


14 posted on 09/03/2008 10:49:33 AM PDT by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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To: PghBaldy

I think only about 10% of the Hillary voters are needed to result in a win for McCain/Palin. I don’t see 30% going that way. However, a lot of them might stay home, which is almost as good. Despite all the talk of Hill supports for McCain/Palin I have read on blogs and such, we have not seen that sort of shift in the polls yet. Maybe in a few days...


15 posted on 09/03/2008 10:52:25 AM PDT by txjeep
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To: PghBaldy
Clintonian duplicity at its finest. Hill and Bill praise Obambi to the skies at the DNC. Then, their minions reach for the long knives.

And this time we're not the target...

16 posted on 09/03/2008 10:53:16 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: PghBaldy

Go figure, Susan Estrich a voice of reason.
Life is full of surprises.


17 posted on 09/03/2008 10:55:04 AM PDT by donnab (don't blame me ...I supported Fred.)
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To: PghBaldy

I had SWAG’d a quarter of the Hildabeast’s supporters would end up voting Palin\McCain.

Looks like I might have been pretty close.


18 posted on 09/03/2008 10:56:32 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: Mr. Mojo; MJemison
I saw this exchange as well. Mort realized that he had gone over the top with his claim about the obvious failure of abstinence training in the Palin household. He looked like he wanted to slither away from the set as quickly and as quietly as possible in the face of withering criticism from both Mara and Bill. I don't think I have ever seen Kristol so angry.
19 posted on 09/03/2008 10:56:43 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: PghBaldy

If the Libs and the Obama campaign keep up their current attacks on Palin and her daughter, it could well be more than 30%.


20 posted on 09/03/2008 10:58:21 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Mr. Mojo

Man....when LIBS like Susan Estrich knows her fellow LIBS are VILE, they must be REALLY VILE!!


21 posted on 09/03/2008 11:00:53 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: kempo

It’s Wellstone Funeral take 2.

They always, always overplay their hands.


22 posted on 09/03/2008 11:01:44 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: PghBaldy

Holy smokes! I was just on Hillaryclintonforum.net and could not believe my eyes!

There seem to be a lot of women in America who have a rather low opinion of Mr. Obama, and admiration for McCain and placing a woman on the GOP ticket.

Could all of this be a ruse?


23 posted on 09/03/2008 11:02:08 AM PDT by RexBeach
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Angela McGlowan who is a black Republican was even being more bold. She thinks 50% will vote McCain.


24 posted on 09/03/2008 11:03:16 AM PDT by KavMan
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To: donnab
Go figure, Susan Estrich a voice of reason.

I'd bet it's not for righteous reasons but because she realizes the blowback is going to sink the RATS.

25 posted on 09/03/2008 11:03:19 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: kempo
The ultra left are so stupid they don't realize they are driving many toward McCain/Palin with their attempt at degrading Palin with Palin’s personal life. Let them continue with it.

Sort of. It's more like that old saw:

When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

All they have is the politics of personal destruction.

Sarah looks like a nail.

26 posted on 09/03/2008 11:03:44 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: MissyMa

They drove me away! I was a Bill Clinton voter and voted mostly for Democrats. After seeing how rabid the Democrat party has become and 9-11, I vote Republican.

Country First!


We both share something in common.

Republicans +2
Democrats -2


27 posted on 09/03/2008 11:04:42 AM PDT by eaglestar
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Anyone know why you can’t register at Hillaryclintonforum.net? or can ask the admin there?

i want to participate... =(


28 posted on 09/03/2008 11:04:56 AM PDT by KavMan
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To: MissyMa

Welcome to the light side.

(We have cookies too!)


29 posted on 09/03/2008 11:04:57 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: PghBaldy

Could?

I Garr-an-tee it.

Supporters of the shit-heel hillbilly will definitely vote for McCain, just so she and her jerk-off husband can run against Johnny Mac in 2012.

We haven’t seen the end of that loathesome duo, not by a long shot.

If someone gets me a wooden stake, I’ll swing the hammer to drive that evil thing back to the land of the dead.


30 posted on 09/03/2008 11:06:58 AM PDT by Santiago de la Vega (El hijo del Zorro)
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To: kempo
The ultra left are so stupid they don't realize they are driving many toward McCain/Palin with their attempt at degrading Palin with Palin’s personal life. Let them continue with it.

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. - Napoleon Bonaparte

31 posted on 09/03/2008 11:08:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: null and void

Welcome to the light side.

(We have cookies too!)

Our cookies don’t have herb in them either.


32 posted on 09/03/2008 11:08:48 AM PDT by listenhillary (Why are many feminists not feminine? I think they should give the word back.)
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To: AmericaUnited
They always, always overplay their hands.

The Devil is said to always do that.

33 posted on 09/03/2008 11:09:31 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: eaglestar

Want a cookie?


34 posted on 09/03/2008 11:11:00 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: PghBaldy

The Kos wing of the Democrat party has crossed a line for anyone with with even a modest sense of right vs wrong. Yes, some of them like Susan may want Hill to run again in ‘12 and that might be a consideration. But they also went through this just recently in their own primary. Only then it was just Hillary (mostly) taking the beating. Now kids have been dragged into it. It’s repulsive.


35 posted on 09/03/2008 11:11:49 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: centurion316

It is true, and that’s why he has his minions on overtime and hyper attack.

18 Million people voted for Clinton, and MANY were not liberal women, but just women voting for a woman. (Identity Politics) Palin sucks those rejected voters right into the McCain/Palin ticket.

Long and short of it, the Democratic Party’s decade old practice of playing and encouraging identity politics is getting ready to bite them in the butt. Not only this, but the uglier the Fauxbama camp and their hounds in the MSM go after Palin, the more women will vote for her, and the more middle america will be turned off from Fauxbama.

This hyperattack and sleaze is going to backfire so bad on Fauxbama, not suprising, he’s used to Chicago politics, and he’s completely outside his element now, and these sorts of actions won’t fly. The MSM has lost any credibility at “objectivity”... Lets face it... Edwards has an affair and a love child and the press ignore it, but Palin’s daughter is pregnant, and they can’t wait to humiliate a 17 year old girl to get at the Republican?

The credibility factor in this election of the MSM is gone, they have shown themselves without any question to basically be the attack dogs of Fauxbama and the democrats.. let em keep it up.. its long past time for another landslide and rejection of the democratic party and the saul alinsky political playbook.


36 posted on 09/03/2008 11:12:28 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: DesScorp
If Mac can get just a fraction of Hillarys supporters and a lot of independents, he'll win comfortably.

If Mac can get a bigger percentage of Republicans to SHOW UP AND VOTE in November, then he will win easily even if he does not get a single crossover vote from Hillary's people

And Sarah is tailer-made to get more people to take the time to show up and vote. That's what Obama's minions are afraid of. They are afraid of Republicans being given a reason to show up at the polls on election day. And, I'll be honest with you, McCain hadn't been giving me that big a reason prior to the Palin pick.

37 posted on 09/03/2008 11:12:30 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: riverdawg
I don't think I have ever seen Kristol so angry.

I thought he was going to reach across the table. (And now I know how to spell Kristol.

38 posted on 09/03/2008 11:14:54 AM PDT by MJemison
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To: txjeep
I think only about 10% of the Hillary voters are needed to result in a win for McCain/Palin. I don’t see 30% going that way. However, a lot of them might stay home, which is almost as good.

No, having them stay home is better. If they show up and vote for Palin, they will then likely vote Dem for the rest of the ballot. If they stay home, that helps us in all the other 2008 races.

39 posted on 09/03/2008 11:17:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: Santiago de la Vega

Agree and applause!


40 posted on 09/03/2008 11:18:18 AM PDT by Naplm
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To: PghBaldy

I think she asked Greta why her husband has jumped the ship and gone over to Mccain.


41 posted on 09/03/2008 11:22:20 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: null and void
Ha! Thanks, I have been over at the light side for quite some time, I just lurk. I spent 18 hours here straight during the 2004 elections. I was too chicken to get the election results on TV so I stayed on the Freep thread and wouldn't go to the television until they called Ohio for Bush and the Freepers announced it.

I have a feeling I may be doing that again this year!!

42 posted on 09/03/2008 11:23:04 AM PDT by MissyMa
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To: PghBaldy

Susan is waaaaaaaay behind the times.

Strategic Vision Pollster Predicted Palin VP Pick last year
newxmax ^ http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Pollster_Predicted_Palin_/2008/08/30/126415.html?utm_medium=RSS

David E. Johnson, CEO of Strategic Vision, LLC accurately predicted the presidential nomination of Arizona Senator John McCain in 2007 on POTUS Radio when all political experts had written McCain’s obituary.

Johnson also predicted that Alaska Governor Sarah Palin would be McCain’s running mate in March 2007.

Johnson reiterated that Palin would be the candidate following Barack Obama’s selection of Joseph Biden as his running mate.

Johnson based his predictions upon polling done by Strategic Vision, LLC in key battleground states and his own political expertise of over twenty years.

“Based upon our polling in key battleground states in 2007 and early 2008, all indicators pointed to John McCain as the only plausible Republican presidential nominee,” said David E. Johnson, CEO of Strategic Vision, LLC. “Our polling showed that McCain was the second choice of the other candidate’s supporters particularly in Florida which really made McCain’s nomination possible.

Our polling in 2008 have shown that Barack Obama underperforms among female voters particularly in the states of Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin that provides an opening for Senator McCain,” continued Johnson.

“Additionally, John McCain has a unique opportunity to present the future of the Republican Party in his vice presidential selection.

All of this indicated a strong dedicated conservative that would be outside of the box and Sarah Palin headed that list along with her appeal to social and fiscal conservatives and her moving life story.

Strategic Vision polling in the key battleground states of Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, and non-traditional battleground states such as New Jersey indicate that 25% to 35% of Hillary Clinton supporters will not vote for Barack Obama and might consider voting for John McCain based upon his running mate.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


43 posted on 09/03/2008 11:25:35 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (2008 = The Year of the Toilet (for 'RATS) because of Operation Chaos.)
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To: HamiltonJay
Fauxbama

Good one. I think I'll use that in spoken conversation as an excellent counter point to zerObama in print.

Nice double pun as he's both a Foe and a Faux...

44 posted on 09/03/2008 11:25:43 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: HamiltonJay
.. Lets face it... Edwards has an affair and a love child and the press ignore it, but Palin’s daughter is pregnant, and they can’t wait to humiliate a 17 year old girl to get at the Republican?

Edwards??? zerObama is a 'love child' too. His parents didn't marry (if they did at all-no records) until Stanley Ann was 3 months preggers.

45 posted on 09/03/2008 11:29:00 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: PapaBear3625
And, I'll be honest with you, McCain hadn't been giving me that big a reason prior to the Palin pick.

Nor I. I've made no secret of it either.

46 posted on 09/03/2008 11:30:34 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: PghBaldy
Liberal women are right to be appalled at how Palin and her family have been treated. They know that this could be any of them should they ever criticize their "friends" in the Democrat party.

The fact is that the DNC gets really hot and bothered when its captive constituencies show a little philosophical independence.
47 posted on 09/03/2008 11:34:03 AM PDT by Antoninus (McCain/Palin -- The winning ticket!)
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To: null and void
Sarah looks like a nail.

From the Coincidental Palindrome Department:

SARAH PALIN = A SHARP NAIL

48 posted on 09/03/2008 11:38:31 AM PDT by Petronski (The Vice Presidency is below Sarah Palin's paygrade.)
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To: PghBaldy
Our Magic Numbers for victory in November are roughly:

92% GOP
18% RAT
45% Indie

Those are tough targets to hit, but I think Palin gives us a decent chance of doing it. That is the reason the MSM is so frenzied in their attacks.

49 posted on 09/03/2008 11:41:16 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: Petronski
NAILED IT!
50 posted on 09/03/2008 11:43:58 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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