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Sheriff's investigation: Anarchists discussed kidnapping (RNC) delegates
St Paul ^

Posted on 09/03/2008 12:22:17 PM PDT by MplsSteve

A year ago, the Ramsey County sheriff's office began looking closely at a group called the Republican National Convention Welcoming Committee.

What it found, according to an 18-page search warrant application and affidavit, led to weekend raids on two Minneapolis homes and a temporary St. Paul office for the self-described anarchist group.

According to the document, investigation learned:

The self-described anarchist group — whose main goal was to "crash" the Republican National Convention," according to its Web site — traveled to or communicated with affinity groups in 67 cities to recruit members and raise money.

Group members discussed the possibility of kidnapping delegates, blockading bridges, using liquid sprayers filled with urine or chemicals on police and throwing marbles to trip police and their horses.

At an "action camp" held from July 31 to Aug. 3 in Lake Geneva, Minn., one member talked of concealing inside giant puppets "materials" that could be used on the street. Others discussed the need for Molotov cocktails, paint, caltrops (devices used to puncture tires), bricks and lockboxes for protesters to lock themselves together.

Erik Oseland, one of the six group members arrested here, produced a video called "Video Map of the St. Paul Points of Interest." It included such major companies as Travelers Insurance and Qwest, hotels such as the Embassy Suites and the Crowne Plaza. Also included: the Pioneer Press building.

The main sources for the information were "regular surveillance" of the group and three people who posed as members — two informants and an undercover investigator. The informants monitored e-mails and conversations.

Geneva Finn of the National Lawyers Guild, which represents many of those arrested, said it was hard for her to weigh the evidence in the affidavit because "it's all based on the testimony of people who are not identified, and that's a real problem."

Police and the Sheriff's Department characterized the anarchists as troublemakers who had come from other cities and states to disrupt the convention.

"Yesterday, there was a group of people, not the protesters ... but a group of criminals who came here with a very express goal and intent," St. Paul Police Chief John Harrington said Tuesday. "They came here to try to stop the convention, to crash the gates, to stop the buses and the delegates. ... They failed"


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: amybingoodman; amygoodman; antiamericanism; brownshirts; civilwar2; civilwarii; conspiracy; criminalconspiracy; cultureofcorruption; democracynow; democratscandals; dncbrownshirts; electionviolence; fbiinvestigation; feclaws; genevafinn; goodman; hostages; howtostealanelection; intimidation; kidnapping; kidnappingplot; moonbats; nationallawyersguild; notapeacemovement; ratcrime; rncconvention; stalinisttactics; stpaul2008; terrorism; unamerican; voterintimidation
As many of you know, locla law enforcement conducted a series of raids against residences where known anarchists were staying. These raids resulted in a series of arrests and the confiscation of a lot of materials used to disrupt the convention as well as possibly injure/kill delegates.

I think that many of you ought there ought to read the entire article and then forward it on to anyone who thinks that the raids were a "police over-reaction".

Comments or opinions - anyone?

1 posted on 09/03/2008 12:22:18 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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2 posted on 09/03/2008 12:24:39 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

“They came here to try to stop the convention, to crash the gates, to stop the buses and the delegates. ... They failed”

Sounds like they came to stop democracy.


3 posted on 09/03/2008 12:24:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: MplsSteve

If you read DU (and can stand the slime) all of the people protesting are peaceful and we have nothing more than a police state.

People in this country need to wake up to the “agents of change” within the current democratic party.

Scary times indeed for the future of our Republic.


4 posted on 09/03/2008 12:26:21 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: MplsSteve

I have a feeling this election cycle is going to become very nasty, in a physical way. The extreme left seem to be saying they are going to win this election, even if it is by coup or civil war.


5 posted on 09/03/2008 12:29:42 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: driftdiver

It is and has been the UnDemocratIC Party.


6 posted on 09/03/2008 12:29:56 PM PDT by weegee ("We now know far more about Sarah Palin in just 4days than we've learned about B.Obama in 17 months")
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To: MplsSteve

St Paul Police Chief said they failed. They have not failed unless they get long jail sentences and all their assets are confiscated to pay for the damage.


7 posted on 09/03/2008 12:30:25 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: MplsSteve

Anarchists are domestic terrorists, and as such should be dealt with accordingly. Terrorists do not have rights beyond not being pummeled beyond recognition. Round them up, detain them, and prosecute, prosecute, prosecute!


8 posted on 09/03/2008 12:30:51 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Yogafist

The Left has been waging a hot war for 40 years and a cold war for 90 years. It is time for the government to put down the seditious socialist left. Their tactics and goals are incompatible with our Constitutional form of government.


9 posted on 09/03/2008 12:31:38 PM PDT by weegee ("We now know far more about Sarah Palin in just 4days than we've learned about B.Obama in 17 months")
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To: MplsSteve

I definitely agree with you.

The Democrats got a little rough back in ‘04 - but this time, they seem really pumped up.


10 posted on 09/03/2008 12:32:01 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Logical me

RE: “St Paul Police Chief said they failed. They have not failed unless they get long jail sentences and all their assets are confiscated to pay for the damage.”

Agree with you but... it’s doubtful these jerks have any “assets” to confiscate!


11 posted on 09/03/2008 12:32:36 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: Logical me

Correction:

They have not failed unless they get long jail sentences and all their assets are confiscated to pay for the damage.

They have failed unless they get long jail sentences and all their assets are confiscated to pay for the damage.


12 posted on 09/03/2008 12:32:44 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: oneamericanvoice

Treason is not protected speech. It is a crime as defined by our constitition.

The FEC prohibits intimidation of voters. In addition to “kidnapping” charges, interstate conspiracy, etc. there are numerous crimes they can be charged with. And use RICO to defund the Left as has been done with everyone from pro-life groups to the KKK. Why should anarchist-socialist fascists have their assets protected? Fascism was a movement of the Left.


13 posted on 09/03/2008 12:34:14 PM PDT by weegee ("We now know far more about Sarah Palin in just 4days than we've learned about B.Obama in 17 months")
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To: MplsSteve
Issue the delegates concealed carry permits and some firearms and it could be interesting.
14 posted on 09/03/2008 12:34:42 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Yogafist

As a conservative activist, I can tell you that the last two elections have been very nasty, & this one is shaping up to be more of the same. The extreme Left has been making pronouncements of “coup” and “civil war” (funny that they should call anything “civil”) for years. It is just another scare tactic. However, are you ready to stand for your country if they decide to take physical action?


15 posted on 09/03/2008 12:35:32 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Logical me

And we can follow the money trail to who is funding them.


16 posted on 09/03/2008 12:40:21 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (Drill here, drill now!!!!!)
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To: oneamericanvoice

If the Left wants a war, they engage in such a battle as seditous criminals. Call out the National Guard and leave the rubber bullets at home.

Don’t engage in a vigilante action, let the US military do their job of defending the homeland against aggressors foreign and domestic. It is not a police action for local agencies, it is a bigger job.

Put down the insurgency by sheer force.


17 posted on 09/03/2008 12:42:15 PM PDT by weegee ("We now know far more about Sarah Palin in just 4days than we've learned about B.Obama in 17 months")
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To: oneamericanvoice

And yes I agree that election violence and the actions of dnc brownshirts was the single most underreported story of the 2004 election.

It was treated as strictly a “local” vandalism story. Rocks through windows, tires slashed on election day, arson, power outages, assaults, threats, swastikas...

I discussed some of it in this wrap up thread on the 2004 election.

Jim Emerson: On celebrities, Politics, and movie critics (shilling for Roger Ebert) (with lengthy response from me)
Chicago Sun Times ^ | October 14, 2004 | Jim Emerson, Editor of RogerEbert.com
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 6:59:04 PM by weegee
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1273094/posts


18 posted on 09/03/2008 12:45:18 PM PDT by weegee ("We now know far more about Sarah Palin in just 4days than we've learned about B.Obama in 17 months")
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To: oneamericanvoice

Don’t forget that John Kerry’s anti vietnam war group plotted to assassinate elected members of Congress. And the pregnancy of Palin’s daughter is the “bigger” scandal.

The MSM makes me puke they are so in the tank for socialist terrorists.


19 posted on 09/03/2008 12:46:53 PM PDT by weegee ("We now know far more about Sarah Palin in just 4days than we've learned about B.Obama in 17 months")
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To: MplsSteve
I want the police to release the voter registration information on the arrested suspects.

I'll bet it's Vegas odds that the majority of the criminals are registered democrats.

20 posted on 09/03/2008 12:49:12 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: weegee

The libs are already using the threat of race riots to blackmail America into electing Obama.


21 posted on 09/03/2008 12:49:59 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: weegee
These democrats are bordering on terrorism.

It's a good thing that many Americans know how to defend themselves with a handgun.

22 posted on 09/03/2008 12:50:56 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Yogafist
I have a feeling this election cycle is going to become very nasty, in a physical way. The extreme left seem to be saying they are going to win this election, even if it is by coup or civil war.

We've had this discussion on my blog as well. Did you happen to catch this commentary from Fatima Ali?

Fatimah Ali: We need Obama, not 4 more years of George Bush

Excerpt from Ms. Ali's commentary:

If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!

If this scenario were to occur, we'd best be ready to stomp it down hard! I think that you're spot-on in your speculation and we need to keep our heads down and our powder dry!

23 posted on 09/03/2008 12:51:07 PM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com)
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To: MplsSteve
Group members discussed the possibility of kidnapping delegates, blockading bridges, using liquid sprayers filled with urine or chemicals on police and throwing marbles to trip police and their horses. At an "action camp" held from July 31 to Aug. 3 in Lake Geneva, Minn., one member talked of concealing inside giant puppets "materials" that could be used on the street. Others discussed the need for Molotov cocktails, paint, caltrops (devices used to puncture tires), bricks and lockboxes for protesters to lock themselves together.

Never bring urine, chemicals, marbles, molotov cocktails, paint, caltrops, or bricks to a gun fight.

Lockboxes to lock yourselves together is ok as it is harder for us to hit a moving target.

24 posted on 09/03/2008 1:14:25 PM PDT by lowbridge ("I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it" - Van Den Boogaard)
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To: MplsSteve

Comments or opinions - anyone?
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Stop playing softball with these criminals. Treat them like criminals, jail them like criminals and prosecute them as criminals. Go for felony convictions and don’t let them out early once the political climate softens as so often happens.


25 posted on 09/03/2008 1:43:43 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: oneamericanvoice

You better believe it.


26 posted on 09/03/2008 1:46:42 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Callahan

The libs are already using the threat of race riots to blackmail America into electing Obama.
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The end result of riots will be democratic controlled cities (dem base) being destroyed. So what is the concern?


27 posted on 09/03/2008 1:50:47 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Prole
These democrats are bordering on terrorism.

They crossed that a border long time ago,and when these people talk about kidnapping and harming delgates. it's time to break out ma duce

28 posted on 09/03/2008 2:01:02 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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