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Viva la Evolution?
CreationOnTheWeb ^ | September 3, 2008 | David Anderson

Posted on 09/03/2008 3:47:09 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Darwinism is ultimately the creation story of naturalism and atheism...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: cmhamanhasspoken; creation; crevo; darwin; evolution; intelligentdesign
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1 posted on 09/03/2008 3:47:09 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

evolutionists are not gonna like Palin :)


2 posted on 09/03/2008 3:48:42 PM PDT by ari-freedom (You better think think about what you're trying to do to me)
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To: GodGunsGuts

You should have posted this in Breaking News.


3 posted on 09/03/2008 3:48:49 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: DaveLoneRanger; metmom; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; MrB; GourmetDan; editor-surveyor; tpanther; ...

ping :o)


4 posted on 09/03/2008 3:49:35 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: elkfersupper
You should have posted this in Breaking News.

It belongs in the Religion Forum. There is no Breaking News nor even News/Activism here.

5 posted on 09/03/2008 3:55:05 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: ari-freedom

==evolutionists are not gonna like Palin

I am convinced that this is one of the chief reasons why fearful Temple of Darwin fanatics are pulling out all the stops in their effort to detroy her. However, if she is a strong Christian, her strength will increase in direct proportion to the amount of pressure they put on her. Viva la Palin Revolution!


6 posted on 09/03/2008 4:00:12 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: ari-freedom; GodGunsGuts; Coyoteman

//evolutionists are not gonna like Palin//

Maybe not, but some might still vote for her and the McCain/Palin ticket


7 posted on 09/03/2008 4:07:38 PM PDT by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008!!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Darwinism is ultimately the creation story of naturalism and atheism...”

Creationism, the dark side of conservatism ...


8 posted on 09/03/2008 4:16:17 PM PDT by George - the Other ("Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent" - G. Orwell)
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To: Coyoteman; valkyry1; ari-freedom

That’s a fascinating question, Valkyry1! I think we should ask Coyoteman directly....

Hey Wiley, will you be able to vote for the Republican ticket knowing McCain’s #2 does not share your Darwinian religion?


9 posted on 09/03/2008 4:20:40 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: ari-freedom
evolutionists are not gonna like Palin :)

From what I've heard, no. On the plus side, as vice president she has no say over education so she can't screw the science requirements up with creationist nonsense.

10 posted on 09/03/2008 4:20:43 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: George - the Other

Darwinism: the religion that turns conservative morality on its head. Isaiah 5:20


11 posted on 09/03/2008 4:30:34 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

The fact that Palins’ and my personal beliefs might not coincide are irrelevant. She is currently the best thing standing in this mockery of an election.


12 posted on 09/03/2008 4:34:37 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Here’s the deal;

“Darwinism: the religion that turns conservative morality on its head. Isaiah 5:20”

First of all, you need to stop lying. Evolution, that is, Darwin’s Theory of Natural Selection (If you start to use the correct terms, people are less likely to perceive you as a dullard). It’s based on empiricism. If you don’t know what that, look it up and learn something.

Second, there are those who insist, despite all the scientific evidence to the contrary, that God created the universe in seven days and now spends the rest of eternity sitting on his holy ass doing nothing.

My God is still alive, still vibrant, still creating. One of the ways in which we see the continuing manifestation of His power, glory, and intellect is by evolution.

Third, God created everything in the universe including the laws of physics. It is through the process of radiometric dating and the science of stratigraphy that geologists and paleontologists have been able to discern how our planet has evolved through time. This is all based on physics - Gods laws that govern the universe.

To deny evolution is to deny the existence of God.

Do have a nice day.


13 posted on 09/03/2008 4:43:43 PM PDT by George - the Other ("Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent" - G. Orwell)
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To: Non-Sequitur

==she can’t screw the science requirements up with creationist nonsense.

That’s a laugh! Your leftist, activist, co-religionists in the ACLU (and on the bench) installed Darwin’s creation myth in our public schools by judicial fiat, and then mandated that your religion be called “science.” But no matter. As more and more people wake up to the bait and switch perpetrated by your fellow Temple of Darwin fanatics, it is only a matter of time before your atheology will be banned from our public schools and confined to places of Darwin worship.


14 posted on 09/03/2008 5:00:50 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: George - the Other

Sorry, pal. Darwinism is a religion. It is believed on faith. And it does not belong in our public schools. If you want to worship Darwin’s Natural Selection god, or otherwise venerate Darwin as its prophet, then you should do so in your own houses of worship, or in home studies where you are free to study The Origin of Species to your heart’s content.


15 posted on 09/03/2008 5:09:40 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Go soak your head.


16 posted on 09/03/2008 5:19:40 PM PDT by George - the Other ("Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent" - G. Orwell)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Hey Wiley, will you be able to vote for the Republican ticket knowing McCain’s #2 does not share your Darwinian religion?

Absolutely.

And the theory of evolution is not a religion, no matter how many times you flat-out lie that it is.

And conservatism does not equate to anti-science and anti-reason, as you seem to think it does. Nor does it hold with those who would overthrow the constitution to impost a theocracy.

17 posted on 09/03/2008 5:20:55 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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==And the theory of evolution is not a religion, no matter how many times you flat-out lie that it is.

Why are you guys so ashamed of your religion? I think it’s high-time you two came out of the closet like your co-religionist, Richard Dawkins:

“I believe, but I cannot prove, that all life, all intelligence, all creativity and all ‘design’ anywhere in the universe, is the direct or indirect product of Darwinian natural selection.”

—Richard Dawkins, New York Times, 2005


18 posted on 09/03/2008 5:34:19 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Darwinism is ultimately the creation story of naturalism and atheism...

Creationism is ultimately the religious story of science (made up) and research (none).

There, fixed it.


19 posted on 09/03/2008 5:41:30 PM PDT by saganite (Obama is a political STD)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Keep posting your nonsense. The more you post the sillier you look, and the fewer folks (except maybe here on FR) who will want anything to do with you.

Extremists such as yourself are their own worst enemies. You need no help from me to make yourself into a laughingstock. You're doing a great job on your own!

20 posted on 09/03/2008 5:42:57 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Why are you guys so ashamed of your religion?”

Why are you so proud of your ignorance?


21 posted on 09/03/2008 5:43:42 PM PDT by George - the Other ("Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent" - G. Orwell)
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To: Coyoteman; GodGunsGuts

CM, you are the religious fanatic.

The Evos hatred of creationists is simply a reflection of their hatred and fear of all thing righteous, including their hatred of God and not being able to destroy him.


22 posted on 09/03/2008 5:54:14 PM PDT by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008!!)
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CM, you are the religious fanatic.

The Evos hatred of creationists is simply a reflection of their hatred and fear of all thing righteous, including their hatred of God and not being able to destroy him.


24 posted on 09/03/2008 6:12:06 PM PDT by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008!!)
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To: Coyoteman; GodGunsGuts

Palin is a Christian and a creationist. She believes that creation and evolution should be taught in the public schools.

Whatever happened to the hysteria about that dreaded theocracy all those Christian creationists were trying to impose on the country?


26 posted on 09/03/2008 6:43:33 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: valkyry1

well they do like to pretend they’re otherwise conservatives.


27 posted on 09/03/2008 7:02:41 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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To: George - the Other

Godless liberal darwinism will never be accepted as conservative.

Not on this planet.


28 posted on 09/03/2008 7:06:37 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thank you David Anderson!

Anyone who professes to believe evolution has no legitimate claim of belief in God. Evolution would make God a liar, but a thorough examination of the Bible shows them to be fools.


29 posted on 09/03/2008 7:07:36 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( If Obama had Palin's resume and experience Obama would be qualified to be VP too.)
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To: Coyoteman
It belongs in the Religion Forum. There is no Breaking News nor even News/Activism here.

I was being facetious.

30 posted on 09/03/2008 7:46:52 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: tpanther

“Godless liberal darwinism will never be accepted as conservative ... Not on this planet.”

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt.


31 posted on 09/03/2008 7:50:43 PM PDT by George - the Other ("Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent" - G. Orwell)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Evolution would make God a liar, but a thorough examination of the Bible shows them to be fools.”

Hey, you wanna be stupid. It’s your life. See what I care.


32 posted on 09/03/2008 7:52:56 PM PDT by George - the Other ("Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent" - G. Orwell)
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To: Non-Sequitur; metmom; GodGunsGuts; valkyry1

But like other godless liberals put on notice, when it comes to abortion on demand and the lies of separation of church and state lunacies by censoring and silencing Christians in public, the days of godless liberalism are numbered everywhere, including science class and primary education, which is not solely owned by atheists.

She’ll be but one albeit strong voice for American Christians of this great country.


33 posted on 09/03/2008 8:04:11 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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To: George - the Other

If you’re sleepy, you might want a glimpse of your new vice president!

EYE OPENING!

and jaw dropping.


34 posted on 09/03/2008 8:09:59 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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To: George - the Other
My God is still alive, still vibrant, still creating.

Your "god" is not the God of the Bible, but rather one of your own creation.

Genesis 1:1-21.Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Exodus 21:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

You are welcome to believe in any god you imagine, but don't try to pass it off as The God of the Bible.

BTW, Jesus, creator of all things, is "sitting" in heaven, Hebrews 12:Hebrews 12:2 Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

35 posted on 09/03/2008 8:26:37 PM PDT by jimmyray
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To: jimmyray

“Your “god” is not the God of the Bible, but rather one of your own creation.”

Your really quite the boor, aren’t you!

Actually, you are the phony. You spout all that self-righteous baloney about “7 days,” but you cannot, no matter how bloated your ego is, read the mind of God. No one knows who long those 7 days really were. I

t’s too bad there’s no such thing as a time machine. You could take a ride back in time and get off and live in the barbaric Dark Ages where you belong.


36 posted on 09/03/2008 9:03:18 PM PDT by George - the Other ("Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent" - G. Orwell)
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To: George - the Other
Your really quite the boor, aren’t you! Actually, you are the phony. You spout all that self-righteous baloney about “7 days,” but you cannot, no matter how bloated your ego is, read the mind of God. No one knows who long those 7 days really were. I t’s too bad there’s no such thing as a time machine. You could take a ride back in time and get off and live in the barbaric Dark Ages where you belong.

Ad hominem attacks prove the weakness of your position.

Genesis 1, when referring to the days of creation, reads "And the evening and the morning were the first day." This pattern is repeated for the next 5 days. A simple, contextual reading, suggests these are 24 hour days. Your are somewhat correct in asserting that the Hebrew word "yom" can have different meanings, based on the context. However, everytime the OT uses the term "yom" with a number, it always refers to a literal 24 hour day. This is repeated in the pattern offered in Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Your position is weak, and is not formed by referring to biblical references, but rather the evolutionary beliefs, from whence you superimpose anything other that a 24 hour day. I post this not to convince you, for your mind is made up, and not fact, evidence, or proper hemenuetical understanding of the scripture will change that. Rather, it is written for those who would follow the baseless assertion of the age-day interpretation of the Genesis account.

For your further edification, a boor is defined as "1. A person with rude, clumsy manners and little refinement."
Another definition that might be of some use is "psychological projection" which" is a defense mechanism in which one attributes one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions to others."

37 posted on 09/03/2008 9:59:07 PM PDT by jimmyray
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To: George - the Other
but you cannot, no matter how bloated your ego is, read the mind of God.

Oddly enough, I don't recall ever making this claim. I am simply reading the book that He inspired and preserved, and am taking it a face value.

38 posted on 09/03/2008 10:02:12 PM PDT by jimmyray
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To: George - the Other
"Hey, you wanna be stupid."

No, you can keep all your stupidity; it fits you well.

39 posted on 09/03/2008 10:10:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( If Obama had Palin's resume and experience Obama would be qualified to be VP too.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

her father is a science teacher so she will give a well informed response if questioned during a debate, and not some cheapshot zinger.


40 posted on 09/03/2008 11:04:12 PM PDT by ari-freedom (You better think think about what you're trying to do to me)
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To: Non-Sequitur

After that speech tonight, she will have a lot to say about a great many things. :)

She wants both evolution and creation taught in the schools and not one or the other.


41 posted on 09/03/2008 11:08:27 PM PDT by ari-freedom (You better think think about what you're trying to do to me)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Your leftist, activist, co-religionists in the ACLU (and on the bench) installed Darwin’s creation myth in our public schools by judicial fiat, and then mandated that your religion be called “science.”

I suppose they did the same with atronomy, meteorology, physiscs, and all those other 'Godless sciences' that dare conflict with the Bible?

As more and more people wake up to the bait and switch perpetrated by your fellow Temple of Darwin fanatics, it is only a matter of time before your atheology will be banned from our public schools and confined to places of Darwin worship.

Then you can burn the books and reintroduce alchemy. Won't that be a fine day for education?

42 posted on 09/04/2008 4:00:29 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: GodGunsGuts
Hey Wiley, will you be able to vote for the Republican ticket knowing McCain’s #2 does not share your Darwinian religion?

So then if McCain came down on the side of Evolution, and Obama supported creationism then you'd be out there voting for Obama?

43 posted on 09/04/2008 4:02:31 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: GodGunsGuts
Fantastic and accurate article. It's good to see people sticking up for God's Creation, unlike the evolutionists who seek to destroy the power of God. The Theory of Evolution has been totally demolished by science - which has come to no surprise to those of us who have always believed in the Word of God - from the very FIRST WORD to the very LAST WORD.

It should be a clue that the points and evidence supporting Creationism stand individually, independently, simply and concisely, while the so-called "evidence" supporting evolution is hopelessly complicated and intertwined in circular reasoning, no doubt in an attempt to distract people from the fact that 'the Emperor has no clothes'.

The Lord is not the author of confusion. (1 Cor 14:33) If only 'scientists' would rely on the infallible Word in lieu of their own 'wisdom', it would save them the embarrassment they are experiencing now.

44 posted on 09/04/2008 5:34:58 AM PDT by WondrousCreation ((long time lurker))
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To: WondrousCreation
The Theory of Evolution has been totally demolished by science...

That is a creationist talking point, and an outright lie. You should be ashamed to lie so blatantly.

...the so-called "evidence" supporting evolution is hopelessly complicated and intertwined in circular reasoning, no doubt in an attempt to distract people from the fact that 'the Emperor has no clothes'.

Another creationist talking point. And another lie.

If only 'scientists' would rely on the infallible Word in lieu of their own 'wisdom', it would save them the embarrassment they are experiencing now.

They would not then be doing science, but religious apologetics. Much as you are doing.

Remember, this was tried. They called it the Dark Ages.

45 posted on 09/04/2008 8:32:15 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
"They would not then be doing science, but religious apologetics. Much as you are doing."

Science is based on the philosophy of naturalism and evolution is nothing more that just-so storytelling, or 'naturalistic apologetics'.

"Remember, this was tried. They called it the Dark Ages."

Use of the logical fallacy of Appeal to Consequences of a Belief as support for evolution/naturalism is noted.

46 posted on 09/04/2008 1:52:23 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
"Then you can burn the books and reintroduce alchemy. Won't that be a fine day for education?"

Consistent use of the logical fallacy of Appeal to Consequences of a Belief as support for evolution/naturalism among naturalists is noted.

47 posted on 09/04/2008 1:55:10 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan

Whether is a valid claim not withstanding, it’s at least a relief to see someone on theology side of the debate with a grasp of logical fallacy that extends beyond everthing they disagree with being a “stawman” or “elephant hurling”.


48 posted on 09/04/2008 2:02:51 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic; GodGunsGuts; valkyry1; metmom
"Whether is a valid claim not withstanding, it’s at least a relief to see someone on theology side of the debate with a grasp of logical fallacy that extends beyond everthing they disagree with being a “stawman” or “elephant hurling”."

It is always interesting to see what irrational contortions the naturalists will go through to undermine a valid argument and twist a weakness in their position into an insult against their rivals.

Simply amazing.

49 posted on 09/04/2008 5:36:20 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan

It’s interesting to see how the militant theologists try to turn vain pride in their own faith into some kind of virtue and elevate it to the status of self-evident truth.


50 posted on 09/05/2008 2:46:09 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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