Posted on 09/04/2008 11:19:21 AM PDT by joinedafterattack
"To buttress his assertions of sincerity and openness, Mr. Biden released a 65-page file, obtained by the Senator from the Syracuse University College of Law, that he said contained all the records of his years there. It disclosed relatively poor grades in college and law school, mixed evaluations from teachers and details of the plagiarism."
(Excerpt) Read more at query.nytimes.com ...
All part of the Obama vetting process, I’m sure.
Joe had better take that advice Rudy gave him last night.
“you might wanna get that VP offer in writing!”
Caroline Kennedy was queen of the Obama VP vetting process and cheating and bad grades in law school are not unusual things in the Kennedy family
Well, that’s the last we will hear about that. I wonder if his IQ was released too. He is proud of that.
Right. Just unbelievable that Biden and Kennedy have gotten away with all of this. Biden should’ve been kicked out of law school and we all know what should’ve happend to Teddy’s precious political career.
“’’My intent was not to deceive anyone,’’ Mr. Biden wrote. ‘’For if it were, I would not have been so blatant.’’
At another point, the young Mr. Biden said that ‘’if I had intended to cheat, would I have been so stupid?’’
“Mr. Biden said today, as he did 22 years ago, that he had misunderstood the rules of citation and footnoting.
‘’I was wrong, but I was not malevolent in any way,’’ Mr. Biden said. ‘’I did not intentionally move to mislead anybody. And I didn’t. To this day I didn’t.’’
Translation:
“Even though I had been through 4 years of college and made it into law school I was too stupid to understand the basic rules of attribution as taught in 9th grade high school.”
Is this what you’ve been talking about?
'much ado about nothing.'??
Hey ! isn't that from Shakespeare ?
Care to give attribution, little Joe ?
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Why is Syracuse Univerity College of Law handwritten in and what's this part that's crossed out? University College, Cardiff? Wait, this is Neil Kinnock's college transcript.
Given that the article is from 1987, and it has not been re-examined by the press in this election cycle, I would say that they consider it ancient history.
bump
Long history here.
Senator Biden’s plagiarism of a speech by British Labor Party leader Neal Kinnock took place at a campaign stump at the Iowa State Fairgrounds. In closing his speech, Biden took Kinnock’s ideas and language as if they were his very own inspired thoughts, prefacing Kinnock’s ideas with the phrase “I started thinking as I was coming over here . . . “. Little did Biden suspect that video footage of this speech would be spliced together with footage of Kinnock’s speech in an “attack video” which would be distributed by members of the Dukakis campaign.
Making the headline news in the New York Times, and the evening news on TV, the video was a stab in the back for Biden by his democratic competitor, and although he insisted that “I’m in this race to stay. I’m in this race to win,” the resulting publicity surrounding his unacknowledged use of Neal Kinnock’s speech was what eventually forced him out of the race. Name recognition was no longer a problem for Biden, but not the kind of name recognition which would assist his campaign for the democratic presidential nomination. His name was now a byword for plagiarism. His situation became a classic example of plagiarism for high school teachers and college instructors across the nation lecturing on the evils of unacknowledged source use.
Biden initially denied any wrongdoing, claiming that this was just an inadvertent lack of acknowledgement. Yet there were other instances of rhetorical borrowing from speeches made by Robert F. Kennedy and Hubert Humphrey. And the fact that Biden had given other speeches using the Kinnock passages without acknowledgment suggested that the lifting was more than just an inadvertent oversight.
As with Al Gore’s case, the perception existed in the public mind that Biden just wasn’t the real thing. He wasn’t authentic, didn’t have thoughts and ideas of his own, and was a malleable piece of clay being molded by his handlers to suit the political whims and fancies which they thought would appeal to voters. A Time magazine article by Walter Shapairo was pretty much on the money in offering the speculation that “In the end, Biden may be remembered as the candidate who truly offered the voters an echo and not a choice.”
William Safire, former speechwriter for Richard Nixon, gloated in the New York Times over Biden’s demise, quoting a supposedly “embittered Democrat” who said, “I’m going back to Gary Hart . . . At least he didn’t steal that girl from some far-lefty in England.” And he concluded his op-ed column with a swipe at Biden’s ability to think apart from his speechwriter: “So my advice to candidates like Joe Biden is this: Do justly, love perorations and walk humbly with thy speechwriter. (I forget where I got that, but it has a nice ring to it.) ”
With all the press he was receiving over his Neal Kinnock plagiarism courtesy of the Dukakis “attack videos”, Biden was quickly becoming the “most famous political plagiarist of our time”, as Thomas Mallon describes the unfortunate Delaware senator. It was just a matter of time before Biden would have to bow out of the democratic primary.
Biden himself thought that all the attention to his rhetorical borrowing was “frankly ludicrous”, and the media analysts generally agreed, stating that is was “hardly a capital offense”, but as William Safire put it, “times have changed; you can’t get away with borrowing anything these days – not even an oratorical technique, much less a phrase or paragraph – unless you are willing to give the attribution.” If Gore’s loss of the presidency to George W. Bush in 2000 was more indirectly related to plagiarism, it is evident that Biden’s case is without question a direct result of his unacknowledged use of Kinnock’s speech as if it were his very own. This instance of plagiarism and the public exposure it received cut short the presidential aspirations of an otherwise gifted orator and statesman.
Lest anyone think that was my writting, here’s the link.
http://www.famousplagiarists.com/politics.htm#biden
“Biden Admits Plagiarism in School - NT TIMES - Also poor grades”
Let me know when he admits to lying for decades to ruin an innocent man’s life.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2069846/posts
Sen. Joseph Biden - Bearing false witness...
[snip]“In a striking moment in December 2007, he opened his heart to University of Iowa students. “Let me tell you a little story. My wife and three kids were Christmas shopping for a Christmas tree, a tractor trailer, a guy who allegedly, and I never pursued it, drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family, killed my wife instantly, killed my daughter instantly, and hospitalized my two sons.”
Out on the stump recently and for years, Biden has repeated this charge. Lately, he has tried to soften it with the thought that he doesn’t know if the semi truck driver was drunk...., “ I never pursued it”. He didn’t follow the case about the death of his wife and child? Give me a break.
The court certainly did. The driver was never charged and was cleared of any wrong doing. Mrs. Biden, driving a station wagon full of kids and a Christmas tree pulled into the truck’s path. The driver, also a victim, had not been drinking and for the years before his death his reputation suffered with the false charge that Biden put out in the public for sympathy and political gain.”
Yeah, but a DUI from 22 years ago isn’t ancient history according to the media. Amazing isn’t it?
Not to mention coke use around that same time by the Messiah.
Grrrrrrrrrr!
Wow - how many people realize bin Biden was nailed for plagiarism in law school? All we normally hear about is that he plagiarized campaign speeches. Hmmm.
Priceless!
The defendant on the witness stand told the jury, "if I had intended to rob that bank, would I have been so stupid as to not wear a disguise, use my own ID, and use a fake gun?"
Later, the jury of 12 Biden clones returned a verdict of "Not Guilty".
“Little did Biden suspect that video footage of this speech would be spliced together with footage of Kinnock’s speech in an “attack video” which would be distributed by members of the Dukakis campaign.”
So that is what Susan Estrich was doing during the primary campaign.
I could believe — barely — that he might have “misunderstood” the rules of attribution in a college paper ... except for his later plagiarism of a speech. I read in the latest Economist magazine that during the speech in question (in 1987, I think), he not only used the words of the original speech, but plagiarized the writer’s life story! Biden told his audience that HE came from a coal mining family and that HE was the first in his family to go to college — both big fat lies!!! How do you “misunderstand” something like that?
I respect Biden for doing a good job raising his family. But he plays fast and loose with the truth. No one should ever believe a word that comes out of his mouth without doing a fact-check.
Biden is afraid of Sarah setting her targets on him.
He’d better be putting out every miniscule discretion that occurred during his miserable useless life. I hope McCain has operatives as efficient as the Clintons’ are/were, and will take this Obama-Biden ticket DOWN.
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