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Posted on 09/05/2008 11:46:50 AM PDT by pissant

Three major advocates of abortion rights are planning to spend nearly $30 million to defeat John McCain’s run for president, citing his new running mate as the core reason.

NARAL Pro-Choice America, Planned Parenthood and EMILY’s List have Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) in their crosshairs, calling her a staunch opponent of abortion rights.

“This is the most anti-choice ticket in history of the Republican Party,” said Beth Shipp, the political director of NARAL. “McCain put someone as outside the mainstream as you can on his ticket, which is Sarah Palin,” Shipp added.

Hoping to drive a wedge between the pro-life GOP base and party centrists who favor abortion rights, NARAL Pro-Choice America plans to raise and spend $10 million to communicate to voters in 34 to 35 congressional districts and battleground states. The group is also targeting independents.

Planned Parenthood, another liberal group, plans to spend $10 million on its One Million Strong campaign, an effort to mobilize “pro-choice voters in battleground states,” said spokesman Tait Sye.

And EMILY’s List, a group that backs female Democratic candidates who support abortion, will spend nearly as much as the other groups on its Women Vote! program.

The McCain campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

NARAL sent out an alert to more than 500,000 of its supporters immediately after Sen. McCain (Ariz.) chose Palin as his running mate. The alert highlighted Palin’s opposition to abortion in cases of rape or incest.

The Planned Parenthood campaign began in January and will pick up intensity in the wake of Palin’s selection.

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“This is the most anti-choice ticket in history of the Republican Party".

I think every ticket that I can recall was "anti-choice" except the befuddled Ford-Dole ticket. And that was a real winner.

1 posted on 09/05/2008 11:46:50 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

The morons don’t even realize that’s a ringing endorsement of the McCain/Palin ticket.


2 posted on 09/05/2008 11:49:37 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: pissant

Abortions rights activists...why don’t they call themselves what they really are....BABY KILLERS.


3 posted on 09/05/2008 11:49:45 AM PDT by LottieDah (Democrats and liberals never fail to disappoint.)
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To: pissant
My daughter the HS junior had her first taste of screeching, mindless, hysterical knee-jerk leftism the morning after Palin's acceptance speech.

One of her friends, who up until a month or two ago was fond of saying 'its about f'n time we had a woman in the executive branch', has joined a group called "Intelligent Women Against Palin".

When she tells me these stories I just smile & tell her to get used to it.

4 posted on 09/05/2008 11:51:31 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: pissant

“This is the most anti-choice ticket in history of the Republican Party".

Should read: "This is the most anti-death ticket in history of the Republican Party"

5 posted on 09/05/2008 11:52:26 AM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: pissant

Bring it on, losers


6 posted on 09/05/2008 11:52:39 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureĀ™)
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To: pissant

Abortion rights groups = First wives club


7 posted on 09/05/2008 11:55:40 AM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: pissant

Imagine if they spent 30 million to prevent sexually transmitted diseases? Imagine if they spent 30 million teaching boy, not girls, to keep it in their pants? Imagine if they spent 30 million lobbying Hollywood to stop making films that promote teenage sex?


8 posted on 09/05/2008 11:56:09 AM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: LottieDah

Abortion rights activist — is that similar to a community organizer??? A person who is not responsible to anyone.

These jerks are not elected, they have not been chosen by the community.

They are murderers.


9 posted on 09/05/2008 11:56:12 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (The elephant is dancing for the lady from Alaska)
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To: pissant

Oh good now we can get nurse Jill Stanick(sp?) to come on and tell America about Obama’s votes for infantcide. Keep walking right into it libs.


10 posted on 09/05/2008 11:56:59 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: pissant

NARAL should be: National Baby-Murder Rights Action League [NABMAL]. Planned Parenthood should be: Planned Parentless. Pro Choice America should be: Pro Choose to Destroy Your Children America.


11 posted on 09/05/2008 11:58:02 AM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime member of the "Christian-Radical-Right-Wing-Kook-Factor")
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To: pissant

Sickening baby killers. No money these people spend can justify kiling ones own kids.

Horrible ghouls.


12 posted on 09/05/2008 11:59:46 AM PDT by dforest
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To: pissant
Its not about choice when it involves the killing of an unborn child. The abortion movement is not interested in allowing women to keep their children. Just ask Gloria Feldt where they really stand.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 09/05/2008 12:00:15 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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.

As Andrea Mitchel moaned at the GOP convention: "The war has begun".

Social civil war. OK, bring it. I'm ready to face down neolibs and their witless sheeple. Face-to-face, whether relative, neighbor, co-worker, whatever. Let them find us as Palinesque women and Reaganesque men at every turn, in every line, at every event.

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14 posted on 09/05/2008 12:01:05 PM PDT by polymuser (Taxpayers voting for Obama are like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.)
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To: pissant

Have you ever experienced how much pro-aborts flip out if you call them ‘anti-life’? It’s totally worth it. I highly recommend trying it sometime.


15 posted on 09/05/2008 12:01:09 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Palin 2008 (oh yeah, and McCain too))
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I prefer “infanticide supporters”


16 posted on 09/05/2008 12:01:56 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: GloriaJane

One has to wonder, what mental defect in the brain of a liberal causes them to rally behind the murder of babies? Don’t they know that the same women they claim to defend are physicaly and emotionally damaged for the rest of their lives from the knowledge that they have killed their unborn children? Doesn’t the unborn baby get a choice?


17 posted on 09/05/2008 12:01:57 PM PDT by wisconservative
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To: ladtx

They’re running scared. :)

This is the latest from the atheist, P Z Myers’ web site:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/09/this_is_how_we_will_lose.php

This is how we will lose - PZ Myers

Category: Politics • Weblogs
Posted on: September 4, 2008 8:25 AM, by PZ Myers

Palin scares me, but what worries me more is that we will screw up again and hand the executive office over to another gang of losers, and we can’t afford that anymore. Now look at the open thread http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/09/palin_open_thread.php I set up last night, and you’ll see why I’m concerned. What did people do? They got distracted by irrelevancies, such as the opportunity to exercise a little macho sexism, and then that turned into a nasty, full-blown knife fight with everyone snarling at each other. This is exactly what the Republicans want, writ small on this little tiny island of the blogosphere.

That’s not how we’re going to beat back the troglodytes.

Palin is a stalking horse for failed social and economic and military policies. We don’t want to get drawn away from the important message of defeating those bad policies by the temptation of cheap shots at her appearance and sex, especially because those cheap shots make her look like a sympathetic victim and help advance the Republican agenda.

So please, think. Casual sexism plays into the hands of the bad guys on both sides. What frightens me most is that Palin got up and lied and said nothing of substance, and people are so distracted by the fact that she has breasts that the lies were allowed to slide by. This is how the Democrats can self-destruct, once again.

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Posted by: DaveScot | September 4, 2008 5:49 PM http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/09/this_is_how_we_will_lose.php

You finally got one right, PZ. This IS how you will lose.

Even totally united behind Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004 you couldn’t beat a dumbass draft dodging reborn alcoholic George “Shrub” Bush and his snake-oil sidekick Dick Cheney of all people. That’s pretty pathetic. This round you’ve got an even worse candidate that half of your own party thinks stole the nomination by cheating and dirty politics. Your party is shattered up the middle and you have the worst candidate in all the decades I’ve been paying attention. I knew Jack Kennedy and your nominee, PZ, is no Jack Kennedy.

Now the culture war is still on, the players are all the same on both sides, except this time we have an honest-to-God centrist war hero, even if he is an elitist beltway insider, and a little unheard of cutie, obviously a political savant, who in 30 minutes won the hearts and minds of every heretofore apathetic God fearing blue collar flyover family all across the nation and made them start caring about who wins this election not to mention is stealing a lot of the Hillary voters who wanted nothing more than a woman in the Whitehouse. If McCain wins then Palin, sooner or later, is going to become the first woman president of the United States as by the time she’s up for election to the top spot there won’t be any question of lack of experience. You are basically looking at teh American Margaret Thatcher. Get used to her. She’s going to be in your face for the next 16 years. It’s all over except for the tears and anger from your side that you were f*cked yet again. Write that down.


18 posted on 09/05/2008 12:06:40 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Cure your electile dysfunction - vote Sarah-cuda! "O is for Obama, Oprah, and Over" ~polymuser)
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To: ladtx
The morons don’t even realize that’s a ringing endorsement of the McCain/Palin ticket.

And what is going to happen...the Pro-Life movement has been waiting for this fight for a loooooong time.....

19 posted on 09/05/2008 12:06:57 PM PDT by frogjerk (MSM: We will not question Obama bin Biden...)
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To: pissant

Rats. Looks like we lost the baby butcher vote.

And I really thought they would come our way too!

/sarc


20 posted on 09/05/2008 12:13:47 PM PDT by Claud
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To: pissant
From Oscar Brand's “Look How The Money Rolls In” .

My Grandma sells cheap prophylactics
She punctures the end with a pin.
My Grandpa does the abortions.
Look how the money rolls in.

21 posted on 09/05/2008 12:15:19 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto!)
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To: pissant

These groups have won many battles, only because Conservatives have allowed them to frame the terms of battle and allowed them to fight within the constructs of their own paradigm.

There is no such thing as pro-choice or anti-choice. There are only pro-abortionists and pro-lifers. If Palin were to make an exception in the case of rape or incest, she would be a hypocrite. A life is a life and if you are pro-life, I am not sure how you can make a distinction in one innocent from another.

As horrible as the crimes of rape and incest are, I am just not sure how destroying two innocents makes things any better. I know well, this is all easier written than lived, nor do I intend to seem callous in my observations. I can only imagine how someone would feel to be pregnant as a result of rape or incest.

I think what is truly callous is thinking that removing the “offending tissue” is the solution. If women do not want to become pregnant, they make many choices or pass up many before doing so. The exception here is in the case of rape or incest. Sarah Palin has not chosen the most politically expedient position to be sure. It is my opinion, however, the right position.


22 posted on 09/05/2008 12:16:26 PM PDT by WildcatClan (The world is full of fatheads; so I invented Diet Shampoo)
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To: Matchett-PI

oh that last post is CLASSIC!!!!


23 posted on 09/05/2008 12:16:31 PM PDT by Claud
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To: skeeter

That friend of hers has had an abortion.

She knows it was wrong, that she killed a baby.

She could have taken the repentence route, but instead, chose the justification route.

She’s justifying her action with her “belief” that she did nothing wrong, and that all women should have this “choice”.

She’ll continue damaging her soul by encouraging others to kill their babies if they are inconvenient or imperfect.


24 posted on 09/05/2008 12:17:24 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Claud

As good of an issue as any over which to draw a line in the sand.


25 posted on 09/05/2008 12:20:19 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: pissant

Wow...this news is totally unexpected.


26 posted on 09/05/2008 12:20:53 PM PDT by Busywhiskers (Strength and Honor)
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To: WildcatClan

I disagree. Prolifers such as me who would allow a rape exception, are squarely allied with those who would not. It will be a fine day if we are left arguing this detail after Roe v. Wade is overturned and/or abortion is made illegal.


27 posted on 09/05/2008 12:25:26 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Shoot away you evil little twits the more the better.


28 posted on 09/05/2008 12:31:15 PM PDT by MES401067
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To: MrB

I’ve found that to be very true usually the louder they sceam about their rights the most likely they have already done it once or more. I guess it must be some reflex to not allowing themselves to ever feel guilty? Really sad and amkes me wonder just how much it really bothers their conscience?


29 posted on 09/05/2008 12:32:06 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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The babykillers have their knives out. They are formidable opponents. Absolutely ruthless. And they are well funded—enormous profits are made killing the inconvenient unborn. They have the entire press corps on their side. Palin had best be careful.
30 posted on 09/05/2008 12:34:57 PM PDT by Godwin1 (godwin)
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To: pissant
If only these peoples mothers had been pro choice, we would not have to listen to them today
31 posted on 09/05/2008 12:45:20 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Obama on the other hand does not know the Lord Jesus, and is only the Lords enemy)
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To: pissant

>>McCain put someone as outside the mainstream as you can on his ticket<<

NARAL thinks it’s “mainstream?” LOL, we need a cartoon.


32 posted on 09/05/2008 12:50:05 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: pissant

Did NARAL represent at the Dems convention?
I’m thinking maybe NARAL is so far out of the mainstream that the Dems were hiding them from Americans.


33 posted on 09/05/2008 12:51:45 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Why does Obama hate pregnant women so much?)
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To: chris_bdba

The guilt is real.
Every human has the same God-given understanding of what is right and wrong.

“Conscience” is actually “conviction”. Sarah Palin, by her example, is convicting a lot of people who want to believe that evil is good.

The reason these people are so vehement, and so upset about it is that they KNOW they can’t get right with God without admitting that what they did was wrong and asking forgiveness. It is such an abhorrent thing that it has to be a huge burden, and then if you’ve compounded it by justification and encouragement of others to do it... I can’t imagine the guilt. It would definitely lead to depression.


34 posted on 09/05/2008 12:55:16 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: pissant

(Three major advocates of abortion rights are planning to spend nearly $30 million to defeat John McCain’s run for president, citing his new running mate as the core reason. )

And they say the economy is bad? people can come up with 30 million dollars to fight for the right to kill babies, then I gotta think the economy really is not much of an issue............


35 posted on 09/05/2008 1:02:25 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA ( Choice 2008 McCain =Hero, Obama = Zero. Palin = Fresh - Biden = Stale)
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To: wisconservative

I can’t understand how the liberal mind works.

Liberals fought for the rights of frogs and then the same people who fought for the rights of a frog, turn around and fight to keep killing their own kind. It’s nuts!


36 posted on 09/05/2008 1:03:11 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: Geist Krieger

You should seriously consider becoming a speech writer-excellent post!!!!


37 posted on 09/05/2008 1:06:59 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: pissant
Bring it on.

The attacks will fail.

Sarah will prevail.

God bless this woman.

38 posted on 09/05/2008 1:19:30 PM PDT by montag813
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To: skeeter
Don't you love how they name themselves Intelligent? They are just hateful and arrogant, and pro-abortion is the rock they stand on. Here they are and the site is full of losers who didn't know who Sarah was a week ago, but today hate her as much as they hate GWB. There is no hate stronger than that of the hateful left.
39 posted on 09/05/2008 1:30:09 PM PDT by NYpeanut (gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, "Why did you lie to me?")
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To: NYpeanut

They are, simply put, quite nuts.


40 posted on 09/05/2008 1:43:54 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: pissant

And in other news, the sun will rise in the east and set in the west tomorrow.


41 posted on 09/05/2008 1:44:04 PM PDT by anoldafvet (Barack Obama, the "Platte River Politician")
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To: pissant

Funny how “choice” never means the choice to have one’s baby. Sarah made such a choice. She chose LIFE. And we are all blessed with Trig as a result.


42 posted on 09/05/2008 1:45:56 PM PDT by montag813
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To: pissant
It's funny, because if Governor Palin was pro-abortion, these folks wouldn't support her anyway because she's a Republican.

That's why it's idiotic for Republicans to support abortion. But if they want to pound sand and waste their money, I say go for it.

43 posted on 09/05/2008 2:39:04 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: montag813

Sarah made such a choice. She chose LIFE. And we are all blessed with Trig as a result.


I think there are going to be a lot babies named Sarah real soon.


44 posted on 09/05/2008 2:51:00 PM PDT by Canedawg (Sarah Palin Rocks! McCain-Palin '08)
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To: pissant

Call them “pro death” or “pro infanticide”.

The child does not have a choice.

When I talk with pro death people, I make a point to bring this up.


45 posted on 09/05/2008 2:57:45 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You know that a lot of Republicans, and not a few on this site, are against Plain because she is pro life?

McCain just started a civil war in the GOP. Which is good in a way, but not something I ever expected him to do.


46 posted on 09/05/2008 2:59:25 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: pissant

Abortion Rights = Murder Inc.(for profit)


47 posted on 09/05/2008 3:46:15 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: MrB
She could have taken the repentence route, but instead, chose the justification route.

I wish Republicans could work to spread the message, "If you've had an abortion and feel bad about it, the best way to eliminate the guilt and feel good about yourself again is to discourage others from following in your footsteps. Pretending abortion is okay may help you bury the guilt temporarily, but working to prevent others from making your mistake will eliminate it for good."

I'm not sure how effectively such a message could be spread by those who have never been personally involved with abortions, but if it catches on among those who have, it could result in a massive sea change. I wish Republicans would have the courage to work toward that; unfortunately, I suspect many of them want to keep abortion as an issue and would thus not want to actually 'solve' it.

48 posted on 09/05/2008 4:16:58 PM PDT by supercat
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To: WildcatClan
There are only pro-abortionists and pro-lifers. If Palin were to make an exception in the case of rape or incest, she would be a hypocrite.

If we could discourage even 10% of abortions in the coming year, that would be a good thing. Even if it meant that 90% of abortions went on as planned, that would still be better than 100%.

There are some reasonable practical and moral arguments for and against abortion in the case of rape or incest (e.g. should a rapist be allowed to profit from his crime by perpetuating his genes to the next generation). An argument that I have not seen mentioned is the increased risk of false rape accusations. A woman who consents to have sex may retroactively withdraw that consent if she finds herself pregnant and a rape accusation becomes the key to getting an abortion.

Still, if someone wants to end 99% of abortions, I'd rather go along with that and worry about the other 1% later than argue with them about the other 1% while doing nothing.

49 posted on 09/05/2008 4:27:32 PM PDT by supercat
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To: wisconservative
One has to wonder, what mental defect in the brain of a liberal causes them to rally behind the murder of babies?

I would suggest that, among other things:

  1. They simply do not regard the unborn, at least not the 'earliest' of them, as being human. It's worth noting that many people do not favor the protection of early-term embryos but do favor the protection of later-term fetuses. Sometimes both views are held very strongly by the same individual.

  2. Since technological advances have eliminated many of the consequences of sex, they think it's supposed to be completely without consequence. Anything that would interfere with that is seen as an attack on them.

  3. They believe that if enough people do a wrong thing, it won't be 'wrong' anymore. Maybe if all the other women in the world have many abortions, the one abortion they had won't seem so bad by comparison.
Explanation #1 is the basis for apathy toward the unborn. I suspect explanation #3 is the key for the greatest passion against them.
50 posted on 09/05/2008 4:40:34 PM PDT by supercat
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