Posted on 09/05/2008 2:39:22 PM PDT by goldstategop
The jobs that have gone abroad in great numbers will not return some might as the developing countries become more expensive in time as their economy improves and their citizens demand more money it is already happening in China. We have seen at our company over the last few months orders for spare items that automatically would have gone to our sister company in China are sometimes going to UK companies due to the cost of the raw material increasing in China.
People are going to have to retrain and if they have a dependant family for period of time they are going to need support to retrain. In some cases more afluent family members maybe can help out but there are always going to be people who do not have family in the fortunate position that can help and doing 2 or 3 low paid jobs and retraining at the same time is not possible or viable for them. I think McCain idea is good if it is strictly vetted and ensured that only people that really need this help get it and by retraining they will be eventually contributing in a positive way to the economy of the future.
Check your old Reagan speeches. nothing different from what Reagan GHWB and GWB have said.
LOL. Oh yeah? Reagan campaigned to get rid of the Department of Ed.
W”ho’s going to appoint replacements for the four liberal Justices who are likely to retire during the next administration?”
Well, if you go by the disgruntleds, since McCain wants to legalize the millions of dangerous illegal aliens gardeners, construction workers, chicken pluckers and fruit pickers, we should throw in the towel and let a socialist marxist leftist empty suit run this country and pick the SCOTUS justices. Obama promises to pick folks like Ruth Bader Ginsburg, his favorite justice.
There’s country first, and there’s country can go to h*** I dont care. Yeah, good luck with that.
“One used to be able to consider Republican/Conservative as synonymous. “
When? If not today then the answer is never. Actually that is not true and has never been true. In fact, the party has gotten more conservative since Goldwater/Reagan. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TODAY, EVEN WITH MCCAIN AT THE HEAD IS AS CONSERVATIVE AS ITS EVER BEEN.
There have always been liberal elements in the party (go back to Sen Bob LaFollette who turned progressive, or Teddy R. who in 1912 was the guy to the left of Wilson the Democrat running as a Bull Moose party) and it is only recently that the Republicans have been the conservative-only or conservative-mostly party. That’s a testament to the work of Bill Buckley, Goldwater, Reagan and others who moved the party from the 1960s to the 1980s to the party it is today.
“Reagan campaigned to get rid of the Department of Ed.”
JPTA.
Bump!
I agree with your remarks. I clinched my teeth when he started talking about “worker training”.
We need to get the federal gov’t out of education and return it to the states and local communities. I support school choice but question how effective it will ever be under the control of D.C.
The reverse argument of that would be to imagine what the schools would look like in Detroit, New Orleans, and San Francisco.
It’s a tough topic.
Then it must surely be gone.
Nope, conservatism (or for that matter liberalism) has nothing to do with "God"--RELIGION does! And it was Reagan who actually gave amnesty to illegals! But, IMHO, Reagan was an American first, conservative second (he also actually at one time was a Democrat and a union chief)--that was the point I was trying to make. So-called "conservatives" to me are the likes of Rush, Hannity, Levin, Savage et al--those who've NEVER worn combat boots or swore an oath to their country while in uniform yet have gall enough to besmirch the ones in the GOP who have: i.e. John McCain, John Warner, and Linsay Graham.
Thanks. As soon as I hit the post button, I knew someone would remind me of the history of the party. But I couldn’t un-post.
ROTFLMAO!!!
It was Reagan who defined the three pillars of Conservatism as we have them today. They came out of HIM. It was Reagan who DEFINED the Christian Right as part of Conservatism, taking the Christians away from the Democrats and thereby perfecting the Southern strategy for the Republicans. It takes God and guns to keep the South.
Remove the Christian Right from Reagan's table at your peril, you fool! They are impossible to replace, consisting of the largest single voting bloc in America- 30m on a bad day, 60m if you make them happy (which McCain will never do)... Reagan Conservatism has everything to do with God. The SoCons have as much right to the name "conservative" as any, as even the traitorous bastard, John Judas McCain now readily admits, by his pandering.
But, IMHO, Reagan was an American first, conservative second (he also actually at one time was a Democrat and a union chief)--that was the point I was trying to make.
LOVELY hack on Reagan, there. What RINOs fail to include in their hacks are things like "Unions were not what they are today back then" and "the Democrats were not what they are today back then"...
MANY Democrats were easily as Conservative as the most Conservative of Republicans in Reagan's day, especially in the South and in the West, as the Republican's had not secured the West or the South, as the Christians lay largely in the Democrat's hands.
As to your dig about Reagan giving amnesty- yes he did, but on his word, that broad amnesty was to be given ONCE, to straighten out the mess, and the borders PROTECTED thereafter, to prevent further influx of illegal aliens. McCain and his ilk are breaking Reagan's word to this country.
As to the rest of your statement, namely that those of us who do not lend our vote to your RINO are somehow not putting America first, and are thereby not following Reagan's example, this again is a most scurrilous charge.
It is *not* American to vote for amnesty, the NAU, the LOST treaty, subjugation to World Courts, and a score of other means by which the Republicans (the Republicans, mind you) intend to subvert the authority and sovereignty of this great nation. To use patriotism in a time of war as a means to secure intentions such as these is not only UNAmerican but the very epitome of wickedness.
So-called "conservatives" to me are the likes of Rush, Hannity, Levin, Savage et al--those who've NEVER worn combat boots or swore an oath to their country while in uniform yet have gall enough to besmirch the ones in the GOP who have: i.e. John McCain, John Warner, and Linsay Graham.
You my wrap yourself in the flag all you like, but it is I, and those like me who rise to protect that which is the root of liberty and hear the call of freedom.
Their service gives them NO RIGHT to remove sovereignty from this nation. It gives them no right to trample what our fathers gave us, and what thousands of other men have DIED protecting. Their service is *not* greater than the BLOOD of those who went before.
They (McCain, Grahamnesty) have denied their oath and have become domestic enemies themselves. I will not vote for that, nor should anyone else. It is one thing to lose an election to a socialist Democrat one did not vote for, IT IS QUITE ANOTHER TO APPROVE OF, AND ELECT, A SOCIALIST REPUBLICAN.
Do not get me wrong- The cause of the military is just. I stand with you on the war. It grieves me more than you know to stand against you otherwise. But the cause of this administration, and that of McCain, are not just in matters other than the war, and therein lies the problem.
In your zeal to protect your fellows on foreign soil (which I understand, to the best of my ability), you are more willing than I to concede domestically. It seems you are more willing to concede on everything so long as you can have what you consider to be a good CiC, and what you consider to be a good outcome in Iraq. That is understandable, I assure you.
But the greater peril that assails us is domestic, and stalks our halls of power. If both parties are bent on subverting the sovereignty of America, America will be sovereign no longer, and your warriors fight for naught.
We are but one "amnesty" away from that end. 30m Democrat socialists forever removing the veracity of the electorate- Elections without effect.
The LOST treaty gives the UN control of the seas (and ultimately the oil under them, and the airspace over them).
World Courts subject our citizens (and soldiers) to laws made by other peoples quite against our will.
The NAU grows in power, with appointed bureaucratic committees, beyond the reach of our Constitution and our Congress.
All of these things have been thwarted in their progress by true Conservatives in the House -The only place where Reagan still holds some sway... But all of these things were championed by our illustrious leader (/not) and ALL of them endorsed by John McCain (and the RINO herd) as well.
That I would not support such as this *is* putting America first in my mind, and I will fight against this abrogation of American Constitutional sovereignty and authority with all my might, and to my dying breath, of that you can be sure. That is in keeping with that which our founding fathers laid down. That does honor the blood of those who died to protect this nation and what she stands for, and it is entirely within the PRINCIPLES of Conservatism, and in fact speaks to the very heart thereof.
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