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Biden gets mixed welcome in Northeast
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Posted on 09/06/2008 1:48:05 PM PDT by Chet 99

Posted on Sat, Sep. 6, 2008

Biden gets mixed welcome in Northeast Local Dem leaders say race is issue for many voters

By DAVE DAVIES Philadelphia Daily News

daviesd@phillynews.com 215-854-2595 DEMOCRATIC vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden went stumping for votes yesterday in Northeast Philadelphia, where Democrats need to earn the love of Democrats who voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama in the April primary.

He worked a diner, gave a rousing speech on bread-and-butter issues at a union hall, and reeled off a memorable line tying the Republican candidate to the unpopular team in the White House.

"My friend John McCain and George Bush are joined at the hip," Biden said. "And we need a hip replacement very, very badly."

So how is the ticket doing with the Northeast's white working and middle-class voters?

Mike McAleer, the veteran Democratic ward leader of the 66th ward in the far Northeast, said Obama and Biden haven't closed the deal yet.

"The Dunkin' Donut crowd tells me that we've got everything going for us but Obama," McAleer said. "They can't give me a direct answer. Do I have them right now in the 66th ward? No. But I got 60 days to get them."

Asked what the problem is with Obama, McAleer paused and said: "It's his color . . . I tell them he's half white and half black. He's got a better perspective for everything in this country."

Joe Dougherty, business manager for Ironworkers Local 401, which hosted Biden's morning event, also said race is an issue for many Democrats.

"I hear it in the neighborhood, and I hear it in the union," Dougherty said. "But I remind them (Obama's) mother was white. He sees all sides, and he could be just what we need to bring this country together."

Biden talked to the crowd of about 200 senior citizens and union members about lower taxes, trade agreements that protect American jobs, and ending what he called the Republicans' "war on unions."

Later, Biden and Gov. Rendell worked the lunchtime crowd at The Dining Car, a neighborhood spot on Frankford Avenue.

Biden smiled, laughed, shook hands and sometimes hugged diners or slid into booths next to them. Sometimes he felt the love coming back, and sometimes he didn't.

Charles Daukas said he'd vote for the Obama-Biden team.

"Put it this way, if Hillary was running I would have really went hard for it," Daukas said. "But I'm a Democrat."

In a corner booth, Biden sat down and, after a moment's conversation, planted a kiss on the forehead of Carolyn Bauer, age 89. Bauer explained afterward it wasn't such a friendly encounter.

"I told him I'm not going to vote for him," Bauer said. "Anybody who runs with a guy with a name like that is not going to get my vote. It'd be disgusting to get a man named Barack Obama as president of the United States. No way. I mean it . . . I'm going to vote for McCain and the lady."

"[Obama's] a Muslim," Bauer added. "He pretends to be a Christian, and he isn't, he's a Muslim."

Obama has attended Christian churches for years, and his children are baptized.

After his stops in Northeast Philadelphia, Biden attended a rally in Langhorne. *


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: biden; bluecollarvote; demprimary; joe; joebiden; obama; obamabiden; pa2008; racistdemocrats; racistleft; titanicobama
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1 posted on 09/06/2008 1:49:04 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

Who’s Joe Biden?


2 posted on 09/06/2008 1:49:59 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (McCain/Palin '08! Real change you won't have to "believe in." You'll be able to see it!!!)
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To: Chet 99
"My friend John McCain and George Bush are joined at the hip," Biden said. "And we need a hip replacement very, very badly."

BOOOO. GET OFF THE STAGE, LOSER.

3 posted on 09/06/2008 1:50:58 PM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Chet 99
"My friend John McCain and George Bush are joined at the hip," Biden said. "And we need a hip replacement very, very badly."

Biden sounds like he's drunk again.

4 posted on 09/06/2008 1:51:19 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies; Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: Chet 99
They'll never close the deal! The union bosses are fooling themselves about how popular this liberal duo is with the voters. Keep it up!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 09/06/2008 1:51:49 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

There is NOBODY showing up to see Joe Biden. And Barry thought Joe was going to deliver PA becasue he was born in Scranton?

Great choice by the Messiah.


6 posted on 09/06/2008 1:51:57 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Chet 99

Holy smokes. This story is real.


7 posted on 09/06/2008 1:52:29 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: SIDENET

a rather unfortunate choice of words for a man his age.

That said, it speaks volumes that such an “experienced” member of the Senate has never been given a leadership position by his own party.


8 posted on 09/06/2008 1:53:02 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Who’s Joe Biden?

I heard he's some guy from Scranton, PA.

9 posted on 09/06/2008 1:53:04 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: Chet 99
Obama has attended Christian churches for years, and his children are baptized.

Trinity United - The Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Pastor

"Attended Christian churches" my ass.

10 posted on 09/06/2008 1:53:09 PM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: Chet 99
I'll take the unpopular position here and agree with the union leaders, race is an issue in the Northeast. And the closer the suburb is to the inner city the bigger issue it will become. I wish it wasn't like that but it is.

As for me it's all about Marxist, gun grabbing, baby aborting, tax raising, American hating elitism. Can't stand those folks.

11 posted on 09/06/2008 1:53:44 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Sarah Palin Pro Life, Pro Gun, Pro America, Thank you Lord! :-})
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To: Chet 99
That old woman should have him arrested for assault.
12 posted on 09/06/2008 1:54:16 PM PDT by linn37 (Hail Me, Obama or be cast into the fiery pits of eternal damnation!")
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To: Chet 99

Hey, Joe Biden! If you want to get a big enthusiastic crowd out in the hustings... Next time just call Sarah Palin!


13 posted on 09/06/2008 1:54:40 PM PDT by gridlock (HIX IN STIX DIG MCCAIN CHICK PICK)
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To: BigBobber
200 supporters in a union hall on a weekend? Biden doesn't have what it takes to deliver Pennsylvania! NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

14 posted on 09/06/2008 1:55:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Chet 99
Tell young Democrats that Biden supports the DMCA.

Tell older Democrats that Biden supports the War on Drugs, including the militarization of law enforcement and property seizure without trial.

15 posted on 09/06/2008 1:55:28 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Chet 99
I'm going to vote for McCain and the lady

New Dem talking point.

16 posted on 09/06/2008 1:55:46 PM PDT by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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To: Chet 99
Anybody who runs with a guy with a name like that is not going to get my vote.

Ouch!

17 posted on 09/06/2008 1:55:56 PM PDT by rabidralph (She shoots, she scores!)
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To: Chet 99
...and reeled off a memorable line tying the Republican candidate to the unpopular team in the White House.

"My friend John McCain and George Bush are joined at the hip," Biden said. "And we need a hip replacement very, very badly."

 

Yeah, that's a real knee-slapper.

I wonder who he stole that line from?

18 posted on 09/06/2008 1:56:06 PM PDT by Fintan (Lisa? Lisa??? Wake up, you gotta leave...)
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To: Mr. Mojo

He said “we,” not “they.”


19 posted on 09/06/2008 1:56:15 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: jwalsh07

The people who will vote against Obama based on his race are DEMOCRATS... don’t forget he’ll also get tons of votes just for being black. Whites who think it is fashionable, and he’ll get more than the usual 90% black vote for a Democrat, maybe 95% this time.

Still, Rendell made it clear during the primary that Obama cannot win in PA. This may not show up in polls, but it seems to be showing up in anecdotal evidence, like this report or in having Biden campaign there.


20 posted on 09/06/2008 1:56:35 PM PDT by Chet 99 (http://www.mccainpalinvictory2008.com/)
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To: The KG9 Kid
"I told him I'm not going to vote for him," Bauer said. "Anybody who runs with a guy with a name like that is not going to get my vote. It'd be disgusting to get a man named Barack Obama as president of the United States. No way. I mean it . . . I'm going to vote for McCain and the lady." "[Obama's] a Muslim," Bauer added. "He pretends to be a Christian, and he isn't, he's a Muslim."

Woa And this guy has GUTS to say it, most don't. Obama is not getting the blue collar dems. They better get the dead voting in Philly again.
21 posted on 09/06/2008 1:56:47 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: BlazingArizona
The Reagan Democrats love Biden so much they didn't bother to show. Guess what kind of reception Sarah is gonna get in those same places!!!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

22 posted on 09/06/2008 1:56:54 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Chet 99
...I tell them he's half white and half black...

Ya gotta love Philly.

23 posted on 09/06/2008 1:57:16 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Chet 99
"It'd be disgusting to get a man named Barack Obama as president of the United States. No way. I mean it . . . I'm going to vote for McCain and the lady."

LOL!! THAT'S change you can believe in. I too am voting for "McCain and the lady."

24 posted on 09/06/2008 1:57:46 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: The KG9 Kid
Holy smokes. This story is real.

Holy smokes!!!!! This story is real??????

If it is, Obama is is deep, deep, doo-doo.

25 posted on 09/06/2008 1:57:49 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Chet 99; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
Asked what the problem is with Obama, McAleer paused and said: "It's his color . . . I tell them he's half white and half black. He's got a better perspective for everything in this country."
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

26 posted on 09/06/2008 1:57:53 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Chet 99
John McCain and George Bush are joined at the hip

Biggest.Lie.Ever!!!

He hates President Bush and has been planning his coup of the republican party for the last 8 years or more.

27 posted on 09/06/2008 1:58:10 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: SIDENET
"My friend John McCain and George Bush are joined at the hip," Biden said. "And we need a hip replacement very, very badly."

Am I the only one who feels this is a tasteless thing to say to senior citizens?

28 posted on 09/06/2008 1:58:48 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Oh just the leftist Senator Axelrod chose to give Zeromessiah some leftist gravitas on foreign affairs.
29 posted on 09/06/2008 1:58:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Chet 99


30 posted on 09/06/2008 1:58:57 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking-gun evidence on all the ObamaRat-Commie connections at my FR Profile/Home page)
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To: Chet 99

I thought this blog/forum might be of interest to see the backlash brewing against O’bama’prah:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/blog/2008/09/oprah_five_reasons_why_palin_s.html

I don’t think Newsday leans to the right. But, I could be wrong.

There seems to be a serious grassroots rally building for McCain/Palin.

I thought it would be an interesting story topic, but, I don’t know how to do that.


31 posted on 09/06/2008 1:59:51 PM PDT by waus
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To: Chet 99
He worked a diner

That vast experience of soooo many years in the Senate is really paying big dividends.

Executive decision: Meat loaf or Pot roast?

Meanwhile back in the real world, people are waiting hours to catch a glimpse of Sarah and hear her speak.

32 posted on 09/06/2008 1:59:59 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Vegetarian - Old Indian word for bad hunter)
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To: gridlock
LOL

If he used Sarah as warm up, at least he would start out with a full house.

33 posted on 09/06/2008 2:00:18 PM PDT by magslinger (A politician who thinks he is above the law is actually beneath contempt.)
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To: Chet 99


34 posted on 09/06/2008 2:00:28 PM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Chet 99
Agreed. McCain will carry this state. You just watch the kind of crowds Sarah will pull in Reagan Democrat country in the state.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

35 posted on 09/06/2008 2:00:41 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Chet 99

Look, I don’t live in Wonderland. There are Republicans and Democrats who will vote against him because of his race. Not most or even many but a small percentage will do just that. Of course many more will vote for Obama because he is black. It’s just the way things are.


36 posted on 09/06/2008 2:00:47 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Sarah Palin Pro Life, Pro Gun, Pro America, Thank you Lord! :-})
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To: Chet 99
I remind them (Obama's) mother was white. He sees all sides, and he could be just what we need to bring this country together

Funny, he doesn't seem to mention that she was an atheist as well as a white girl. He also doesn't mention that an atheist mother and muslim father gave the baby a Hebrew name. (Obama's campaign has often pointed that "Barack" has some meaning in Hebrew; I don't know what it is.)

37 posted on 09/06/2008 2:01:06 PM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: Chet 99

HAHAHA! That old lady was really funny!

I know lots more Dems like her who won’t vote for him.

Cheech’s mother said something similar: “I can’t vote for him. He’s not even an American.”

This is the viewpoint of many elderly ethnic ladies.


38 posted on 09/06/2008 2:01:30 PM PDT by Palladin (Hello!! The Grand Old Party is BACK!!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I suppose you will have to source others to find out.

I was just surprised he didn’t start his VP acceptance speach with: “Fourscore and twenty years ago we asked not what our country can do for us but asked if all we have to fear was fear itself of Sally in the garden sifting ciders lifting up her leg and farting like a man,the bursting of her bloomers breaking sixteen windows,the cheeks of her butt going...(whereupon Biden then claps his hands three times).

(Apologies to the late Kurt Vonnegut)


39 posted on 09/06/2008 2:01:39 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Yeltsin was the comedy relief between two evil bastards.")
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To: Stentor

...I tell them he's half white and half black...

Ya gotta love Philly.

40 posted on 09/06/2008 2:02:02 PM PDT by Covenantor
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To: Chet 99

I can’t wait to hear Obama explain to those autoworkers losing their jobs about the nice Toyota Prius he has in his garage.


41 posted on 09/06/2008 2:02:08 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: jwalsh07

Wow, the bit about his race stunned me. And these are supposed to be the all-inclusive Democrats??

I’m with you, it’s all about his core beliefs. I could give a rip about the color of his skin or sex.


42 posted on 09/06/2008 2:02:14 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Praise God and pass the ammunition!)
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To: hsalaw

That’s Crazy Joe Biden.

It was the Jim Beam talking.


43 posted on 09/06/2008 2:02:20 PM PDT by Palladin (Hello!! The Grand Old Party is BACK!!!)
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To: ETL

Oh, Michelle, please - TMI. Wear a longer skirt or don’t cross your legs.


44 posted on 09/06/2008 2:02:20 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Chet 99
"It's his color . . . I tell them he's half white and half black. He's got a better perspective for everything in this country."

"I hear it in the neighborhood, and I hear it in the union," Dougherty said. "But I remind them (Obama's) mother was white. He sees all sides, and he could be just what we need to bring this country together."

"I told him I'm not going to vote for him," Bauer said. "Anybody who runs with a guy with a name like that is not going to get my vote. It'd be disgusting to get a man named Barack Obama as president of the United States. No way. I mean it . . . I'm going to vote for McCain and the lady."

"[Obama's] a Muslim," Bauer added. "He pretends to be a Christian, and he isn't, he's a Muslim."

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Live by the sword, die by the sword, Barry Baby. If your folks are going to go out and say that your race is important, and somehow it makes you a better choice, some other folks are going to go out and say that your race is important, and somehow it makes you a worse choice.

But, before you complain, remember who it is who keeps bringing up race all the time...

To my mind, both arguments are irrelevant. The reason I am not going to vote for Barack Obama is that his color, politically speaking, is Pink-O and tending to Red.

45 posted on 09/06/2008 2:02:37 PM PDT by gridlock (HIX IN STIX DIG MCCAIN CHICK PICK)
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To: jwalsh07
I wish it wasn't like that but it is.

Get your ass kicked on 13th an Wolf sometime for a couple of bucks. Have an old woman beaten to death with an umbrella stand a block away for her Social Security money. I think Dinesh D'Souza called it rational discrimination.

46 posted on 09/06/2008 2:02:44 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Fintan

I liked the way he played nearly a whole deck of race cards in two sentences.


47 posted on 09/06/2008 2:03:20 PM PDT by rattrap
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To: Happy Rain

Oops,I meant fourscore and SEVEN years ago!

Where’s an editor when you need one?


48 posted on 09/06/2008 2:03:39 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Yeltsin was the comedy relief between two evil bastards.")
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To: Chet 99

If Osama can’t win Pennsylvania, it is all over. I see McCain/Palin getting close to 400 electoral votes.


49 posted on 09/06/2008 2:04:21 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (I would spend more time on FR but I have to make sure my tires are inflated.)
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To: linn37
In a corner booth, Biden sat down and, after a moment's conversation, planted a kiss on the forehead of Carolyn Bauer, age 89. Bauer explained afterward it wasn't such a friendly encounter. "I told him I'm not going to vote for him," Bauer said. "Anybody who runs with a guy with a name like that is not going to get my vote. It'd be disgusting to get a man named Barack Obama as president of the United States. No way. I mean it . . . I'm going to vote for McCain and the lady."

"[Obama's] a Muslim," Bauer added. "He pretends to be a Christian, and he isn't, he's a Muslim."

Do you mean the old woman who said those words to joe biden? I would prefer that Carolyn be given something more like a medal.

50 posted on 09/06/2008 2:04:52 PM PDT by An Old Man ("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
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