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The Bogus Flag Story (CBS Buys into DNC Spin Without Seeing The "Other" Pics)
CBS ^ | Sep 6, 2008 | By Steve Benen

Posted on 09/06/2008 6:38:00 PM PDT by icwhatudo

It seems Fox News and some far-right blogs are excited about the latest in a series of lies from the McCain campaign -- the notion that thousands of American flags from the Democratic convention were going to be thrown away.

Like far too many of the stories pushed by the McCain campaign, and embraced by Fox News and far-right blogs, it's not true.

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"All of the flags at Invesco were picked up and put in bags and into storage, along with the unused flags and campaign signs. The flags were going to be donated, and the signs were going to be sent out to be used elsewhere,"

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"I mean, c'mon, we were never ever going to throw out flags."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008dncconvention; coloradosprings; democrats; mediabias; msm; obama; oldglory
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If this was the only pic, of well wrapped flags in green trash bags, the DNC response "might" hold some water with some people (even though the bags were found near dumpsters):

The only problem with the DNC response, and what CBS is missing, is the "other" pics. Not pics of well wrapped flags, but of flags in trash bags with food, forks, empty water bottles, etc:

If CBS had seen these pics, would they really believe the DNC saying: "I mean, c'mon, we were never ever going to throw out flags."?

On second thought, they believed microsoft word could make a "th" in the 70's....

1 posted on 09/06/2008 6:38:00 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: icwhatudo

Why did they have 12,000 left-over flags in the first place???? Seems the DNC could not even give the flags away to Obama followers.


2 posted on 09/06/2008 6:40:24 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: icwhatudo
Looking at the top picture they sure look like they are in trash bags to me. The bottom three pictures are truly shameful.
3 posted on 09/06/2008 6:41:18 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Always Right

Well, for *some* of the Obama followers, those flags were from the wrong country...


4 posted on 09/06/2008 6:41:48 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: icwhatudo

I know BS when I CBS....


5 posted on 09/06/2008 6:42:44 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Fire mission!)
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To: icwhatudo

It’s the SeeBS tentacle of the DNC. The network of such liberal greats as Dan Rather. I wouldn’t have expected anything else.


6 posted on 09/06/2008 6:43:51 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (McCain/Palin '08! Real change you won't have to "believe in." You'll be able to see it!!!)
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To: Always Right
They had no grease sandwiches. Who are you gonna believe ?
7 posted on 09/06/2008 6:43:58 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: icwhatudo

8 posted on 09/06/2008 6:44:03 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: icwhatudo

Exactly, the flags were in GARBAGE bags with GARBAGE! Someone send these pics to CBS!


9 posted on 09/06/2008 6:44:27 PM PDT by blondee123 (Vote for the HERO, not the ZERO! Is PRESENT a vote???)
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To: clintonh8r

“I know BS when I CBS....”

LOL

Perfect.


10 posted on 09/06/2008 6:44:57 PM PDT by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: icwhatudo
CBS Buys into Spews DNC Spin Without Seeing Referring To The "Other" Pics

CBS wasn't fooled. It's a very willing member of Team Obama.

11 posted on 09/06/2008 6:45:38 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: icwhatudo

The Ghost of Dan Rather and Mary Mapes returns to CBS.

I hope they brought their Times New Roman typewriers with them...


12 posted on 09/06/2008 6:46:23 PM PDT by Tempest (The devil and the media have sided with Obama)
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To: icwhatudo


13 posted on 09/06/2008 6:46:28 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking-gun evidence on all the ObamaRat-Commie connections at my FR Profile/Home page)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
SeeBS
14 posted on 09/06/2008 6:46:36 PM PDT by sionnsar (Obama?Bye-den!|Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|ObamasUnity=EinVolk,EinReich,EinFuhrer)
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To: icwhatudo

Too bad the author of article doesn’t print his e-mail address so you might forward these photos to him via CBS.


15 posted on 09/06/2008 6:47:27 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: Tempest
Damn it! typewriters even!
16 posted on 09/06/2008 6:48:22 PM PDT by Tempest (The devil and the media have sided with Obama)
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To: icwhatudo

So McCain can make an ad with this picture telling the people that nObama was going to donate them to that it's their repsonsibility to clean off the used food and recycle the water bottles.

17 posted on 09/06/2008 6:48:49 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (OBAMA: He was a flop before he became a flipper.)
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To: icwhatudo

If the flags were the Hammer and Sickle, they would have been treated like gold by the Demorats!


18 posted on 09/06/2008 6:49:28 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 (An Empty Suited Opportunist with No Redeeming Value!)
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To: Always Right

I would suggest that both events could be true. The flags were collected and bagged as people exited. Some however didn’t turn them in, they trashed theirs.


19 posted on 09/06/2008 6:50:32 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: icwhatudo

If you explain to CBS that these pictures are “fake but accurate”, they may pick up the story. It’s the only logic they can muster.


20 posted on 09/06/2008 6:50:34 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: ETL

Biden is almost the same as Aires famous photo standing on a flag


21 posted on 09/06/2008 6:50:59 PM PDT by Selmore (You want fries with that?)
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To: ETL

Look at the respect Biden pays the flag...on the floor at his feet.


22 posted on 09/06/2008 6:50:59 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: Always Right
Why did they have 12,000 left-over flags in the first place????

Because smoking was prohibited at the DNC and no one had a lighter.

23 posted on 09/06/2008 6:51:53 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.)
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To: ETL

The flag by Biden’s feet. Priceless.


24 posted on 09/06/2008 6:52:34 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: ETL

Biden clearly doesnt give a crap about Our Flad as the picture proves! Thats why the closet Muslim Obama chose him as his running mate! That picture is infuriating!


25 posted on 09/06/2008 6:53:36 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 (An Empty Suited Opportunist with No Redeeming Value!)
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To: icwhatudo

'Guilty as hell, free as a bird—America is a great country,' he [Ayers] said."
August 2001, Chicago Magazine (article: No Regrets)

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/

"God D*** America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11"
--Rev Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for twenty years

"

"America’s chickens... are coming home... to ROOST!"


26 posted on 09/06/2008 6:54:29 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking-gun evidence on all the ObamaRat-Commie connections at my FR Profile/Home page)
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To: icwhatudo

Well, with phrases like “another in a series of lies from the McCain campaign”, it certainly does sound like CBS is giving us unbiased reporting.


27 posted on 09/06/2008 6:54:41 PM PDT by HarryCaul (Verify Possums! Pogo's Enemy is Us!)
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To: icwhatudo


..and that's the way we say it is....
28 posted on 09/06/2008 6:55:03 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Common sense and common decency are uncommon virtues among America's left.")
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To: icwhatudo

CBS doesn’t buy the spin, they write the spin.


29 posted on 09/06/2008 6:55:42 PM PDT by webheart (All sarcasm contained in this post is intentional, and does not necessarily reflect a real opinion)
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To: icwhatudo

Those flags are forgeries. There are only 50 stars on them.


30 posted on 09/06/2008 6:57:48 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: ETL

I swear, Barack Obama is half black half white, and so he’s fairly light-complected, but Rev Wright looks like a white dude. The only thing black about him is the way he talks, and anybody can do that. I wonder if anyone has ever researched his family tree.


31 posted on 09/06/2008 7:00:17 PM PDT by webheart (All sarcasm contained in this post is intentional, and does not necessarily reflect a real opinion)
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To: icwhatudo

It would be nice to know when the picture of the bags in the CBS were taken. Could this be a picture before the convention started?


33 posted on 09/06/2008 7:00:56 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: icwhatudo

Kind of ironic that the network that brought us RatherGate would say consider the source.


34 posted on 09/06/2008 7:02:10 PM PDT by rwa265 (Christ, My Cornerstone)
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To: StarFan; icwhatudo

His email address is sbenen@washingtonmonthly.com

He used to run a nasty little blog called Carpetbag Report, then got hired to blog for Washington Monthly. CBS must use Washington Monthly as a source, because that’s where this entry originated.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/


35 posted on 09/06/2008 7:03:48 PM PDT by LimberJim
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To: I'm ALL Right!
Look at the respect Biden pays the flag...on the floor at his feet.

Yes, and it wasn't that it fell on the floor. If you look closely, you'll see that the stick is leaning up against the chair as if he carelessly placed the flag that way (upside down touching the floor) intentionally.


36 posted on 09/06/2008 7:04:40 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking-gun evidence on all the ObamaRat-Commie connections at my FR Profile/Home page)
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To: icwhatudo

Steve Benen

is a freelance writer/researcher and creator of The Carpetbagger Report.

His work has appeared in a variety of publications, including the Washington Monthly, The American Prospect, The Gadflyer, and Church & State. In addition to The Carpetbagger Report, he is the lead editor of Salon.com’s Blog Report (formerly the Daou Report), and has been a contributor to Talking Points Memo, Washington Monthly, Crooks & Liars, The American Prospect, the Guardian, AlterNet, and Political Wire.

Benen has also been a guest on several radio programs, including NPR’s “Talk of the Nation” and Air America Radio’s “Sam Seder Show,” and appears once a month on the nationally syndicated “Culture Shocks with Barry Lynn.”

Benen got his Master’s at the George Washington University while interning at the Office of Speechwriting in Bill Clinton’s White House. He has written direct mail for a major Democratic consulting firm, worked as a communications director for a congressional campaign, and for six years, was part of the communications department at Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

—from The Huffington Post


37 posted on 09/06/2008 7:04:50 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: icwhatudo
What I find fun about this SeeBS piece is that they call out Fox. HMMMMM!!!! Methinks Fox is not going to take this sitting down. They WILL fight back. This election cycle just gets better and better by the minute as the drive-bys step in it over and over again.
38 posted on 09/06/2008 7:05:16 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Yo Barry, IF FOR 20 YEARS YOU STAY IN THE PEW, IT'S BECAUSE YOU SHARE THE VIEW!!!!!)
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To: mathprof

"I wonder if anybody's paying attention. I haven't had a chance to scratch the testiculads all day. I could sneak in a stealth scratch right now and then go around behind that big curtain thingy and take a whiz. Uhhh, that feels better already."

39 posted on 09/06/2008 7:08:00 PM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: Always Right
"All of the flags at Invesco were picked up and put in bags and into storage, along with the unused flags and campaign signs. The flags were going to be donated, and the signs were going to be sent out to be used elsewhere,"

This will be a good continuing story. Here are some journalistic type questions:

  1. How many flags did they hand out at the event?
  2. How many people attended the event?
  3. Where did the DNC 'pick up' the 12,000 US flags from? The ground? The bathroom floor? The parking lots?
  4. Knowing as fact how many flags were handed out and how many were 'Picked up', what percentage of America loving Obama supporters tossed the United States Flag on the ground as they wept for their candidate?
Come on CBS - Write a story, not a hit job.
40 posted on 09/06/2008 7:11:48 PM PDT by arkady_renko (You organize your sock drawer, not your community)
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To: ETL

Who’s the blonde with the guy with the fake hair?

A reporterette?


41 posted on 09/06/2008 7:12:13 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: ETL

Good find.


42 posted on 09/06/2008 7:12:43 PM PDT by CajunConservative (They can either go quietly or they can go loudly but either way they will go. Bobby Jindal)
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To: LimberJim; All

also found this address

admin@thecarpetbaggerreport.com


43 posted on 09/06/2008 7:14:15 PM PDT by edzo4 (Vote McCain, Keep Your Change)
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To: mathprof

Refuses to place his hand over his heart and refuses to wear patriotic lapel pins but has his eye on the WH. Someone really should check behind those ear flaps for 666.


44 posted on 09/06/2008 7:14:38 PM PDT by itsthejourney (Sarah-cuda IS the right reason)
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To: NOBAMA in 08
closet Muslim Obama

Obama is no "closet Muslim". He's on the commie left. Please see my FR Home/About page.

Sample...

"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements [1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..." -Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, pg 95.

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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
"FBI files from 1976, recently made public under the Freedom of Information Act, confirm the connections between Weatherman, Havana, and Moscow. Weatherman leaders like Mark Rudd traveled illegally to Havana in 1968 to engage in terrorist training. There, camps set up by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were educating Westerners both in Marxist philosophy and urban warfare."

___________________________________________________________

Bill Ayers TODAY (April 6, 2008), from his own red communist star-headed website, begging to debate communism vs capitalism with Sean Hannity and STILL calling for revolution!


"Imperialism. I’m against it, and if Sean Hannity and others were honest, this is the ground they would fight me on. Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolution—a revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good —must win.

We begin by releasing our most hopeful dreams and our most radical imaginations: a better world is both possible and necessary.

Source: Bill Ayers' own website

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Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA [Maoist]
Revolution #63, October 1, 2006

Interview with Bill Ayers:
On Progressive Education, Critical Thinking and the Cowardice of Some in Dangerous Times

___________________________________________________________

Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4337417

Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."... "Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html

Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says


"Minister Farrakhan and his delegation met privately with President Fidel Castro of Cuba."
http://www.finalcall.com/media/cuba/

[that's Michelle Obama with Mrs. Farrakhan. Mrs. Farrakhan is at center bottom wearing white]
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/03/michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhans-wife-together-in-photo/

Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Obama's pastor and spirtual advisor "crazy uncle" of more than 20 years, honors "Honorable" Minister Louis Farrakhan with the "Jeremiah A. Wright Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer Award" at the 2007 Trumpet Gala held at the Hyatt Regency Chicago.
[it appears the original video was removed, but this one is identical to it]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW2OhkZ0RSg

Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02

From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

Catholics for Marx
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

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45 posted on 09/06/2008 7:15:29 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking-gun evidence on all the ObamaRat-Commie connections at my FR Profile/Home page)
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To: arkady_renko; neverdem

The photo of the flags in the black trash bags are those that were NEVER distributed: They are all rolled up and clear, in uniform sets EXACTLY in order and in EXACT lines of uniform stick position in even rolls just like they come off the machines.

Check this:
The democrats - at NO time - ever waved or displayed 12,000 flags in public. (I could imagine they might have waved 100, maybe 1000 - but I actually never saw even half that amount (500) on the screen images.


46 posted on 09/06/2008 7:17:05 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Parley Baer
It seems to me the three bottom pictures have nothing to do with the top. But if you have never used a garbage as a storage container, you don't live in the real world. I put my hunting cloths in one every year and throw them in the back of the truck beside the four-wheeler. That way they don't get wet if it rains.

I think if it is make up someone needs to walk the plank.

47 posted on 09/06/2008 7:20:07 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: bert

I would say you are correct, kids throw stuff in garbage and so do adults. But I don’t think all those flags were that neatly collected to throw away.


48 posted on 09/06/2008 7:21:54 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: icwhatudo

CBS is just posting a story from here;

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/

BTW, they have the ability to leave feedback for those who are interested.


49 posted on 09/06/2008 7:23:23 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: STARWISE
From Michelle Malkin's site

When you click on that link it goes to a website called "Hot Air". Is that somehow affiliated with Malkin's site?

50 posted on 09/06/2008 7:24:06 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking-gun evidence on all the ObamaRat-Commie connections at my FR Profile/Home page)
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