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12,000 American Flags - were they DNC trash or stolen - asking the Denver Police Department
Denver PD ^ | 9-6-08 | dfu

Posted on 09/06/2008 7:31:43 PM PDT by doug from upland

THE STORY FROM ABC IN DENVER

As many of you have heard, there is a flag controversy between the Republicans and the DemocRATS. The RNC is claiming that it save about 12,000 Americans flags leftover from Invesco Field in Denver. The claim is that they were headed for the dumpster.

The DemocRATS are claiming that the flags were "stolen" and never intended for the dumpster. They claim that they were in storage and were either to be used again or donated.

If 12,000 flags were stolen, I would think that a police report would have been filed.

In a preliminary contact with the Denver Police, I was transferred to an officer in the communications department. She knew of no police report for the theft of such flags, but she referred me to the Public Information Officer, whom I will attempt to call on Monday.

That is the latest on the story. We will let you know the status after the discussion with the PIO.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; co2008; democrats; denver; flags; leo; obama; oldglory; recycling; republicans; theft
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1 posted on 09/06/2008 7:31:44 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

good one!

recycling?

i was driving to san diego today and roger ‘cussed this one.

wow!

what dynamite! placed in the right ad-making hands, the dems could lose some votes!


2 posted on 09/06/2008 7:33:35 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: doug from upland

Didn’t Drudge have a picture last week from Invesco of garbage cans filled with flags ?


3 posted on 09/06/2008 7:34:55 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: ken21

Those are nice flags and were probably worth several thousand dollars. If they were taken from storage, someone should be arrested. If they were found by a dumpster, the RATS need to pay big time.


4 posted on 09/06/2008 7:35:07 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

check with the Solid Waste Dept see if the green party called for a recycling pick up


5 posted on 09/06/2008 7:35:09 PM PDT by woofie
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To: doug from upland

I am confused were US Flag that Demos threw away if so that mess up or what really happen

I AM SO CONFUSED


6 posted on 09/06/2008 7:35:16 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: doug from upland

I was going to ask this exact question on another thread earlier today but got distracted. Good for you Doug!


7 posted on 09/06/2008 7:35:27 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: doug from upland
The dimocRATS were caught red handed. Bwahahahaha. Doug, you are right. If they were stolen than file a police report. Hahahahaha.
8 posted on 09/06/2008 7:35:45 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: doug from upland

http://blogs.denverpost.com/opinion/2008/09/06/republican-recycling/

See the update.


9 posted on 09/06/2008 7:37:51 PM PDT by AliVeritas (These principalities and powers can only be banished by prayer and fasting.)
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To: doug from upland

DemonRats are not liars because they lie, they lie because they’re liars!


10 posted on 09/06/2008 7:38:29 PM PDT by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: SevenofNine

We are all somewhat confused and waiting for the full story. Supposedly, they were found near a dumpster and not in storage for safekeeping. Did someone break into storage and steal them? We don’t know yet. CBS is calling it a bogus story because they are taking the RAT spin on it.


11 posted on 09/06/2008 7:38:52 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland
Section 176 - Respect For Flag

"The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise."

"The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way."

"The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning."


12 posted on 09/06/2008 7:39:49 PM PDT by South40
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To: AliVeritas

FROM YOUR UPDATE LINK: they were on a loading dock for a week and a day and no one was coming to get them.

UPDATE I: I just spoke with the person at Invesco who found the flags and he thinks both sides are exaggerating a bit. The person claims the majority of the bags with flags in them were near the trash, on a dock, and would have been thrown away. The person thinks it was probably an “oversight” by the Democrats rather than any nefarious plot against the flag. But the person doesn’t believe anyone was coming to get them: “The flags were there for a week and a day and no one came looking for them.”


13 posted on 09/06/2008 7:42:29 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

I think the whole world now knows the democrats have been lying all along.


14 posted on 09/06/2008 7:42:59 PM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: South40

those pictures show exactly they were left for trash.

The Dems are lying again and no doubt the usual media will be either trying to ignore the story or go with the Dem and Obama lie


16 posted on 09/06/2008 7:44:18 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: doug from upland
If the Dim's convention ended 2-3 days ago, I may buy their version of the story (it's in the storage, etc.) However, there are several facts that make their claim difficult to accept:

1. the flags were found in the venue. I don't think the Dims rented the venues a week after the convention.

2. If they were in the storage, how could the boyscouts got their hands on the flags?

3. The vendors claimed that the flags were next to the dumpster, and there are many pics showing that, indeed, the Dims threw (at least some of) the flags.

The Dims didn't realize that their property were 'stolen'? And, as this thread suggests, they didn't file any report to the police?

17 posted on 09/06/2008 7:45:10 PM PDT by paudio (Can you tell me a single thing Obama has done in the senate?)
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To: South40

I am eagerly awaiting the Democrats to provide proof. We all know they will be very cooperative in proving that the flags were stolen and will be pressing charges. Because we all know demoRATS wouldn’t lie about something of this nature.


18 posted on 09/06/2008 7:46:17 PM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: manc

At minimum they were disrespected per Section 176 above. But then, libscum have no respect for this country; why would they respect her flag?


19 posted on 09/06/2008 7:46:47 PM PDT by South40
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To: doug from upland

The MSM has pretty much ignored this story.

They are all in Alaska interviewing the 9,000 residents of Wasilla for one disgruntled citizen who will make headlines for the next several days.


20 posted on 09/06/2008 7:47:17 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Sarah make Arnold look like a girlie man)
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To: AliVeritas

Great quote:

“I just spoke with the person at Invesco who found the flags and he thinks both sides are exaggerating a bit. The person claims the majority of the bags with flags in them were near the trash, on a dock, and would have been thrown away. The person thinks it was probably an “oversight” by the Democrats rather than any nefarious plot against the flag. But the person doesn’t believe anyone was coming to get them: “The flags were there for a week and a day and no one came looking for them.””

Doesn’t really sound to me like BOTH sides are exaggerating.


21 posted on 09/06/2008 7:47:27 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: doug from upland

It sure looked to me like the flags were in plastic trash bags with other items that anyone would consider trash


22 posted on 09/06/2008 7:48:01 PM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists// Biden= Big,Blowhard Doofus)
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To: doug from upland

Well if you info from Inforamtion officer on Monday post it I really want to know

I wouldn’t pass that on Demos especially Magic Barry


23 posted on 09/06/2008 7:48:33 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

‘Maybe he’s got Muslim connections or we’re going to say that, you know, he hangs out with radicals or he’s not patriotic.’”

This whole campaign is walking and quacking like an unpatriotic duck. Gee, I think the question of whether he hangs out with radicals has been answered.


24 posted on 09/06/2008 7:52:19 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

agree.

big time tv ad!


25 posted on 09/06/2008 7:52:29 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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26 posted on 09/06/2008 7:54:02 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland
In a preliminary contact with the Denver Police, I was transferred to an officer in the communications department. She knew of no police report for the theft of such flags, but she referred me to the Public Information Officer, whom I will attempt to call on Monday. That is the latest on the story. We will let you know the status after the discussion with the PIO.

Interesting. Those flags are $5.00 a piece. So $60,000 was "stolen" and noone thought to file a police report. Well ModelBreaker has four of them. Every precinct caucus I run in the future will start with one of them and the story of how the rats were going to throw them out.

So come and get me Obama, for receiving stolen property.

You guys should have seen it today. They passed them out to a huge crowd at the McCain/Palin rally. The flags started at the front and then spread across the crowd. By the end, 12,000 Republicans were waving flags paid for by the DNC.

That's what conservatives have spent the last 50 years doing. Cleaning up after the mess left by liberals. We even know what to do with their trash.

27 posted on 09/06/2008 7:57:13 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: doug from upland

Doug, those pics need to go to Drudge, Hannity, Rush and any other media outlet that will broadcast them.


28 posted on 09/06/2008 7:58:15 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Sarah make Arnold look like a girlie man)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
I know I saw a picture of discarded flags but I can't remember where I saw it.

Some were mixed with litter and if I remember some were on the floor. They were not in bundles or bundled in trash bags.

29 posted on 09/06/2008 7:59:54 PM PDT by frannie (Fear not tomorrow, God is already there.)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield
Yes, and note that the pictures were taken at two different times ... note different positions of her purse, the water bottles, etc. Just making the case here that Biden regularly put the flag on the ground when he wasn't using it - the flag did not just drop to the ground unawares.
30 posted on 09/06/2008 8:01:08 PM PDT by RightField (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well,.)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

I just spent a half-hour trying to find the photo Drudge had on his site last week, to no avail. Maybe someelse will have better luck?

http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/dsp/timeline_html.htm


31 posted on 09/06/2008 8:01:12 PM PDT by library user (What say you, Messiah?)
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To: AliVeritas

I think someone is blowing a lot of smoke here, but I’m not sure who.


32 posted on 09/06/2008 8:04:48 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: doug from upland
So I have a question????? If they were in “storage” why were they in trash bags and NOT bins or boxes????? I am pretty sure when you place an order for thousands of flags they are not delivered to you in trash bags!!! And if you were storing them for future use you would put them in a box and in a storage closet. NOT IN A TRASH BAG ON A LOADING DOCK!!!! They are caught red handed!!!
33 posted on 09/06/2008 8:05:03 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Yo Barry, IF FOR 20 YEARS YOU STAY IN THE PEW, IT'S BECAUSE YOU SHARE THE VIEW!!!!!)
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To: SevenofNine
See Reply#12 and seethe with rage at the RATS.
34 posted on 09/06/2008 8:05:40 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: South40

What bunch of pigs Demos are


35 posted on 09/06/2008 8:09:01 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: ModelBreaker

You need to sell one of them on eBay. If you need help writing the script, it will be a pleasure! Or, I will list it as long as I know it can be delivered to the winning bidder. Are you in?


36 posted on 09/06/2008 8:09:35 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland
I love this comment from the Denver Post site:

If the flags had been French, the democrats would have taken them home like they were a national treasure and displayed them proudly.

37 posted on 09/06/2008 8:11:46 PM PDT by freespirited
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Here are the statements from the Democrats.

“American flags were proudly waved by the 75,000 people who joined Barack Obama at the Democratic Convention. John McCain should applaud that, but instead his supporters wrongfully took leftover bundles of our flags from the stadium to play a cheap political stunt calling into question our patriotism.

Ummm, “wrongfully took” means stolen.


38 posted on 09/06/2008 8:12:47 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

I gather you saw this... (check out the Pepsi Center vs. Invesco/Redstate comment)

http://atrueobamanation.blogspot.com/2008/09/dont-question-their-patriotism.html

The natives are getting restless on this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA7bfbw26u8


39 posted on 09/06/2008 8:17:09 PM PDT by AliVeritas (These principalities and powers can only be banished by prayer and fasting.)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue


40 posted on 09/06/2008 8:22:42 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: South40

Some storage program they have going on there...bag the flags with the Lib-slobbery Coke cans. Yuck.


41 posted on 09/06/2008 8:30:36 PM PDT by madison10 (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: ModelBreaker

Good for you. I hope Rush gets wind of this. Maybe he can turn this into something like Harry Reid’s letter?


42 posted on 09/06/2008 8:32:37 PM PDT by tpanther
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Those pictures don’t look like leftover bundles...they look like common waste...if they were important they would have had someone retrieve them all right away and not let them be put in trash bags and left for days. No one cared because they were just camera “props” and nothing more to the RATS. They disgust me and then try and say the McCain camp are thieves...unbelievable...


43 posted on 09/06/2008 8:35:47 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: doug from upland
Thanks for beating me to it guys.

Could someone be sure to post pictures (and, on other websites where this is brought up, links to pictures) of the bags full of other trash and food-stained flags whenever the "recycling" lie is brought up?

Also, does anyone have further pictures showing the way the flags were really treated, besides those couple that have been circulating?
44 posted on 09/06/2008 8:42:42 PM PDT by BobbyT
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To: Blood of Tyrants

bttt


45 posted on 09/06/2008 8:43:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: doug from upland

I remember when I first saw the pictures of the discarded flags at Invesco. If I had a flag from a convention, I would want to save it as a souvenir. I still have the first flag to fly on my car after 9-11. It’s a keepsake. Tattered by the wind.


46 posted on 09/06/2008 8:45:31 PM PDT by Huck (Olbermann's a sissy. Just like Chrissy.)
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To: madison10

But whatever you do do NOT say they are unpatriotic.


47 posted on 09/06/2008 8:46:58 PM PDT by South40
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To: doug from upland
You need to sell one of them on eBay. If you need help writing the script, it will be a pleasure! Or, I will list it as long as I know it can be delivered to the winning bidder. Are you in?

I'm having trouble figuring out how to make the NEA look like something anyone would want to buy. Same problem for Dept of Education, Dept of Energy, and the rest of them. Any ideas.

Seriously, I wonder if we could do this as a spoof. Sell a certificate (that carries no rights) entitling the user to put crosses in urine--cool stuff like that. Or that entitles the buyer, as honorary secretary of education to dumb down any three subjects of his or her choice any say anything he wants (so long as it is nasty) about his choice of any three of the following American Presidents, George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan.

Make it clear the proceeds were to be donated to McCain/Palin.

We could also sell an evening with William Ayer's, well a William Ayers lookalike. Discuss how to launch your political career . . . There are actually some agitprop possibilities here.

48 posted on 09/06/2008 8:47:01 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: doug from upland

This is going to hurt them bigtime and they know it.Low lifes.


49 posted on 09/06/2008 8:56:32 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: doug from upland
Don't forget, this happened four years ago at the last rat convention.
50 posted on 09/06/2008 9:14:01 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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