Skip to comments.The Rudy Giuliani Truth File (in his own words---quotes, speeches, transcripts, clips, reports)
Posted on 09/07/2008 4:26:11 AM PDT by Liz
Jim Robinson thread
This is the start of a series of threads that will be used to expose the truth about Rudy Giuliani in his own words and deeds. Please post all of the quotes, speeches, interview transcripts, video clips, photos, newspaper/magazine articles, reports, records, statistics regarding:
---NYC budgets, NYC spending, political appointments, gun grabs, connections to the gun control lobby, lawsuits against gun manufacturers,
---the truth about crime reduction in NYC,
---private property grabs, asset forfeitures, abuses of office, individual rights trampling, constitution trampling,
---violations of public trust, violations of the rule of law, national security risks, failures in security preparedness prior to and after 911,
---corruption, graft, bribes, favors, union dealings, mob dealings,
---business dealings leveraged through government contracts and contacts, rainmaking for his business partners,
---connections to US, Middle East or South American oil and energy companies and law firms that have profited and or will profit from Giuliani's government offices especially if he becomes president, war profiteering, his personal and business finances,
---his train wreck of a private life and lack of character, lack of qualifications for high office,
---illegal alien sanctuaries, welfare for illegals, pandering to illegals/illegal alien lobby,
---support for the abortion and gay rights lobbies, NARAL connections and participation, past and current support for McCain-Feingold,
---connections and dealings with liberal officeholders or the liberal/socialist caucuses/lobbies, etc, etc, etc, that you can find.
EXCERPT Rudy Giuliani was never a conservative of any kind. As Kate OBeirne pointed out in a recent National Review analysis, Giuliani was endorsed for mayor in 1989 by the Liberal Party, which said of him: He agreed with the Liberal Partys views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer, and tuition tax credits.
In 1992, OBeirne reports, Giuliani said Nelson Rockefeller represented a tradition in the Republican Party Ive worked to rekindlethe Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition.
The Republican Party is in trouble today not because it has drifted away from Rockefeller Republicanism, but because it is drifting back toward it.
The conservative vision is comprehensive. It believes in limited government, traditional values, and a foreign policy that looks at our national interests with cold, clear eyes and works aggressively to defend them. Since the Republican Party unambiguously embraced this vision with the election of Ronald Reagan as President in 1980 it has lost only one presidential election, and has become the majority party in Congress.
The one presidential election that was lostby the senior President Bushcame after Bush had turned his back on core conservative values. In recent years, many Republicans have begun again to betray these values. That is why the GOP congressional majority is vulnerable in this Novembers election.
The job of conservatives between now and then, and through the next election cycle, will be to take our party back----not to hand it over to Rudy Giuliani (or to Joe Lieberman).
What exactly is the point of posting this now?
I think to show a lack of grey matter.
On your part maybe.
Stirring up crap for no good reason.
You won, he lost. People like me that did initially support him have accepted defeat and have been humble in doing so.
The guy gave one of the best speeches at the convention, he helped rally the troops and you want to stick in a knife. Absurd.
On my part? You obviously misread my post. I think this is idiotic in the extreme to post this now.
When Guiliani laughed at Paul for saying government should respect limits on governmental power - that was the moment I wanted Rudy defeated so soundly he would never run again.
Now, to the extent Rudy is helpful in preventing Obama from winning, that’s great.
Sorry, I meant the original author.
Nice Liz, lets stir up some old issues that only divide us right now. Hes not the nominee, hes doing what he has to to help beat 0bama, so let it go.
We handed it over to a liberal coddling, rinoistic, back stabbing, "maverick" whose past actions shun converatives and conservative values! Now, with Palin on board we have at least a chance to effect change in the Presidential canidate.
There is no doubt conservatives have to wrest control from the GOP/RNC moderates. Half a conservatvie is no conservative! McCain hit a grand slam with Palin, but it's only going to work for him if he governs like her!
Let’s here from Liz... before y’all go off the deep end with criticism. One point she might be making is that we don’t want Rudy for Attorney General no matter how well he spoke at the convention.
Well, are you going to come back and defend your reason for posting this or hide?
Forgot courtesy ping.. sorry about that.
“This is the start of a series of threads that will be used to expose the truth about Rudy Giuliani in his own words and deeds.”
I’m confused. I didn’t know he’s running for office against Obama. Please explain.
Now if your thread read like this, it might be worth our energy:
“This is the start of a series of threads that will be used to expose the truth about Barack Hussein Obama in his own words and deeds.”
She had every opportunity to do that in post #1. She chose not to. And it’s been over 10 min. since she posted.
Dig this up so he won’t hold a cabinet position when McCain/Palin win? He sure helped the other night at the convention - he is far from perfect but aren’t we all?
I think I’m missing something.
Getting a little bit ahead of ourselves here, aren't we people? Never assume anything until it actually happens. McCain should be running like he's 10 points behind until election day, and so should we.
Forget about Rudy or anyone else and WIN this thing first!
The date of the original thread is 4/25/07.
Don’t know what to think.
Someone hack Liz’s account?
The time for anything like that is between Nov 5th and Jan 15th, NOT NOW!
Can we have that argument after we win the flippin' election???
I’m still hoping that Fred Thompson will get into the race. Think he’ll announce soon?
Google is your friend.
couldn’t agree more.
I don’t like Rudy either but he’s history.
Why dont we wait until McCain wins before we worry about who is going to be AG?
Liz Hanover strikes again. Need a little attention?
Looks like Clinton has the democratic nomination.
McCain/Palin is the ticket.
You need to get a life.
Guess we don;t want him as U.S. A.G. or on the Supreme Court.
>>Guess we don;t want him as U.S. A.G. or on the Supreme Court.<<
I sure as hell don’t.
Obviously the main focus is on winning the election but it might be worth a small signal to McCain not to promise too much to Guiliani.
Yup. I like Romney. But I don;t like that Lindsey Graham character, nor Bill Frist nor Brownback either.
That's what I would like to know. At a time when we seek party unity this is devisive.
We did not nominate that RINO.
All the good things about Gov. Palin notwithstanding, there is a RINO on top of the ticket who is Giuliani's equal in his lack of respect for the Constitution.
Wholesale purges are a bad idea. When JimRob or the mods ban somebody it should be on a one on one basis.
Let’s deal with AG after McCain is President. 2006 showed the GOP what putting aside their base could do. They will remember. But this isn’t a uniting post. Liberals and Obama are still public enemy #1. If we eat our young and argue over cabinet posts before winning the election, the divisions may lead to the DEMS in office.
Wonder what infraction of ideological purity will be worthy of a ban next time?
We haven't recovered from the last purge, as far as I'm concerned. There will always be those whose brains go haywire when confronted with an opposing view, but you'd think that's the point of a discussion forum.
Liz is shinning a light in a darkened room looking for RinoRudy supporters scurrying about in his defense. Purge targets are being acquired.
Well, I guess that explains the red dot on my chest. ;)
For whatever reason, Liz has taken up trolling for a hobby.
This can serve no positive purpose that I can see, and I hope the mods spot it and lock / delete the thread.
This would be a good discussion if we win and appointments are pending...
If Obama wins we could be seeing Attorney General Ramsey Clark again or someone like Marjorie Cohn (President of the commie front National Lawyers Guild).
Have you considered having a real life?
Free Republic still hasn't recovered from the last purge. We don't need another.