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Biden says election about Obama and McCain
The Hill ^ | September 7, 2008 | Jared Allen

Posted on 09/07/2008 11:42:43 AM PDT by jazusamo

Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, called his rival Sarah Palin a “tough, smart women”, but said the election will come down to the presidential candidates.

“You know, it's early in the process and the voters are going to make judgments about Sarah Palin and Joe Biden,” said the Delaware senator, making his 42nd appearance Sunday on NBC’s ‘Meet the Press’. “But the truth is they're mostly going to make judgments about Barack Obama and John McCain.”

Biden said Palin delivered “a number” of great lines during her introduction at the Republican National Convention, but said Americans still don’t know her positions on a multitude of issues. He suggested that increased scrutiny of Palin’s policy positions on issues such as Iraq, the economy and healthcare could put an end to the honeymoon she is experiencing now.

“Look, she's a smart, tough politician, and so I, I think she's going to be very formidable,” Biden said. “But you know, eventually she's going to have to sit in front of you like I'm doing and have done. Eventually she's going to have to answer questions and not be sequestered. Eventually she's going to have to answer questions about her record.”

Palin passed on making the rounds on any Sunday shows this weekend.

Biden, the running mate of Sen. Obama (D-Ill.), also downplayed the impact Palin will have helping Sen. McCain (Ariz.), the Republican presidential nominee, court women voters who supported Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) for president.

“You know, I think it's kind of demeaning to suggest that all women are going to vote for a woman just because she's a woman even when she's diametrically opposed to everything Hillary stands for,” Biden said. “I mean, I hear this talk about, you know, is she going to pick up Hillary voters? Well, I--so far I haven't heard one single policy position, one single position that she has in common with Hillary. So I, I just think, you know, all folks are a little more discriminating than just merely whether or not it's the same sex or the same ethnicity or whatever. But we'll see, we'll see. The truth is, I don't know.”

Biden also sought to take the focus of the race to the White House off of himself and Palin – who almost certainly contributed to the healthy bump in the polls that Sen. McCain and his running mate have received.

“Vice presidents are useful, but we're not, we're not determinative,” Biden said.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008veep; biden; mccain; mccainpalin; obama; obamabiden; palin
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Sounds like Plugs has gotten the word to zip his lip.
1 posted on 09/07/2008 11:42:44 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Who did he say this too? He needs to tell Obama. Double teaming the Barracuda doesn’t work anyway.


2 posted on 09/07/2008 11:45:09 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (McCain/Palin '08! Real change you won't have to "believe in." You'll be able to see it!!!)
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To: jazusamo
HEY JOE: You are done!!!!
3 posted on 09/07/2008 11:46:02 AM PDT by Gator_that_eats_Dems
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To: jazusamo

B Hussein Obama blurts out...he is a Muslim!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zQK_EhDhZQ


4 posted on 09/07/2008 11:46:16 AM PDT by ajay_kumar (It is the economy stupid!)
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To: jazusamo
Biden said. “I mean, I hear this talk about, you know, is she going to pick up Hillary voters? Well, I--so far I haven't heard one single policy position, one single position that she has in common with Hillary. So I, I just think, you know, all folks are a little more discriminating than just merely whether or not it's the same sex or the same ethnicity or whatever. But we'll see, we'll see. The truth is, I don't know.”

Schmidt knows, and the longer the RATS keep talking about her being a woman, the better it's going to be. The best advice to you is to STHU, but we know you can't do that so keep giving all the PUMA's more reason to vote for Palin and we'll send you a Starbucks card after we win the election for all of your help.

5 posted on 09/07/2008 11:47:56 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (OBAMA: He was a flop before he became a flipper.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Strange that Barack talks about taking Sarah on the Basketball court on the same day Joe says the race is between Barack and McCain. Hmmm.....do they even talk to each other?


6 posted on 09/07/2008 11:48:12 AM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: jazusamo
“Vice presidents are useful, but we're not, we're not determinative,” Biden said.

Trying to downplay the Palin effect.

Biden realizes he is going to be forever tied to Obama and his fraudulent run for the Presidency.
7 posted on 09/07/2008 11:48:18 AM PDT by Mr. Binnacle (Obama/Biden: Just Brown Noise and Static)
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To: jazusamo

Sounds like he’s already distancing himself from the impending train wreck....


8 posted on 09/07/2008 11:48:48 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Fire mission!)
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To: jazusamo
could put an end to the honeymoon she is experiencing now

What rock has Biden been living under?

9 posted on 09/07/2008 11:50:01 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: jazusamo
Biden says election about Obama and McCain

LOL!!!

Looks like Joe "Neil Kinnock" Biden is trying to administer a
vaccine before he receives a semi-trailer load of "Whoop-@$$"
from The Barracuda!
10 posted on 09/07/2008 11:52:21 AM PDT by VOA
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To: indianrightwinger

Right now, I think most in the “Obama Camp” are talking to themselves trying to figure out what just hit them. LOL!!!


11 posted on 09/07/2008 11:52:21 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (McCain/Palin '08! Real change you won't have to "believe in." You'll be able to see it!!!)
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To: kcvl

LOL! In his heart he doesn’t believe that.


12 posted on 09/07/2008 11:54:27 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo
"Biden says election about Obama and McCain."

Wow! This guy is very perceptive.

13 posted on 09/07/2008 11:55:07 AM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: jazusamo
Biden says election about Obama and McCain

President McCain has already stated that Vice President Palin will play an active role in his administration with duties beyond that of the VP position, something possibly along the lines of an "Energy Czar" or the like.

It's Biden will be relegated to "third leg" status.

However the election in McCain's case is very much about Vice President Palin.

14 posted on 09/07/2008 11:55:43 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: VOA

Yes, he’s like a deer in the headlights. :)


15 posted on 09/07/2008 11:56:19 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo
“But the truth is they're mostly going to make judgments about Barack Obama and John McCain.”

Wow.

Just wow.

The Democrats are WAAAY off message -- the McCAIN campaign is the one who wants to see the personal comparison of McCain and Obama!

16 posted on 09/07/2008 12:00:11 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (This gun for hire)
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To: jazusamo

I saw a few seconds of Plugs and had to calm my gag reflex. But the good news is that you know he’s going to “step in it” during the debates. (and have you ever seen such a gaseous blowhard?)


17 posted on 09/07/2008 12:00:58 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: VOA; Grampa Dave
Looks like Joe "Neil Kinnock" Biden is trying to administer a vaccine before he receives a semi-trailer load of "Whoop-@$$" from The Barracuda!

EXACTLY what I was thinkin'. Ol' Joe trying to point the other way before he gets his a## whipped in the VP debate, and trying to turn away the unstoppable tide that Hurricane Sarah has already brought crashing down on liberal shores.

18 posted on 09/07/2008 12:00:58 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: jazusamo

Palin is shining! The GOP is alive and Biden is the OLD plug candidate.


19 posted on 09/07/2008 12:02:02 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: indianrightwinger

Yeah, a game of “horse” vs. one-on-one.


20 posted on 09/07/2008 12:02:04 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: Mr. Binnacle

You’re right. When Hillary reclaims the mantle of the Democratic Party leader after the Obama canidacy implodes, Biden will be lucky to scrub toilets for the Party.


21 posted on 09/07/2008 12:02:41 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: BOBTHENAILER

What is funny, is how the girly oreo, Snobami, is attacking Sarah instead of John.

The rats internal polls and focus groups must be showing that Sarah has ripped the girly oreo, Snobami, several new ones and has really hurt him.


22 posted on 09/07/2008 12:04:17 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah Palin!)
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To: sarasota

The debates should be a hoot, I’m sure he won’t be able to keep his mouth under control.


23 posted on 09/07/2008 12:04:39 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo
"So I, I just think, you know, all folks are a little more discriminating than just merely whether or not it's the same sex or the same ethnicity or whatever. But we'll see, we'll see. The truth is, I don't know.”

With what % of blacks saying they will vote for Obama, what exactly is ol' Joe trying to say here?

24 posted on 09/07/2008 12:06:38 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: jazusamo; Squantos; Travis McGee; Joe Brower; tubebender; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; BOBTHENAILER; ...
"Yes, he’s like a deer in the headlights. :)"




25 posted on 09/07/2008 12:08:20 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah Palin!)
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To: jazusamo

“But the truth is they’re mostly going to make judgments about Barack Obama (”I’m a muzlim”) and John McCain (I’m a maverick”).”


26 posted on 09/07/2008 12:10:01 PM PDT by Canedawg (Sarah Palin Rocks! McCain-Palin '08)
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To: jazusamo

I’m going to plan my entire day around the debates. Plugs will shrink before our very eyes.


27 posted on 09/07/2008 12:10:06 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: jazusamo

[Eventually she’s going to have to answer questions about her record.”]

...AND SO ARE YOU PLUGBOY.


28 posted on 09/07/2008 12:10:27 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I haven't got the slightest idea what he's trying to say but he put in there the same sex.
29 posted on 09/07/2008 12:11:11 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Grampa Dave
The rats internal polls and focus groups must be showing that Sarah has ripped the girly oreo, Snobami, several new ones and has really hurt him.

Not only their internals, but almost all the suspect MSM polls show it too. The Titanic has been ripped and is taking on water fast.

Man the lifeboats sayeth Captain Obamination, ME first, RAT officers second, all remaining lib's third, women and children last.

30 posted on 09/07/2008 12:13:25 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Grampa Dave

Good one, Dave! I love that pic.


31 posted on 09/07/2008 12:14:17 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Grampa Dave
I think the proper phrase is "Biden looks like a moose in the headlights."
32 posted on 09/07/2008 12:18:07 PM PDT by MathDoc
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

Looks a little greasy...


33 posted on 09/07/2008 12:26:36 PM PDT by tubebender (Why does a round pizza come in a square box?)
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To: jazusamo
I haven't got the slightest idea what he's trying to say but he put in there the same sex.

My point is that he sticking his liberal foot in his mouth no matter what. On the one hand, he's trying to say that women aren't all gonna vote for Sarah, just because she's a woman (he hopes). Then he gratuitously throws in ethnicity, as if to say that ehtnic voters won't all vote for Barak, just because he's part black/arab, whatever.

Last poll I saw gave the Obamination a 90/10 or at worse an 80/20 margin in the black community. So, Joe Biden, are you saying something bad about blacks for voting in these stunning proportions, or are you saying that women are stupid for not voting the same way. Or are you trying to sway women away from voting for Sarah, by making them feel part of a herd mentality if they do?

He created more questions than he tried to answer and none of them are good for him. The only thing he said right is "I don't know

34 posted on 09/07/2008 12:28:01 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: jazusamo

RCP Avg. has changed in the last 6 hours!
McCain is closing fast and has the Big MO!

Election 2008 Obama McCain Spread
RCP National Average 46.0 45.2 Obama +0.8


35 posted on 09/07/2008 12:33:53 PM PDT by G Larry (Our VP has more executive experience than B.O.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Yes, thanks for elaborating. When I read it the first time I was wondering who he got the part about all women voting for her because she's a woman from, just another example of him running his mouth.
36 posted on 09/07/2008 12:36:27 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

I’ve seen Joe Biden on several milk cartons recently...


37 posted on 09/07/2008 12:42:40 PM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: jazusamo

I just saw a replay of Biden on MTP, he looked like a walking zombie, I’ve never seen bags under anyone’s eyes look that bad, and the makeup made him look worse. I mean it, anyone who watched that show had to see what I did. On the other side there’s Sarah, who always looks great.


38 posted on 09/07/2008 12:50:14 PM PDT by moose2004 (Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill And Then Drill Some More)
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To: MaestroLC

LOL! Those will increase in numbers.


39 posted on 09/07/2008 12:50:39 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: moose2004

Thanks...Sounds like he hasn’t been sleeping very well, wonder why? :)


40 posted on 09/07/2008 12:53:11 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Mashood

Richardson as well!


41 posted on 09/07/2008 1:17:38 PM PDT by Mr. Binnacle (Obama/Biden: Just Brown Noise and Static)
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To: jazusamo

Does anyone else get the distinct feeling that Biden is trying to take the focus off the vice-presidential candidates for a reason? Perhaps he doesn’t want anyone delving too deeply into either his family and/or his past.


42 posted on 09/07/2008 1:41:35 PM PDT by Larry381 (A community in Chicago is missing an Indonesian organizer from Kenya)
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Biden says election about Obama and McCain

lol...they'd like that....that little pretty thang has got those big tough guys on the run....I love this....it's like a nice duck hunt when the greenheads just keep falling in that honey hole....it doesn't get any better than this.

Magnus must be very proud.

43 posted on 09/07/2008 1:44:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama/Pol Pot 2008)
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To: Larry381

I think you make a good point. If any non leftist journalists start probing Biden’s past half as much as Sarah Palin’s he could be in big trouble.


44 posted on 09/07/2008 1:59:45 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: wardaddy

It is a thing to behold. They know she’s not afraid of them or the enemedia from her recent past as the Alaska guv. LOL


45 posted on 09/07/2008 2:02:17 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

This kind of talk doesn’t suprise me, did any see Bob Beckel and Ellen Ratner on Fox News Wednesday morning? They were already saying (Praying) that Palin would disappear after Wed. night. The slightly more intelligent Dems knew by midweek they needed her to just fade into the background. Luckily for us the other 99.99999% are total idiots and will happily keep her in the limelight.


46 posted on 09/07/2008 3:19:41 PM PDT by redk
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To: redk

I didn’t see that. Beckel is on FNC often but I haven’t seen Ellen Ratner for a long time. Don’t know whether I’ve just missed her or she’s been away from Fox.


47 posted on 09/07/2008 3:28:14 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

Can’t wait for the debate with Sarah and biden.

Who is assigned the task of cleaning up Biden pieces after she gets done with him?


48 posted on 09/07/2008 4:01:05 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: jazusamo; All

Even if Biden WERE right, Palin is still a big plus for McCain while Biden BRINGS NOTHING TO Obama; which, reflects on the wisdom of McCain and the lack thereof of Obama!!!


49 posted on 09/07/2008 4:07:13 PM PDT by Wuli
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...or the lack thereof of Obama!!!......
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You are assuming that BO had ANYTHING to do with the selection.....

If McCain had ANY idea this would so completely disrupt the D’s, he would have named her 6 months ago.....of course now they have just about enough time to self destruct by the time the election rolls around....


50 posted on 09/07/2008 4:11:33 PM PDT by xrmusn ( True gun control is hitting what you aim at.)
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