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Drawing a Bead on the Press
The New York Times ^ | September 7, 2008 (Print: September 8, 2008) | David Carr

Posted on 09/07/2008 8:03:58 PM PDT by Gondring

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David Carr seems to get it...somewhat.

How did this slip through?

1 posted on 09/07/2008 8:03:58 PM PDT by Gondring
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To: Gondring

NYT running for cover?


2 posted on 09/07/2008 8:09:35 PM PDT by airedale ( XZ)
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To: Gondring; xzins

Wow.


3 posted on 09/07/2008 8:10:59 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Gondring

They are probably planning a real hit job on her and printed this so they could claim they are “balanced”. Although that’s rarely been necessary before.


4 posted on 09/07/2008 8:13:37 PM PDT by I still care
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To: Gondring
People like Carr and the rest of the cretins at NYT make me proud to be from rural fly-over country.

They can all pound salt.

5 posted on 09/07/2008 8:13:38 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: Gondring
David Carr seems to get it...somewhat.

How did this slip through?

I think Mr. Carr's wife informed him he better treat Sarah with respect.

If not, the sofa would need reupholstering before he would be allowed to return to the bedroom.

:)

6 posted on 09/07/2008 8:13:58 PM PDT by Chuck54 ("You can't vote 'PRESENT' in the Oval Office". J.R. Dunn)
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To: Gondring

Aptly titled by the NY Slimes.


7 posted on 09/07/2008 8:16:02 PM PDT by wastedyears (Single dudes for hockey moms.)
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To: Gondring
“How can I be sure that you won’t take my words and twist them to suit some agenda that you already have?”

The jig is up, MSM/DBM.

8 posted on 09/07/2008 8:16:36 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (The beauty of conservatism, Sarah Palin.)
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To: Gondring

Bravo Sierra. This is nothing but forced self-deprecation by a representative of a narcissistic pseudo-profession as a tool to disarm the rubes. This guy’s article is too precious for words, but no one should take this seriously. IMHO


9 posted on 09/07/2008 8:16:53 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Gondring

The backlash against the media’s anti-Palin jihad seems to have rattled a few cages. Looks like the NYT is going to retract its fangs and lie low for a bit.


10 posted on 09/07/2008 8:16:54 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Gondring; All
NYT's TP
11 posted on 09/07/2008 8:17:08 PM PDT by musicman (Sarah Palin Runs A STATE - Barack Obama Runs His MOUTH)
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To: Gondring

Hey David Carr. Eat me.


12 posted on 09/07/2008 8:17:30 PM PDT by shaft29 (Just your typical black woman.)
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To: Chuck54

I think America saw a decent honest Conservative for the first time since RWR left office and they really really liked what they saw. The cognizant Left ( granted, a small minority ) is wetting their panties.


13 posted on 09/07/2008 8:21:10 PM PDT by gost2
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Is this the guy that used to play QB for the Texans? LOL


14 posted on 09/07/2008 8:21:10 PM PDT by amishman (Barack Obama=Jim Jones)
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To: shaft29

It’s actually David Carr’s colleagues who are the problem...read the whole piece and he actually makes Republicans sound vaguely human.


15 posted on 09/07/2008 8:22:20 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
better suited to be a calendar model for a local auto body shop than a holder of the second-highest office in the land.

These elitists despise average American people.

Let some of those people (like Palin) do something extraordinary and they become apoplectic.

The modern MSM is full of scum and they hate us.

And the feeling is mutual.

16 posted on 09/07/2008 8:22:58 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: Gondring
Ms. Palin, a woman who clearly understands the power of words, had a way of pronouncing media — “MEE-de-ah” — that made it sound like something legless and slithering.

If it wasnt the NYSLIMES being disengenuous, this would be my quote of the day.

17 posted on 09/07/2008 8:23:02 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Interesting Times
The backlash against the media’s anti-Palin jihad seems to have rattled a few cages. Looks like the NYT is going to retract its fangs and lie low for a bit.

I think you're right. They are going to try a bit more subtlety in their hit pieces now.

18 posted on 09/07/2008 8:23:33 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
They seem to have gotten the message, but like I said on an earlier thread,

"You can't un-ring a bell" - Paul Harvey.

19 posted on 09/07/2008 8:23:59 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Obviously, liberals can't handle a strong, independent woman.)
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To: amishman

Both of ‘em are losers! LOL.

David Carr of Houston Texans fame is actually a good guy, he’s just a terrible quarterback.


20 posted on 09/07/2008 8:25:04 PM PDT by 38special (I mean come on.)
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To: Gondring

Did anyone see Rick Sanchez tonight discussing Sarah Palin? Rich Sanchez said that the McCain camp had referred to Obama as Jesus and Mrs.Palin, like Pontius Pilot, govenor. I thought I read an article on FR today which quoted Donna Barzile as saying that. As a matter of fact I believe the Youtube video of that was posted. In a hit-piece by Sanchez tonight he attributed that to the McCain camp. Does anyone have a chronology on this?


21 posted on 09/07/2008 8:29:15 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Gondring
“Conservatives have a bad history with The New York Times,” she said, looking at my press ID, still smiling and still very friendly. “How can I be sure that you won’t take my words and twist them to suit some agenda that you already have?”

If this was all I knew about Palin - that she was able to confront this man in a firm but honest fashion - she would have my vote../

22 posted on 09/07/2008 8:32:21 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Vegetarian" - Old Indian word for "bad hunter")
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To: Texas Songwriter

“I’m working on an answer because I don’t think it is the last time that question is going to come up.”

Yeah.

Good luck with that.


23 posted on 09/07/2008 8:33:05 PM PDT by null and void (When you're banging your forehead on the ground five times a day, it rattles your brain.)
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To: Gondring
Not a bad piece. Since they are selectively choosing who interviews her, you think everyone is trying to put on a "nice" face so they, too, can interview the next VP? Some classic lines in this though, for instance: ...is it O.K. to wear fur as long as you killed the animal yourself?
24 posted on 09/07/2008 8:33:17 PM PDT by RedBloodedTexan (Great minds like a think.)
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To: Texas Songwriter

I’ve seen something similar as a bumper sticker:

Jesus was a Community Organizer;
Pontius Pilate was a Governor.


25 posted on 09/07/2008 8:34:07 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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Drawing a Bead on the Press

Waste of ammo.

26 posted on 09/07/2008 8:34:38 PM PDT by RichInOC (McCain/Palin '08: And Now For Something Completely Different.)
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To: GOPJ

The words were by a supporter of Palin, not Palin.


27 posted on 09/07/2008 8:35:20 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Palin is so good at playing the media because she IS the media. She has a degree in journalism and worked as a TV broadcaster. As an insider, she knows the profession’s vulnerabilities.


28 posted on 09/07/2008 8:35:53 PM PDT by TroutFishingInAmerica ("I remember, with particular amusement, men in three-cornered hats, fishing in the dawn")
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To: RichInOC
"Drawing a Bead on the Press"

And if that doesn't work, fix bayonets and charge.
29 posted on 09/07/2008 8:37:50 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: P-Marlowe

They’re only being nice because of the polls. They realized that the 24/7 slime wasn’t working. Now they’re going to turn to the “polite with a stiletto” tactic.


30 posted on 09/07/2008 8:40:52 PM PDT by xzins (ZerObama: zero executive, military, or international experience)
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She has a degree in journalism and worked as a TV broadcaster. As an insider, she knows the profession’s vulnerabilities.

That is a brilliant observation! I read that she had worked for a TV station but you just connected the dots and made the light bulb appear above my head. Wow, they have NO idea what they're in for. This could get really fun to watch.
31 posted on 09/07/2008 8:42:49 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: wastedyears
Aptly titled by the NY Slimes.

I'm surprised a gun control nut at the New York Times would even know what the phrase meant ...

32 posted on 09/07/2008 8:45:20 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Vegetarian" - Old Indian word for "bad hunter")
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To: Gondring

The NYT is scaling back their vitriol against Palin. Perhaps it’s because they know obama is done and that Palin is the next VP. They want to ensure some access to the future McCain admin.


33 posted on 09/07/2008 8:45:23 PM PDT by Vision Thing (obambi vs. McZilla)
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“Jesus was a Community Organizer”

Not for a hard left operation like ACORN, which registers dead people to vote Democrat.


34 posted on 09/07/2008 8:45:58 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Texas Songwriter

I don’t have a chronology but I saw the quote posted at the DUmp several days ago. Like Campbell Brown, it’s been everywhere.


35 posted on 09/07/2008 8:46:51 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (diogeneticistical...esque...ish...)
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To: GOPJ

The lady who asked that question of the reporter was not Palin. Instead, it was a delegate.


36 posted on 09/07/2008 8:49:56 PM PDT by Vision Thing (obambi vs. McZilla)
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“Jesus was a Community Organizer”

LOL! Yeah but Jesus raised the dead, ACORN just registers the dead to vote for democrats.
37 posted on 09/07/2008 8:52:34 PM PDT by Tailback
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I agree. This was an overall positive piece.

Remember, libs are more interested in money than principle. They are beginning to lose money...


38 posted on 09/07/2008 8:57:45 PM PDT by Hootch (Another perspective)
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To: Vision Thing

I thought this artice was pretty well balanced so I sent the following message to David Carr:

“David, thanks for your balanced report on Mrs. Palin. Conservatives don’t expect praise only from the media, but we do want truth and we want all candidates held to similar standards and vetting. I am grateful that your report appears to meet these criteria. Even if not all can agree with Sarah’s political or social positions, isn’t it clear that that she is a remarkable woman, probably representative of many, many others who balance work and family. Can’t we all celebrate that?”

He responded almost immediately with the following:

” I think her choices — with five hungry kids, I personally would have never fired the chef — will resonate huge with the public. we have not seen the likes of her in national politics.

thanks for kind note.”

Perhaps some writers, even those with the “Slimes,” can be encouraged with positive responses when warranted. Remember the Bible says that a kind word turns away wrath.

Go Sarah!!!!!


39 posted on 09/07/2008 8:58:16 PM PDT by BienHoa69-70 RVN
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To: Gondring

I don’t get why in the same sentence it’s SENATOR Clinton and MS Palin - but not Governor Palin. Every article has her as Ms Palin - not Mrs. OR Gov.

Bugs me...


40 posted on 09/07/2008 9:08:57 PM PDT by repubmom (Proud Army Mom of two soldiers - Psalm 91)
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To: Vision Thing

You’re right. Thanks.


41 posted on 09/07/2008 9:12:30 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Vegetarian" - Old Indian word for "bad hunter")
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Between this one and the new frontpage article that’s going to be on the Monday morning edition...

Trying to disprove that they are biased????


42 posted on 09/07/2008 9:18:50 PM PDT by STFrancis
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>>>David Carr seems to get it...somewhat.
How did this slip through?<<<

I’m a former newspaperman. In fact, I worked in Wasilla when Sarah Palin was on the city council. I quit in disgust because of the unrelenting leftist politics... but that’s another post. Here’s my response to the idea that David Carr gets it.

Newspapers are, at their core, businesses. They need readers to stay alive. For the past 15 years, the print media has been dying of anemia as readers slowly drain away and move to other sources of news. The Times is a husk of what it used to be when I read it religiously back in the early 1970s, and they know it, and many publishers, editors, and reporters already know that the reason readers are leaving stems from the notion of “advocacy journalism,” which almost always means “leftwing advocacy.”

Since most of us aren’t leftists, readers get bored, disinterested, disgusted, or supremely pissed off. They’re looking at Limbaugh and O’Reilly and Drudge and wondering how they can do it, too.

Eventually, they will either adapt or die. Many will be unwilling to give up their leftist beliefs, and those papers will go the way of poetry readings and the village crier. Some will gain of glimmer of understanding and start opening their newsrooms to journalists who reflect their readers.

My frank assessment of the Times is it is too late to provide the token conservative viewpoint and hope for increased readership. Too many readers have been burned too many times. Palin, though, for the left, must feel like being dragged through the gauntlet.

This moment in our nation’s history feels to me like the watershed moment when the left is finally going to pop like the empty balloon it is. The popping noise will probably sound more like a fart, though. Stink bad, too. LOL


43 posted on 09/07/2008 9:19:47 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: GonzoGOP
"Drawing a Bead on the Press"...And if that doesn't work, fix bayonets and charge.
....How 'bout Pitchforks and / or Clubs....pointed sticks
44 posted on 09/07/2008 9:23:12 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (If you aren't "advancing" your arguments,your losing "the battle of Ideas"...libs,hates the facts 8^)
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To: BienHoa69-70 RVN
Thank you for being an "activist" and taking the time to contact the author.

"We have not seen the likes of her in national politics."

Indeed. Even the Times is forced to realize we have a candidate of enormous appeal and authenticity.

45 posted on 09/07/2008 9:23:38 PM PDT by GVnana ("The American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery.")
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To: BOBTHENAILER

Yes that is the way it’s said here and we mean it to sound that way!


46 posted on 09/07/2008 9:25:39 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: redpoll
I’m a former newspaperman....This moment in our nation’s history feels to me like the watershed moment when the left is finally going to pop like the empty balloon it is.....Thanks, very illuminating.
47 posted on 09/07/2008 9:31:28 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (If you aren't "advancing" your arguments,your losing "the battle of Ideas"...libs,hates the facts 8^)
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To: BienHoa69-70 RVN

Dang. Just dang. He ADMIRES her.

He may even has an inkling of her as a probable historic, long remembered figure.

This is really not going to go over well among the chattering classes. I know many who will choke on their coffee tomorrow morning, around Eastern Time.


48 posted on 09/07/2008 9:32:15 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Texas Songwriter

Sanchez has a drinking problem and is a full blown LOON.


49 posted on 09/07/2008 9:33:31 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: Gondring

I think this is new policy. NYT’s revenues are down. They have to be totally stupid not to see the wave of backlash coming at the media. Maybe even they have said, if you can’t beat them, join them.


50 posted on 09/07/2008 9:42:39 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (If the election were today, Obama would win.........in Europe.)
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