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LAURA INGRAHAM SHOW - Sarah Palin sacrificing family to advance her career?
Laura Ingraham show phone call ^ | 9-8-08 | dfu

Posted on 09/08/2008 10:12:47 AM PDT by doug from upland

Laura Ingraham was discussing the comments of Sally Quinn of Washington Post fame. She is the queen of the Washington elite.

Sally, as have others, has been criticizing Sarah Palin for putting her career ahead of her family. Oh, what happened to women's lib, Sally?

I was able to get through to Laura's show, and she put me on right away. Yes, Sarah's family is going to be put second. But not to her career ----- to the country.

As soldiers and the families of soldiers do every day, Sarah and her family are going to make a substantial sacrifice for their country. Yes, it is going to be tough on them. It is tough on all of those who actually make sacrificies in the defense of this great nation. Sally Quinn and her elitist leftist pals will never understand that.


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1 posted on 09/08/2008 10:12:48 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

Very good point Doug.

I can’t help but believe that the Sally Quinn’s of the country are letting their bitterness get the better of them.

After all, Gov. Palin does have it all...the beautiful family, the handsome mans- man of a husband and the successful career.

The Sally Quinn’s chose career over family. Must burn them to see a more capable woman who really does have it all.


2 posted on 09/08/2008 10:15:43 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: doug from upland

Beautifully stated, Doug!


3 posted on 09/08/2008 10:17:04 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Congrasites = Congressional parasites.)
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To: milford421

Quinn is a hypocrite and any rational, thinking person knows it. If a liberal Democrat with kids at home had been nominated for VP, Quinn would never criticize her for the same reasons she’s been criticizing Palin.


4 posted on 09/08/2008 10:17:53 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: milford421

“I can’t help but believe that the Sally Quinn’s of the country are letting their bitterness get the better of them.”

What if their bitterness is the best of them? I mean, all that they have is bitterness and sycophancy for leftist heroes. I’d rather they tear down conservatives than lift up liberals. I know, it’s a Faustian deal.


5 posted on 09/08/2008 10:18:32 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: doug from upland

And don’t forget, Sally Quinn slept her way to where she is now. If she wants to start a fight, we will finish it.


6 posted on 09/08/2008 10:18:32 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: doug from upland

Great Job! The cancer of America called Liberal/Socialism is dying! :)


7 posted on 09/08/2008 10:20:38 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: Tublecane

“What if their bitterness is the best of them? “

You may be on to something there...


8 posted on 09/08/2008 10:21:01 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: doug from upland
Sally, as have others, has been criticizing Sarah Palin for putting her career ahead of her family

Like my wife asks..."why don't they ever question Obama if he's putting HIS career ahead of his family?"

9 posted on 09/08/2008 10:22:13 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Bobkk47

“Quinn is a hypocrite and any rational, thinking person knows it. If a liberal Democrat with kids at home had been nominated for VP, Quinn would never criticize her for the same reasons she’s been criticizing Palin.”

Correct. Heard nothing from the left when Ferraro, (unknown, completely inexperienced mom from Queens), was nominated.

No criticisms about Pelosi either...


10 posted on 09/08/2008 10:22:58 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: 3AngelaD
“And don’t forget, Sally Quinn slept her way to where she is now”

So did Gloria Steinem. She used Zuckermann from The NY Daily news in order to keep her Ms. magazine alive.

11 posted on 09/08/2008 10:24:05 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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To: doug from upland

Quinn was on O’Reilly’s show retracting her earlier remarks and saying she was wrong. Did Laura mention that?


12 posted on 09/08/2008 10:24:16 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-McCain/Palin 08)
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To: doug from upland
Sarah is a great American.

Oh, and you too Doug! :-)

13 posted on 09/08/2008 10:26:34 AM PDT by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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To: doug from upland

How about Obama’s two kids with BOTH parents working


14 posted on 09/08/2008 10:28:19 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: milford421
I can’t help but believe that the Sally Quinn’s of the country are letting their bitterness get the better of them.

They are bitterly clinging to their keyboards and Little Red Books...............

15 posted on 09/08/2008 10:31:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you're not part of the solution, then you must be part of the government............)
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To: doug from upland

That was you?!!! Congrats and well said!

Laura has been absolutely giddy with the pick of Palin!


16 posted on 09/08/2008 10:32:12 AM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan (I'd rather have Palin a hearbeat away from than to have Obama be the heartbeat of the Presidency.)
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To: Red Badger

“They are bitterly clinging to their keyboards and Little Red Books...............”

hehe


17 posted on 09/08/2008 10:32:17 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: doug from upland

Heard you on the radio this AM Doug. But you forgot to tell Laura you thought Palin (and Laura) is hotter than a chicken pot pie.


18 posted on 09/08/2008 10:32:38 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: wmileo

“And don’t forget, Sally Quinn slept her way to where she is now”
So did Gloria Steinem. She used Zuckermann from The NY Daily news in order to keep her Ms. magazine alive.”

I’ve seen both of these woman and that’s just plain nasty, (shudder).


19 posted on 09/08/2008 10:35:38 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Sally Quinn also had a baby with profound health issues.

What in the world is she ranting about. Have to wonder if she’s lost her mind.


20 posted on 09/08/2008 10:35:45 AM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............)
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To: milford421

Quinn is trying to appeal to an assumed narrative that she thinks all Christian conservatives believe of woman and that indeed many do subscribe to...”Its okay for women to have careers but when they have children they need to stay home and raise them while dad does the job thingy....so Palin is not a true Christian woman but a Jezebel” It’s a cynical attempt to try to shear off some support by getting other Christian women to question her true spiritual bonafides (and indeed some will).

Yet that line of reasoning has risks to Obama as other liberal women who do balance careers and family may be very offended by such a line of attack. Quinn herself is no authority on Christian family life!


21 posted on 09/08/2008 10:36:26 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6

You actually give a lot more credit to Quinn than I do on this issue.

I don’t think Quinn has the mental capacity to pull that plan off.


22 posted on 09/08/2008 10:41:42 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: wmileo

I am no Gloria Steinem admirer, but...Gloria Steinem was a celebrity in her own right long before Zuckermann; Sally Quinn was just some cheesy reporter for the Style section (or whatever it was called back then) before she took up with the already married Ben Bradlee and broke up his marriage.


23 posted on 09/08/2008 10:43:52 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: doug from upland

Hey....I heard you this morning!!!! Well done and excelllent point. I appreciate Sarah’s family’s sacrifice on behalf of my children.


24 posted on 09/08/2008 10:47:00 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (I am Sarah Palin. Her story is my story.)
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To: Puppage

Sally, as have others, has been criticizing Sarah Palin for putting her career ahead of her family
Like my wife asks...”why don’t they ever question Obama if he’s putting HIS career ahead of his family?””

Or Hillary Clinton?
Or Bill Clinton?
Or Teddy Kennedy? (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy’s car!)
Or JFK?
Or Madeline Not-so-bright?
Or OR OR OR...


25 posted on 09/08/2008 10:58:18 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: mdmathis6

Its okay for women to have careers but when they have children they need to stay home and raise them while dad does the job thingy....so Palin is not a true Christian woman but a Jezebel” “”

Cannot apply the definition I learned of Jezebel to this statement.
What am I missing?


26 posted on 09/08/2008 11:00:16 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: uncbob

I have a great imagination but I am having a problem visualizing BO braiding the girls’ hair, fiixng a PB&J sandwich, doing the laundry, etc.


27 posted on 09/08/2008 11:08:02 AM PDT by Grams A
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To: doug from upland

I don’t think she is sacrificing her family either. Her husband is taking care of the kids so only one parent is technically working full-time. That’s more time with one parent than most kids in this country have. My husband works full-time and I stay at home (I quit after having children) but he is a wonderful Dad and I am confident that things would be just fine on the home front if we ever needed to switch roles.


28 posted on 09/08/2008 11:14:50 AM PDT by New Girl
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To: SE Mom

I was doing business, but I think Laura has commmented how she has somewhat backed down from her original comments.


29 posted on 09/08/2008 11:50:02 AM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: milford421

No I think she indeed is semi-consciously drawing upon stereo-types she holds concerning the beliefs of conservative Christians, noting what thinks is cognitive dissonance between belief and action on the part of the Christian Palin and calling it hypocrisy! I didn’t say it was totally conscious calculation on her part, mostly emotional first response before she had a chance to muzzle her-self and try to shade her real opinions!


30 posted on 09/08/2008 12:02:03 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: doug from upland

I was critical of Palin when I first heard the news. I still don’t know how they are going to handle everything. My own husband came to her defense and said that she was putting her country first. He then said the dad could handle the home.

I was thinking someone like Kay Baily Hutchison would have been a good VP pick, but after seeing Palin’s acceptance speech I think Palin is the woman we need right now. KBH is certainly capable, but she would not have generated any excitement, and she is a Washington insider.

I guess the good news is that Palin will have excellent access to doctors and therapists for Trig when she is in Washington, DC.


31 posted on 09/08/2008 12:06:47 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: ridesthemiles

No you missed my point. Quinn tried to apply what she thought conservatives thought about the role of woman in an attack upon Palin. She calculated that some traditional
Christian women not see Palin as a “true role model” stay at home mama and thus would not want to vote for her. I was pointing out Quinn’s own stereo-types of conservative Christian women and how she thought they might react by pointing our Palin’s “hypocrisy”!


32 posted on 09/08/2008 12:09:42 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: New Girl

In all fairness, her husband has worked. I don’t know what he’ll do now. So there has not been a parent at home. I don’t know how they are handling the daycare issues.


33 posted on 09/08/2008 12:09:42 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Puppage

Maybe Michelle has put career above family, who knows.

I thought feminists were all about choice. Palin has made choices. It now seems the feminists don’t seem to like her choices or her too much. Funny, back in the 80’s when I chose to be a SAHM they didn’t like my choice either.


34 posted on 09/08/2008 12:19:07 PM PDT by kalee
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To: luckystarmom

Is it our business? I mean we’re the ones who argued that it doesn’t take a village. ;)

Not beating up on you. I had this discussion at church yesterday.


35 posted on 09/08/2008 12:21:33 PM PDT by kalee
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To: mdmathis6
"....Quinn’s own stereo-types of conservative Christian women and how she thought they might react...."

And how the men would react...

Her lies are so apparent for the whole world to see.

36 posted on 09/08/2008 12:29:09 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: New Girl

If you read Dr. Laura’s Books, it is ok to work part time. I think that Palin is an exception, at least she is serving a cause that could save the United States. For the typical women, it’s a different story. Palin has been called, this is not a typical situation. It happens once in awhile. I still say that women should be a little more sensitive to their babies needs. Day care is an awful thing. And most women who allow their careers to cause them to not raise their children end up not being particularly feminine. Palin is the exception, she is still very feminine.


37 posted on 09/08/2008 12:29:16 PM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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To: kalee

First, I don’t think it is any of our business.

I do think there are plenty of women who screw their families and work at all cost just for their own glory. (I know more men who do this.)

I also know of dads who are the stay at home dads. My brother was one of them. He battled cancer for about 25 years, and he never was the bread winner in his family. He passed away a few years ago. His wife was the one who provided. She’s still alive, and she is VP of a company. When my husband passed away, the Boy Scout troop that he was scout master for presented the flag. The members of the baseball team he coached talked about him. They had a non-traditional family, but it worked for them.

I also try to think what values I want to instill in my daughters (and my son). I have a degree in computer science and worked for many years as a software engineer. I gave it up when my son was a baby. I’ve never regretted that decision. I want my daughters to know it is okay to stay at home.

I’ve told them that what Sarah Palin is doing is not something that I personally would choose. However, Palin seems to be the best person for the job right now.

I explained to my daughters that when some people find out they have a down syndrome baby, they don’t keep the babies. One of my daughters’ best friends has a little brother with down syndrome. My daughters are so happy that Palin kept Trig. My daughters are mesmerized by her.

We also talked about her daughter that is pregnant. They’ve asked if she is old enough to have a baby. I told them that I wanted them to go to college first, then get married, and then have a baby. I said I would prefer that, and I thought it would be easier on them if that was the case.

I also told them if they got pregnant when they were a teenager, I would recommend that they give the baby up for adoption. I told them that I think it’s best for a baby to have 2 married adults raise the baby.

I’m having to rethink a lot of my own personal positions, but that’s okay. Palin has shaken up the status quo, and I think she is being a good role model for young ladies (even if it is different from what I would do).


38 posted on 09/08/2008 12:37:43 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

I should have read what I said better.

My husband did not pass away, but my brother did. He was the stay at home dad.


39 posted on 09/08/2008 12:40:40 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

As I said I was not beating up on you.
You and I made decisions based on what we each thought was best for our families and our individual situations.

I have found this whole debate rather amusing to watch as the fems twist themselves inside out and upside down. Which is it? A woman should be able to work as well as be a mother or she should stay home with her children. I thought the whole thing was about choice. Isn’t that what fems have been screaming for all these years. CHOICE! Now there is a woman who has exercised her right to make choices and they have their knickers in a twist becasue they disagree with her choices solely because she is a Conservative.


40 posted on 09/08/2008 12:50:27 PM PDT by kalee
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To: rodeo-mamma
For the typical women, it’s a different story. Palin has been called, this is not a typical situation.

Absolutely is oh so typical.

I would guess that at least 3/4 of the Christian women I know juggle both home and career. They do it with the support and love of their families and the community. This is more easily accomplished in a small town. Dr. Laura is old school metro-mindset and out of touch. The only women who solely stay at home anymore are over the age of 60.

I know one young woman who stays at home and watches soap operas all day but she has multiple sclerosis. There are a few career teachers who stay at home to home school but they volunteer without pay in various organizations until they return to work.

41 posted on 09/08/2008 12:50:37 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: doug from upland

“Yes, Sarah’s family is going to be put second.”

I’m not so sure about that.

Todd Palin strikes me as someone who can fill-in on the parental front.


42 posted on 09/08/2008 12:56:00 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: doug from upland

Sounds like Sally Quinn is a bitter old lesbian.


43 posted on 09/08/2008 12:57:37 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Checkers

I understand. I wonder if the whole family is moving to DC. Or, will she commute? They are not going to get as much of mom’s times as they are used to having.


44 posted on 09/08/2008 12:57:46 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: Earthdweller

I’m in California, and I am a total stay at home mom. I have lots of friends who do not work.

Our kids are getting older now, so some of my friends are starting to go to work now.

We all had good careers before we had kids (engineers, nurses, speech therapist, real estate).

My career does not do well with working part-time. I worked as a software engineer at a defense company in the Silicon Valley. Most software jobs out here are 60 hours a week kind of jobs.

My friends that have degrees in nursing and teaching have had an easier time going back to work when their kids are older. The nurses have been able to take part-time work, or work at different hours.

I will encourage my daughters to find jobs where they can work part-time when they have kids. One of my daughters is interested in accounting, and I think that may be a good job for a mom.


45 posted on 09/08/2008 1:00:55 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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46 posted on 09/08/2008 1:05:54 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland
GREAT and Good for you, Doug from Upland. I guess I was a "conservative feminist" in that I told my daughter not to marry until she had her college degree (something I didn't get until I was divorced and living in poverty). She has a great career, marriage, two great children, and like Gov. Palin "has it all." It can be done.

Some women see an "either/or" situation with family and career and the rest see it as a "both/and" situation. I think deep down, these women who say they put marriage and or family on the 'back burner' and pursued their careers first are not being honest with themselves. There may be a totally valid reason that they don't wish to get married or to have children. They should not project this reason onto their jobs. But then, typically, they would want to be the "victims" of the big bad capitalistic system.

Palin in 2008, 2013, 2016 . . . Sarah Power!
47 posted on 09/08/2008 1:11:23 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Number of the Beast:"six hundred threescore six." Barack Hussein Obama can translate:"Lucifer.")
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To: doug from upland

“I understand. I wonder if the whole family is moving to DC. Or, will she commute? They are not going to get as much of mom’s times as they are used to having.”

I’m not aware of a Vice President not residing at the Naval Observatory since it became the Official Veep residence.
Total speculation on my part, but I would imagine Piper and Willow would attend school in DC.

I also would speculate that the nebulous nature of the job of Vice President makes it more flexible when it comes to balancing scheduling issues.

Both Al Gore and Dan Quayle had minor children during their tenure and that seemed to work(Al Gore III notwithstanding).


48 posted on 09/08/2008 1:14:47 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: Earthdweller

In other words, from what I am reading, in small towns, the family is more likely to help out? Correct me if that’s not right. I was saying Sarah’s situation is not typical because she is literally being called to help rescue her country. I don’t think being materialistic is a good of enough of a reason to have day-care raise young children. Christian or not, it doesn’t change my opinion. There isn’t one set of standards for those who claim christianity. The truth is the truth. If a parent uses day care in the pursuit of getting more stuff, that’s selfish. The parents feel guilty and so they over-compensate by spoiling their children. It’s destrying the children who are given way too much material goods yet being pawned off on day-care. It’s a rather cold way to raise children, don’t you think?


49 posted on 09/08/2008 1:15:20 PM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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To: luckystarmom

There are as many variations in the lives of Christian women as there are with any other group across the country. But the left believes their rigid stereotypes because it fits their agenda of hate. Divide and conqueror, spread hate and then divide and conquer some more....but I guess they never counted on the strength of the American family to adapt.


50 posted on 09/08/2008 1:16:37 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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