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Biden Stiffs His Campaign Staff (giggle)
Macs Mind ^ | 09/07/2008 | Bruce Riddle, CPA CFP

Posted on 09/08/2008 5:18:41 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature

“Family, I feel an obligation to honesty and truth to share with you some facts. My Father and Mother instilled in me the values and morals of treating people fairly and always being honest. If you purchase something, you pay for it. If you borrow something, you give it back.

I have been “stiffed” three times in my 30 year professional career by someone who I rendered services to, gave a finished product to, but who refused to pay for those services even though they acknowledged the services and products were correct, were what they asked for, and were never challenged for not being correct. I am lucky in having only three, but those three hurt badly.

Joe Biden was one of those people...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: biden; bidenrecord; cheapskate; typicallibperson
Joe Biden was one of those people. I worked on his 1988 Presidential campaign financial disclosure engagement. I busted it for him and got everything right. He stiffed me for over $15,000 worth of work. He refused to pay once he dropped out of the race. I did similar Capitol Hill campaign financial disclosure work for Bob Dole, Pat Buchanan, and a Democratic candidate for Ambassador to New Zealand. All of those folks paid even though they lost the election or did not get the appointment. That type of work is very demanding and very tedious because your efforts are scrutinized by Congress. Biden did not care.

More at link.

1 posted on 09/08/2008 5:18:41 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Really?


2 posted on 09/08/2008 5:20:50 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Source for at least the second photo. I didn't check the other. It's photo 467 of 649.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Democratic-National-Convention-Senator-Joe-Biden-2008-Democratic-National-Convention-Michelle-Obama-vice-presidential-nominee/ss/events/pl/073008dncdemocratcon/im:/080829/480/8210e222956f4d21b1449107ae90d1a5

3 posted on 09/08/2008 5:26:02 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking-gun evidence on all the ObamaRat-Commie connections at my FR Profile/Home page)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Be careful with this stuff, because one thing we don't want to have happen is for Biden to be dropped from the ticket. /½sarc
4 posted on 09/08/2008 5:26:16 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Seems like the story could have ended after he was stiffed the first time.


5 posted on 09/08/2008 5:27:01 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Join FR / Yahoo ProFootball Pick'em at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2064038/posts)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Joe Biden, in his latest unsuccessful run for President, chartered over $150,000 worth of air time. He PAID ZERO. He continues to refuse to pay stating his race is over and he is out of money. He never once complained about his flights. Joe Biden is a rich man. He could pay.

Biden is on of those who thinks he is above the law when "he thinks" it's a good reason themselves. These people are also very narcissistic and there attitude is you will have to take me to court and it will cost you most or more in attorney fees to get. Biden = narcissistic scum bag
6 posted on 09/08/2008 5:30:39 PM PDT by Ugot2Bkidding
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Stiffed Staff Scrutinizes Scoundrel.....


7 posted on 09/08/2008 5:30:50 PM PDT by BossLady ("FACT ARE STUBBORN THINGS!...." ~ John Adams)
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To: ETL

Hey, Dr Dopenstein, pick up your flag.

8 posted on 09/08/2008 5:32:34 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Join FR / Yahoo ProFootball Pick'em at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2064038/posts)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Evidently, it was true, but is no longer. Snopes actually contacted Mr. Riddle. Read what he had to say at the following url.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/bidendebt.asp

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Washington Mutual Account
1301 Second Avenue, 10th Floor WMC1001 | Seattle, WA 98101
T 206 500 3984 | F 206 490 0066
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9 posted on 09/08/2008 5:32:59 PM PDT by mainevet
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

People need to know about deadbeats seeking trust.


10 posted on 09/08/2008 5:33:58 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Obligatory:

If this was a Republican...

(Shouldn’t we just create an acronym - ITWAR - for this?)


11 posted on 09/08/2008 5:38:56 PM PDT by Scarchin (nObama - Keep the change!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Hey, Dr Dopenstein, pick up your flag.

But the flag didn't fall to the ground. He clearly placed it that way deliberately. Check out how the stick is propped up against the chair. Not that he would have done it with the intent of disrespecting the flag, but rather that he apparently didn't care enough to give it much thought.


12 posted on 09/08/2008 5:40:01 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking-gun evidence on all the ObamaRat-Commie connections at my FR Profile/Home page)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Although grateful for his honest sharing of facts...one can’t help but say...why keep coming back to his aide? Unless you think you were “volunteering?”


13 posted on 09/08/2008 5:41:02 PM PDT by NordP (Peace thru STRENGTH--because if the bully thinks you're weak..."just words" don't mean a thing!)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Although grateful for his honest sharing of facts...one can’t help but say...why keep coming back to his aide? Unless you think you were “volunteering?”


14 posted on 09/08/2008 5:41:03 PM PDT by NordP (Peace thru STRENGTH--because if the bully thinks you're weak..."just words" don't mean a thing!)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

There was snip of this on the web a couple of days ago. Sent it to a Obama, big time raw raw union guy I used to work with. His response, “the republicans paid him to say this.” Must be nice to live in a different universe.


15 posted on 09/08/2008 5:41:19 PM PDT by engrpat
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Was Biden not properly vetted?


16 posted on 09/08/2008 5:44:32 PM PDT by twhitak
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To: All

Could someone please upload these two Biden photos to some website where they can be accessed later? Because I’m afraid the ObamaRats are going to somehow get them removed from the Yahoo site where they exist now. Tanks in advance!


17 posted on 09/08/2008 5:46:15 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking-gun evidence on all the ObamaRat-Commie connections at my FR Profile/Home page)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Seems like the story could have ended after he was stiffed the first time.

You're right, sounds too bad to be true.
18 posted on 09/08/2008 5:51:51 PM PDT by kenavi (John McCain, you're no Bob Dole. Sarah Palin, you're no Dan Quayle.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Dr Frankenputz is more accurate.


19 posted on 09/08/2008 5:53:13 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: PJ-Comix
Hey PJ, is this the story?

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

20 posted on 09/08/2008 5:56:13 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Scarchin

ITWAR ping! (i like that)


21 posted on 09/08/2008 6:08:38 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (OBAMA: He was a flop before he became a flipper.)
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To: mainevet
The thread stated that it was a private email to his 6 family members and that he has since been paid in full.

First off, why recap you entire political history to your family, as if they didn't know (hhmmm...) and then state that he has since been paid in full but will not provide any documenation? I saw, bogus to the flack cover.

22 posted on 09/08/2008 6:12:31 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (OBAMA: He was a flop before he became a flipper.)
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To: mainevet

thanks for doing the research. the Democratic ticket is target rich enough without needing to add false accusations to the mix.

false accusations and baseless rumors are wrong as a matter of principle and they also (as we see in the case of the various smears against Sarah Palin) have a tendency to backfire.

I don’t think it’s wrong to post a rumor that has not been verified, as long as you state very clearly that you are posting it in the hope that someone can either prove it or debunk it. That way, if someone just reads the post and doesn’t follow the discussion they will not run the risk of passing on a lie. Also, it will challenge folks to do a bit of digging, rather than just forwarding (as the liberals have been doing with Sarah Palin rumors all week).


23 posted on 09/08/2008 6:46:30 PM PDT by edwinland ("Barack Obama loves the future because that’s where all his accomplishments are." - David Brooks)
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To: xcamel

He’s been “stiffed” three times? Darn. He should talk to John Edwards and Elliot Spitzer and Bill Clinton about getting “stiffed.”

Calling Lorraina Bobbit.


24 posted on 09/08/2008 6:53:47 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Bingo!


25 posted on 09/08/2008 6:57:22 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
The thread stated that it was a private email to his 6 family members and that he has since been paid in full.

Not exactly true. It WAS a private email not intended for distribution, AND the issues have been "resolved"...

...the matter has been resolved between him and Joe Biden and that part of the bill has been paid.

The air lease company bill for $150,000+ in chartered flights WAS paid in full.

HOWEVER, Biden's personal debt for +$15,000 for campaign finance filings from the 1988 campaign was NOT paid. Instead it was written off by Mr. Riddle.

Riddle told TruthOrFiction.com that since the time he sent out the email, Biden has paid the bill for the jet flights and Riddle decided to write-off the other bill because it was from so long ago.

SO... Biden did stiff him on the 20 year old bill.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/cpa-stiffed-by-biden.htm

That's the way the cow ate the cabbage... Biden did NOT pay the one bill. $15,000 plus say 8% per annum interest on the annual balance due (principal + accumulated interest) over twenty years = $69,914.

Biden...

26 posted on 09/08/2008 7:10:11 PM PDT by muffaletaman (WOW - Sarah Palin! THAT"S what I'm talking about!)
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To: edwinland
See just above.

I confirmed this with Mr. Riddle.

These were NOT baseless rumors - and the matter was resolved with the current campaign debt owed a corporation being paid, BUT the old debt owed personally to the CPA for his work being written off after 20 years. NOT PAID.

Mr. Riddle adds...

Thanks. This has been a nightmare week. About 600 phone calls and 700 e-mails. I have not been able to work.

27 posted on 09/08/2008 7:16:08 PM PDT by muffaletaman (WOW - Sarah Palin! THAT"S what I'm talking about!)
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To: ETL
In the second picture that flag is flown properly:
The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
With them running things our lives, property and country would be in dire distress!
28 posted on 09/08/2008 7:21:09 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: ETL

And Michele and Biden’s wife don’t have flags at all.


29 posted on 09/08/2008 7:33:12 PM PDT by RDasher (El Nino is climate, La Nina is weather)
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To: mainevet

That leaves open the question of whether or not Biden would have paid, or was he embarrassed into paying because of this email going “to the world”.


30 posted on 09/08/2008 7:33:36 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: muffaletaman

Mea culpa! My description of the rumors as “baseless” was itself baseless!

Still it’s odd that Mr. Riddle would issue a statement saying the matter was closed when in fact only one of the two debts was paid.

Maybe that’s why they call him Mr. Riddle.

And maybe that’s why he’s beseiged by folks asking for clarification.


31 posted on 09/08/2008 7:56:50 PM PDT by edwinland ("Barack Obama loves the future because that’s where all his accomplishments are." - David Brooks)
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To: edwinland

Closed = resolved, OK I admit that it implies “paid”...

BUT when you consider the turmoil the public release caused this guy, ending it by saying it is resolved (but resolved by writing the one debt off) was what he needed to do.

In any event, the point is not why he wrote it off, it is why Biden never paid his bill in any of the preceding 19 years.

IMHO


32 posted on 09/08/2008 8:14:43 PM PDT by muffaletaman (WOW - Sarah Palin! THAT"S what I'm talking about!)
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To: ETL

Links for the Biden photos here: http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Democratic-National-Convention-Senator-Joe-Biden-2008-Democratic-National-Convention-Michelle-Obama-vice-presidential-nominee/ss/events/pl/073008dncdemocratcon/im:/080829/480/8210e222956f4d21b1449107ae90d1a5/#photoViewer=/080829/ids_photos_ts/r4162103799.jpg

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Democratic-National-Convention-Senator-Joe-Biden-2008-Democratic-National-Convention-Michelle-Obama-vice-presidential-nominee/ss/events/pl/073008dncdemocratcon/im:/080829/ids_photos_ts/r4162103799.jpg/#photoViewer=/080829/480/8210e222956f4d21b1449107ae90d1a5

link to the story surrounding the Ayers photo here:

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/

note that I can't vouch for the flag in trash photo ... it was linked on a weblog from a photo sharing site.

33 posted on 09/08/2008 8:31:36 PM PDT by edwinland ("Barack Obama loves the future because that’s where all his accomplishments are." - David Brooks)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Unfortunately politicians of both parties find it easy to convince themsaelves that if they lose an election they don’t have to pay campaign debts. I had to sue a losing GOPer for 15k. It wasn’t fun.


34 posted on 09/09/2008 7:42:10 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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