Skip to comments.GOP Candidates, Convention Steer Clear of Immigration (God's Children Ping)
Posted on 09/08/2008 6:13:12 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
GOP candidates, convention steer clear of immigration BY REID J. EPSTEIN
firstname.lastname@example.org September 8, 2008
During the Republican presidential primary, immigration was such an important topic that candidates were tripping over each other to be seen as the toughest defender of the nation's borders. The issue became so hot that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the GOP presidential nominee, was forced to disavow his own immigration reform bill because it was seen by many Republicans as too lenient. But a parade of Republicans came to the convention podium in St. Paul last week with barely a mention of immigration. On Wednesday and Thursday nights, 38 speakers addressed the GOP crowd and only one - unknown Kansas farmer Carolyn Dunn - even uttered the word "immigration." There was not a single mention of border security or amnesty from McCain or his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
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We are going to continue to be overrun.
This dovetails with the story about the "SAINT PAUL FOUR", the four Young Republicans who were told by panicky Secret Services agents in St. Paul last week to take down their simple sign *BUILD THE FENCE* at the Convention Center, by the G.O.P. "Control Room". Whomever the heck THEY are.
you know what to do
If people want to vote for the GOP candidate that doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is the willingness to overlook the obvious flaws in our presidential candidate to do so. Now is not time to stop hammering him and the rest of the GOP on the issue.
If they think they’re getting a free pass they will run with it.
McCain hasn’t backed off his support for comprehensive liberal immigration reform. McCain says the American people spoke out loud and clear. First step will be to secure the borders. Then I guess its onto amnesty.
And where is Sarah Palin on immigration reform and amnesty? Laura Ingraham says Palin opposes illegal immigration. We shall see.
“If people want to vote for the GOP candidate that doesnt bother me. What bothers me is the willingness to overlook the obvious flaws in our presidential candidate to do so. Now is not time to stop hammering him and the rest of the GOP on the issue.”
Mega bump. The slavish hero worship of Palin is obnoxious. But the fact that its occuring before she has specified her position on many issues including illegal immigration is unforgiveable. For many on FR, its not about protecting this country, its about ensuring the candidate with the “R” next to their name gets elected.
Once McCain fires Dr. Juan Hernandez, a close inner circle supporter of his as we speak, and a traitor on this border/national security issue, then we will know it is not all cheap, sneaky talk-which is what it is to-date IMHO.
Note my tagline.
The right has had little to cheer about, so I can forgive the euphoria - I even allowed myself to indulge in it for a few days.
But now, back to work. Palin's not the top of the ticket; we still have Juan to contend with.
The issue is coming back folks. They know the unseen elephant in the room.
McCain’s campaign earlier tanked on this issue. It did because of those that were aware of his stance.
Many don’t know where he stands and they are going to find out soon.
I like what they’re saying about Sarah Palin but I have yet to really see for myself. I am pretty tired of her name being invoked like it’s a magical word that ends all arguments.
I’m going to start telling them “Your jedi mind tricks don’t work on me”.
I noticed today on Fox, that all at once, this issue is emerging again with the story about those people in the ice cream shop. They even went on to say it was an illegal alien that caused the death of those people.
They haven’t done that in months. I can see where this is going and McCain has no good answers because he is shameful on this issue.
Shows you a person can never get by when they seek to ignore a big issue and hope no one will make them notice.
Is that the one where the toddler was killed?
The Open Borders Faction won the 2008 GOP Nomination and therefore Immigration is no longer an issue.
“For many on FR, its not about protecting this country, its about ensuring the candidate with the R next to their name gets elected”.
...you’re right! And staying home so you can cross your arms and pout will help Obama get in. Then...a dem majority in Congress and Senate. Then obliterating the electoral college. Perfect! Now you have a democracy! Majority rules. NY/Chicago/LA/San Fran decide who’s going to be President from here on out.
Yep. It makes complete sense to stay home. Stick to your guns on immigration and allow Obama into the White House. It won’t be 2 years before your life changes drastically, in every way.
Mind you, by that I do not mean that she is part of this, but that it is McCain’s purpose to use her in that fashion.
Even with democrats in control of both houses of congress and the white house the whiners have no one to blame but themselves if democrats run rampant. After all they’ll still be consituents of the president but it’s pretty hard to fight while curled up in the fetal position sniveling and crying.
People need to man up and act like real Americans no matter who gets elected. (and that goes for women too)
I think I know where McCain stands. From his speech at the convention:
"We believe everyone has something to contribute and deserves the opportunity to reach their God-given potential from the boy whose descendents arrived on the Mayflower to the Latina daughter of migrant workers. Were all Gods children and were all Americans."
The daughters of migrant workers are Americans??
The way I take it, underneath the sugar coating and aside from the intoxicating distraction of adding Sarah to the ticket, he slipped in his intentions to continue his efforts toward shamnesty for illegals.
I'm not happy about that and illegal immigration is still a hot issue in my book. Or did we all forget about it?
And cowards like you aren’t man enough to actually defend your country against an invasion. Hell you aren’t even man enough to acknowledge the deaths caused by illegal aliens.
McCain needs to get in line with the GOP platform if he expects their votes
Hint: NO AMNESTY
The President has no obligation to follow the wishes of his party’s platform.
“If people want to vote for the GOP candidate that doesnt bother me. What bothers me is the willingness to overlook the obvious flaws in our presidential candidate to do so. “
What bothers me is that there are way too many people that claim to be Conservative but are actual one issue - pro-life. I am pro-life but that is not enough for me. I want them out of my wallet. Off my land. and out of my life.
Having to work all day so I can pay my taxes for lobbyist shills like you, I don't have a lot paid time to get to play on the net.
I can't believe these people on FR don't refute your falsehoods. Absolutely and overwhelmingly AMERICANS ARE AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!!! Poll after poll says 70-80% are against what YOU stand for. It doesn't matter what YOU want, it matters what the American people want.
You are also the "man" who said the right wing conservatives are the part of the party you want to get rid of. You said our votes are irrelevant and "we don't need you".
So, why did your buddy McCain pick a right wing conservative as a running mate?
All I want from you is an admission that we, here in the Heartland of America, you need us. That's all I ask, admit it... You need us.
The American people have spoken, it's no longer about Robert David and what he wants.
The presidential candidate then shows he doesn't want my vote.
There is no doubt in my mind the John McCain will win the election.
I also expect President McCain to reintroduce an Amnesty Package within his first 18 months in office.
I have to call you on that one, where are you getting this info that they are legal workers? No one has a problem with legal workers. You are not truthful which negates anything you've said. Untruthful people are never appreciated.
We will have to fight McCain on this issue if he wins. He has given his word to build the fence before he does anything else. We’ll hold him to that and then fight him on amnesty and line cutting.
And I expect the McCainiacs here at FR will be supporting it. GOP platform and will of the people be damned.
“The slavish hero worship of Palin is obnoxious. But the fact that its occuring before she has specified her position on many issues including illegal immigration is unforgiveable.”
Other than illegal immigration, what issues are you unclear about her stance on?
You can take that to the bank.
John McCain has stuck to his beliefs through all of the massive criticism launched at him, and for that I admire the man. He knows what is the right way forward for America and he did not change his beliefs just because it was convenient.
There is no shame in doing so. We are right.
None. They are one issue fanatics and disagreeing with them on immigration will get you called a traitor by their kind.
“For many on FR, its not about protecting this country, its about ensuring the candidate with the R next to their name gets elected.”
KB - with all due respect, we KNOW that the candidates with the “R” will protect this country a helluva lot more than the candidates with the “D” in this election. And make no mistake, any vote other than for McCain/Palin will be a vote for Obama/Biden. Obama intends NO good for America. Biden is a misguided, loud far-leftist - resulting in the same as BHO.
“I like what theyre saying about Sarah Palin but I have yet to really see for myself. I am pretty tired of her name being invoked like its a magical word that ends all arguments.”
oh, jeez - after what we’ve had to put up with ad nauseum over the last 19 some months with the Annointed One, can’t we enjoy some very brief time of positive attention paid to OUR side???
” Stick to your guns on immigration and allow Obama into the White House.”
Albie - well said! you did forget 2-3 liberal, left supreme court justices appointed for life, though - which would have MAJOR impact on our lives for years.
And I think you may be conservative in your estimate of how this country would change in 2 years under Obama - try during the FIRST year. A LOT can happen in a year or less - to wit, 9/11 when GW was in office less than 8 months.
Not voting is a vote for b. hussein. A vote for either Barr or Paul (write-in) is a vote for b. hussein. That’s just the reality of it. A vote for Nader - naaaaaah, the left won’t be that stupid, unfortunately.
"John McCain has stuck to his beliefs through all of the massive criticism launched at him, and for that I admire the man. He knows what is the right way forward for America and he did not change his beliefs just because it was convenient."
Does the "right way forward for America" include the selling out of this country to illegal immigrants? That's what amnesty equates to. And you admire someone for sticking to such an ill founded belief? Stubborn stupidity is not worthy of admiration. Disgust, but not admiration.
And don't construe this to mean that I won't vote for McCain or that I'd stay home on election day. That's a tired old line and you would be wrong on both accounts. But after the election, McCain will be hit hard with the illegal immigration issue. It's not going away.
“BTW, if McCain loses and Obama becomes POTUS, it will be no one else’s fault except McCain”
No, it will be the fault of the voters, just as it was the voters who made McCain the candidate.
“I’m not happy about that and illegal immigration is still a hot issue in my book. Or did we all forget about it?”
Listen, I’m not happy about it, either - nor are most of those on this board, IMHO. Not happy with GW’s stance on it, either. BUT——you can be assured that BHO will compound the problem in spades (oh, sorry for the pun). Personally, my own #1 priority is Foreign Policy in a very dangerous and volatile world, and McCain/Palin wins this one hands-down over Obama/Biden.
“He has given his word to build the fence before he does anything else. Well hold him to that and then fight him on amnesty and line cutting.”
Good point - first things first. And everyone seems to forget that the REAL power is through Senate/House. When enough pressure is put on our legislators, that’s how we get real results. And we’re starting to see this with the energy issue now that they’ve (finally) re-convened today. Presidents have the most power when it comes to vetoing. But for enacting issues, look to the legislative body. Another reason why ALL these elections in Nov. count a LOT.