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2 new polls: Obama-McCain tied, but McCain-Palin surge among women
LA Times ^ | 9/8/08 | staff

Posted on 09/08/2008 7:42:15 PM PDT by pissant

Suddenly, it's Poll City around here today.

As The Ticket reported earlier, the new Gallup/USA Today poll found a significant post-convention bounce for the John McCain-Sarah Palin ticket, a turnaround of 8 points to give the M-S ticket a 4-point lead over Barack Obama-Joe Biden.

A new political button for the Republican presidential ticket of Senator John McCain of Arizona and Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska

But now this afternoon come two more national polls essentially confirming the same trends with some significant subterranean changes:

-- the ABC News/Washington Post national poll of registered voters, which shows Obama's 6-point August lead has evaporated to produce a 47-46 Obama-McCain statistical tie,

-- and a CNN/Opinion Research poll, which shows the race still tied at 48% apiece but McCain making significant gains in how voters view his handling of the economy, Iraq and healthcare.

The most surprising results -- and surely the most disturbing for the freshman Illinois senator's camp -- are the immense gains McCain has made among white women following the Republican National Convention and the well-received prime-time speech by Palin.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; 2008rncconvention; bounce; electionpresident; mccainpalin; obama; palin; womensvote
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I think some of the Hillary fans liked how Palin stalked, shot, field dressed and taxidermied Obama in her speech.
1 posted on 09/08/2008 7:42:15 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

BS. The Palin surge is due to lots of demographics, not just white women.


2 posted on 09/08/2008 7:43:13 PM PDT by library user (What say you, Messiah?)
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To: pissant

I guess now we know how the speeches played outside the hall, huh?


3 posted on 09/08/2008 7:45:17 PM PDT by jpf
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To: pissant

Andrea Mitchell might think they are “uneducated” but they sure do know what is best for America. I’d call that pretty damn sharp.


4 posted on 09/08/2008 7:45:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (McCain/Palin '08! Real change you won't have to "believe in." You'll be able to see it!!!)
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To: library user

steve schmidt is no dummy.


5 posted on 09/08/2008 7:46:05 PM PDT by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
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To: pissant

I question the polls. I honestly believe McCain/Palin are doing better than that


6 posted on 09/08/2008 7:47:10 PM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: pissant
OBambi / OBiden ahead in poll....its the special sauce.
7 posted on 09/08/2008 7:48:43 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (If you aren't "advancing" your arguments,your losing "the battle of Ideas"...libs,hates the facts 8^)
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To: realcleanguy
Almost all of the polls (outside of Gallup) assume that the RATs have an 8-10 point lead in self-identified voters -- roughly 40 - 32.

This was definitely true earlier in the year. If that has changed, however, and some GOP voters are coming back home, then the polls are underestimating our support.

It is impossible to tell at this point, but Rasmussen reports that he is finding some evidence the gap is continuing to narrow in our favor.

8 posted on 09/08/2008 7:51:50 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: pissant
The most surprising results -- and surely the most disturbing for the freshman Illinois senator's camp -- are the immense gains McCain has made among white women

THis is highly satisfying not only because it hits Obama in his wheelhouse but also it slaps down the snarky smirkfaced female media a-holes who, despite their self-appointed superiority, have acted like tawdry fishwives-- and displayed the truth of Kipling's observation that "the colonel's lady/ and Rosie O'Grady are sisters under the skin..."

9 posted on 09/08/2008 7:52:22 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: realcleanguy
I question the polls. I honestly believe McCain/Palin are doing better than that

Rasmussen may not have this measured correctly yet. He adjusts to party preference which he has at about 38 D and 29 R based on a 90 day avg. This is probably indicative of the last 90 days, but it is not of the last 5-10. I feel a conservative earthquake. The GOP may end up so motivated they close that gap considerably in the next 50 days. If so, Obama is toast and it won't be close.

10 posted on 09/08/2008 7:52:44 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

agreed


11 posted on 09/08/2008 7:57:17 PM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: pissant

There has got to be a political cartoon of that ..


12 posted on 09/08/2008 8:03:41 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: pissant

Morris on tv today said that the old models of “likely voters” don’t mean much this year because of the age distribution of the voters’ preferences, with the young going to Obama and the older people to McCain; he said that there is no way to gauge what that young-people turnout will be. I hope that doesn’t mean that the historical spread between registered voters and likely voters is in danger, b/c there are heck of a lot more registered voters (mostly Obama-niks) who don’t vote than likely voters who don’t vote and that turnout might be a key to the election.


13 posted on 09/08/2008 8:04:30 PM PDT by Taiku
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" Andrea Mitchell might think they are “uneducated” "

Condescending arrogance is to soft of a term to use for Andrea ( elitist look down my nose ) Mitchell.
14 posted on 09/08/2008 8:06:55 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: pissant

The surge is successful beyond our wildest dreams.


15 posted on 09/08/2008 8:11:48 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Democrats are Intimidated by Strong Women.)
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To: realcleanguy
" I question the polls. I honestly believe McCain/Palin are doing better than that "

I believe you are right, before the conventions they must have had the polls heavily skewed in Obama's favor
but, even in their internal polling now they still have to report the facts that McCain/Palin are making great strides no matter how much they want to skew it or report it in Obama's favor or no matter they like it or not.
Kind of like, they HAVE TO report a 9.0 earthquake.
If they don't HAVE TO report the facts.. people will know or it will be even more obvious that they are lying.
16 posted on 09/08/2008 8:13:14 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: comebacknewt

You are probably right. Rasmussen weights its polls based partially on party affiliation. McCain/Palin is headed for a sizable win. I think it very well may be a blow out. The next phase should worry Obama even more. He has not reached the bottom of his support yet because so many of his supporters still do not know exactly who they are supporting. Selecting Palin knocked Obama down hard. Now they are left in a dynamic where they are perceived to be hitting a woman and not just any woman but an accomplished straight talking woman who has five children, one of which has downs syndrome. They are also faced with attacking a real War hero one that still believes in the fight he signed up for back in Vietnam, one who believes Victory is the answer and an expression of love of country and defeat a dark stain. McCain and Palin just need to keep their love of country and desire to be even better leaders to guide them. McCain I can tell has been letting himself be guided by his faith and heart. When you follow that internal arrow you don’t need to equivocate, you don’t need polls, you get need to keep stepping in faith.


17 posted on 09/08/2008 8:15:33 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: Taiku

There’s an age-old word for candidates who rely on young people to vote: losers.


18 posted on 09/08/2008 8:19:39 PM PDT by xjcsa (McWhatshisname-Palin 2008)
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To: library user

hey, I’ll take the women vote to go along with the huge gain we have with men and especially white men.


19 posted on 09/08/2008 8:20:10 PM PDT by bpjam (If an enemy chooses you as his executioner, don't be rude by refusing.)
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To: pissant

I strongly maintain, it is not liberal women who are freaking out about Governor Palin. They sort of like the idea.

It’s liberal gay guys. The type who are journalists in New York, and who write for liberal publications.

They’re (completely) freaking out, because they’ve always counted on having their “sisters” as allies. Fighting against Male Chauvanist straight guys.

Well. That alliance is out quickly, flying right out the window.

That’s the panic you’re seeing.

It’s not women. It’s liberal guys...


20 posted on 09/08/2008 8:23:42 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 95 Weeks. Waiting...)
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