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Generals Behaving Badly (WSJ Review of Woodward's Book)
Wall Street Journal ^ | Sept 9, 2008 | WILLIAM MCGURN

Posted on 09/09/2008 2:55:42 AM PDT by The Raven

WSJ Book Review - "The War Within," by Bob Woodward

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During a videoconference with Baghdad, the president said, "George, we're not playing for a tie. I want to make sure we all understand this." Gen. Casey, Mr. Woodward writes, took this as "an affront to his dignity that he would long remember."

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Gen. Casey, after all, was the commander who all along maintained that the solution in Iraq was for America to draw down its forces -- even after the bombing of the Golden Mosque in Samarra. He was the commander who later that year was given his own chance to secure Baghdad with Operations Together Forward I and II, and failed. Most of all, he is the commander who was wrong when the president was right to insist that Baghdad could be secured and al Qaeda dealt a harsh blow with more troops.

Gen. Casey's continued adherence to a failed strategy does not make him a dishonorable man. It does make him an odd choice to serve as the foundation for the charge that the president was out of touch with the war. As evidence, both the general and the journalist point to questions about how many of the enemy we were killing as a sign that "the president did not get it."

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bookreview; bush; casey; iraq; islam; mohammedanism; presidentbush; surge; thesurge; warwithin; woodward
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"...Second, the surge was a shift in mission, not simply an addition of five brigades. Until the surge, we had pursued a political solution, hoping that the answer to Iraq was the rise of a democratic government that would persuade Iraqis to come together for their future. The surge, by contrast, finally recognized the obvious: Until Iraqis started feeling safe in their own homes and neighborhoods, there would be no compromise or rebuilding."

Note the "political solution" didn't work.

1 posted on 09/09/2008 2:55:43 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
Did you see yesterday, where Joe Biden is now taking credit for pushing the surge. He said that after two years, he was finely listened to.

Still stealing others idea's and words. Shame on Joe!

2 posted on 09/09/2008 2:59:49 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Read my lipstick")
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To: The Raven

Woodward is beltway media. I want nothing to do with these disgusting people anymore. Time to send em packin.


3 posted on 09/09/2008 3:03:55 AM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: Coldwater Creek

As long as I can remember - the Dems have taken credit for things they didn’t do, and of course, when things go very wrong, “Deny, deny, deny - and blame it on the Republicans”


4 posted on 09/09/2008 3:06:21 AM PDT by The Raven (50-08 50 States in 2008)
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To: The Raven
"an affront to his dignity that he would long remember."

Right or wrong, the Commander-in-Chief has the right to chew any general's ass, for any reason, at any time, at any place.

Put some ice on that General, and enjoy your retirement.
5 posted on 09/09/2008 3:27:39 AM PDT by mkjessup (If Ronald Reagan were with us today, he'd say "Vote McCain/Palin, & Win One More for the Gipper!!!")
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To: The Raven
As long as I can remember - the Dems have taken credit for things they didn’t do...

You mean like Charlie Wilson's War?

6 posted on 09/09/2008 3:30:52 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: The Raven

You got the money quote in your reply. Nonetheless, Obama and others are obsessed with talking their way to a solution.

The Anbar Awakening and the surge account for much of the success in Iraq. We should not forget, however, that the cell phone images of Saddam hanging by the neck came immediately before the turnaround in Iraq began. A figure like Saddam was larger than life and his shadow would always hang over the country until people knew he was gone. The killing of the bastards, especially the main bastard allows people to believe in a better future.


7 posted on 09/09/2008 3:34:16 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: mkjessup
Put some ice on that General, and enjoy your retirement.

Retirement will have to wait as Casey is currently serving as Army Chief of Staff.

8 posted on 09/09/2008 3:34:34 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: The Raven

This is the exact position being touted by Biden/Obama.

They wanted to withdraw all the troops and hand Baghdad over to the warring factions while Al Qaeda was still dominant.


9 posted on 09/09/2008 3:35:09 AM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............)
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To: mkjessup

General Casey reminds me of another whiner. One who wants to be CinC.

God help us if we have all these men who are so sensitive.


10 posted on 09/09/2008 3:36:40 AM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............)
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To: All
To understand the fix we are in, you would have had to see nincompoopneo Douglas Feith being interviewed on 60 Minutes.

Feith is a self-affirming space cadet---if Feith somehow found a parking spot near the White House it would be tantanmount to a miracle. That he was allowed to make WH policy for the US is appalling.

60 Minutes taped intellectual zero Feith at his trusty computer where he manufactured fake documents to dupe the president of the USA and its citizens. (Jerkoff is probably typing new docs labeled Top Secret Iran. Top Secret in his addlepated mind, that is.)

Feith demnstrated a conman's adeptness at using 60 Minutes' Steve Kroft's penetrating questions to deflect blame for the costly, bloody Iraq disaster on everyone but himself and his pals---where it rightfully belongs.

One general rightfully called Feith the dumbest man in history. Feith's dumb*** involvement in US foreign-policy should have relegated pukeneos to the dustbin of history. No such luck.

These con artists flim-flammed the Washington establishment and are doing a whizbang job at transferring massive amounts of US wealth to Mideast hellholes (and into war profiteers' pockets).

Americans need to avoid the mistakes that allowed these nincompoops to achieve the status they did.

MUST READ “The Transparent Cabal.” Amazon lists this book, written by a noted historian, as one of the great history books of the decade.

11 posted on 09/09/2008 3:43:32 AM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: Carley

General Casey is just mad because he was removed and Bush was right. Kill the bastards.


12 posted on 09/09/2008 3:45:04 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: The Raven

I watched part of the bj interview with Comrade Woodward on 60-bj Minutes and though it was sickening beyond belief (”do you need a pillow, Mr. Woodward, are you sure you’re comfortable”) there was a bit at the end that was very interesting. After all the distortions, after all the blind faith in every dyspeptic remark of every disgruntled Clintonite in the Pentagon, Comrade Woodward let drop some reference to a new weapon, something that is changing the shape of the battlefield as significantly as the tank.

Some sort of robotics, I would guess.


13 posted on 09/09/2008 3:52:16 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Put some ice on that General, and enjoy your retirement.
Retirement will have to wait as Casey is currently serving as Army Chief of Staff.


Well then A.A., we'll be depending on you to make the official announcement when Casey retires, and you can pick up the cake, candles and party favors for all of us to enjoy.

As you were, and have a nice day.
14 posted on 09/09/2008 6:30:57 AM PDT by mkjessup (If Ronald Reagan were with us today, he'd say "Vote McCain/Palin, & Win One More for the Gipper!!!")
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To: The Raven

I’m sure Mortuary Bob got a great interview with al-Zarqawi after he was taken out by the 500lb LGB.


15 posted on 09/09/2008 6:50:21 AM PDT by paddles
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To: SeeSharp

Perfect example. How many references were there to Ronald Reagan in “Charlie Wilson’s War”? Like 1? If you didn’t know who was president during that period of American History you wouldn’t get it from that movie.


16 posted on 09/09/2008 6:54:55 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Liz

Exactly, Feith and Pearl and the other...advisors...led us over the cliff.

I give John McCain a heck of alot of the credit for sticking by his call for more soldiers and a change in strategy.


17 posted on 09/09/2008 6:56:47 AM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: Liz
Feith is a self-affirming space cadet---if Feith somehow found a parking spot near the White House it would be tantamount to a miracle. That he was allowed to make WH policy for the US is appalling.

You are an old hand around here, but I still have to say.. whew this is on the edge.. tinfoil hat territory. Time to come back and join the rest of us on mother earth.

This post is primarily a series of ad hominem attacks and unsupported assertions. Cut the vitriol and increase the facts and perhaps you can gain some respect lost in this screed.

18 posted on 09/09/2008 7:33:34 AM PDT by dalight
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To: mkjessup

You can plan Casey’s party, Buckwheat, just make sure you have a clue as to when he actually retires.


19 posted on 09/09/2008 7:33:57 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Liz

Tell us what you really think... Don’t hold back, now... Really... :-)


20 posted on 09/09/2008 7:40:34 AM PDT by Zeppo (Every mighty mild... seventies child... Beats me (Metric - Combat Baby))
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