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Secret killing program is key in Iraq, Woodward says
CNN ^

Posted on 09/09/2008 1:09:28 PM PDT by fontoon

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The dramatic drop in violence in Iraq is due in large part to a secret program the U.S. military has used to kill terrorists, according to a new book by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Bob Woodward. Bob Woodward on Larry King Live Bob Woodward's book, "The War Within: Secret White House History 2006-2008," came out Monday. The program -- which Woodward compares to the World War II era Manhattan Project that developed the atomic bomb -- must remain secret for now or it would "get people killed," Woodward said Monday on CNN's Larry King Live. "It is a wonderful example of American ingenuity solving a problem in war, as we often have," Woodward said. In "The War Within: Secret White House History 2006-2008," Woodward disclosed the existence of secret operational capabilities developed by the military to locate, target and kill leaders of al Qaeda in Iraq and other insurgent leaders. National security adviser Stephen Hadley, in a written statement reacting to Woodward's book, acknowledged the new strategy. Yet he disputed Woodward's conclusion that the "surge" of 30,000 U.S. troops into Iraq was not the primary reason for the decline in violent attacks. "It was the surge that provided more resources and a security context to support newly developed techniques and operations," Hadley wrote. Woodward, associate editor of the Washington Post, wrote that along with the surge and the

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TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; islam; mohammedanism; surge; weapon; woodward
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New Secret weapon to kill terrorist, sounds interesting.
1 posted on 09/09/2008 1:09:28 PM PDT by fontoon
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To: fontoon

And the problem is....?


2 posted on 09/09/2008 1:10:27 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: fontoon
Sounds good to me. I'm for anti-terrorists weapons.
3 posted on 09/09/2008 1:11:28 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: gathersnomoss

Cause for celebration.


4 posted on 09/09/2008 1:12:20 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Sarah Palin: The liberals worst nightmare.)
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To: gathersnomoss

And the problem, at least for Woodward and his ilk, is that the Democrats and other leftists want the US to lose the war in Iraq.


5 posted on 09/09/2008 1:12:54 PM PDT by comps4spice
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To: gathersnomoss

no problem here, i just want to know more


6 posted on 09/09/2008 1:13:08 PM PDT by fontoon
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To: fontoon
Woodward may or may not be FOS on this ... but Mr. Hadley's motive in acknowledging the program is a great tactic....

It causes uncertainty and distrust among the bad guys, and also tempts them to move around more, which makes them more vulnerable.

7 posted on 09/09/2008 1:13:24 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: fontoon
....must remain secret for now or it would "get people killed

Well Bob, maybe you need to check your will.

Loose Lips Sinks Ships, Boooob!

8 posted on 09/09/2008 1:13:37 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: fontoon

Let me guess. Woodward interviewed some of the dead to find this out... which is an improvement over when he interviewed the CIA ex-chief who was guarded in a hospital, and in a coma. Face it folks, Woodward is a little wimp who lucked out when “deep throat” revealed all to him. Remove a reliable source and this guy is just about as intellectual as Jimmy Carter.


9 posted on 09/09/2008 1:13:40 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: fontoon
And the surge was just a cover-up?? Bob sounds like he's being a little sensational here. I hope we do have a secret killing program that can now be deployed in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran. But to claim it was primarily responsible for reducing violence seems a little fanciful.
10 posted on 09/09/2008 1:13:45 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: fontoon

Shut up, Woodstein. Retire. You would tactically disserve your country during war. Do you know the word for that?


11 posted on 09/09/2008 1:14:07 PM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: fontoon

Yeah, Woodward!
What’s your point?!


12 posted on 09/09/2008 1:15:36 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: fontoon

Phoenix - resurrected.


13 posted on 09/09/2008 1:15:55 PM PDT by astounded
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To: Parley Baer

Isn’t the war on terror a terrorist killing program in it self?


14 posted on 09/09/2008 1:16:50 PM PDT by fontoon
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To: fontoon

The new secret weapon is a “Jihadist call,” something like a turkey call. (Remember Gary Cooper in Sgt. York?)

But with a new technology twist.

A special ops guy with a sniper rifle hides while his partner sets off the electronic call, which is that of an imam shouting, “One bit, two bits, three bits, a dollar. All for Osama ben Laden stand up and holler.”

Game over.


15 posted on 09/09/2008 1:18:28 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: fontoon

My guess is they rounded up all the JAG types and sent them packing. Then they told the troops to do what they were trained to do.


16 posted on 09/09/2008 1:18:37 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: fontoon

I’m confused. I thought the objective in war was to kill the enemy.


17 posted on 09/09/2008 1:18:43 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: fontoon

...sarcasm....

Bush is a bastard. He’s waging a war and killing the enemy. How dare he kill people whose only problem is that they want to turn the world into a ninth-century Islamic dystopia. No wonder it’s secret. The bastard.

... /sarcasm....


18 posted on 09/09/2008 1:19:26 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: fontoon

With a traitorously anti-military and anti-American media, I say we let our magnificent military conduct ALL future wars “in secret”.

I trust them infinitely more than talentless, journalist scum, like the hugely over-rated Bob Woodward.


19 posted on 09/09/2008 1:20:25 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: fontoon

Woodward is basically a Washington DC gossip columnist.

As to secretly killing terrorists - if people don’t want to send ‘em to Gitmo, then we have to do something with them....


20 posted on 09/09/2008 1:20:37 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: fontoon

let’s just hope Leahy is not let in on the secret. If he is it will be above the fold NY Times the next day.


21 posted on 09/09/2008 1:20:45 PM PDT by mrmargaritaville
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To: fontoon
Those "ghosts" that operate Barrett .50 cal sniper rifles and take out terrorists from a mile away don't necessarily advertise themselves.

The special-ops (black-ops?) guys don't wear those jackets with big yellow letters on them like some FBI or ATF raid to identify the good guys from the bad.

UAVs (armed and un-armed) don't fly low and loud! They fly high and silent...and effectively deadly.

Woodward should be on trial for treason. This, in my opinion does not fall under free speech. It's like the warning here on FR: "loose lips sink ships"

22 posted on 09/09/2008 1:22:28 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime member of the "Christian-Radical-Right-Wing-Conspirators")
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To: mrmargaritaville

Woodward is trying desperately to discredit the surge and everything else related to the Bush administration.


23 posted on 09/09/2008 1:22:55 PM PDT by aberfoyle
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To: fontoon

Former Lieutenant Bob Woodward USNR, aid to CNO Admiral Thomas H. Moorer in 1969, would of course have been familiar with the Phoenix program in a different counter-insurgency conflict. It’s predictable that he would assume the same tactical means would be employed in the present conflict.

Question is, so what?


24 posted on 09/09/2008 1:23:47 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: fontoon; dighton; Tijeras_Slim; martin_fierro; aculeus; Rebelbase
The dramatic drop in violence in Iraq is due in large part to a secret program the U.S. military has used to kill terrorists...

The program...must remain secret for now or it would "get people killed," Woodward said Monday...

Impeccable logic from Mr. Woodward.

25 posted on 09/09/2008 1:23:59 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: fontoon
I guess it's not a secret anymore.


26 posted on 09/09/2008 1:24:36 PM PDT by GunRunner (Obama and Palin have one thing in common; they both make me want to vote for John McCain.)
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To: Da Coyote
Remove a reliable source and this guy is just about as intellectual as Jimmy Carter.

ROTFLOL

27 posted on 09/09/2008 1:25:03 PM PDT by saminfl (conservative since 1964)
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To: fontoon

They started it. I don't much care what we are doing in order to finish it.

Our innovation is in response to their innovation. Our innovation involves killing those who need to be killed, but killing as few as possible. Their innovation involves killing as many people as they can without discrimination.

There is no moral equivalence here. None. Zero. Nada.

28 posted on 09/09/2008 1:25:53 PM PDT by gridlock (HIX IN STIX DIG MCCAIN CHICK PICK)
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To: fontoon

Woody is a cancer growing unabated on the tuchus of the Republic.


29 posted on 09/09/2008 1:27:23 PM PDT by Calusa (Bajo como el Dolar. Subo como el Cafe!)
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To: mrmargaritaville

I think you may have just answered my “So what” question. This could be fodder for an October surprise.


30 posted on 09/09/2008 1:27:26 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: comps4spice

Believe it or not, Woodward is not a leftist. I don’t know what he is, but I don’t think he fits any category at all. He is definitely out there.


31 posted on 09/09/2008 1:28:02 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: fontoon

32 posted on 09/09/2008 1:28:06 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: fontoon; All

The democrats argued that it was because the sunnies and shiites stopped fighting - the surge was a failure.

Now it seems a secret weapon that only kills there “freedom fighters” has been developed.

What will Obama say now.


33 posted on 09/09/2008 1:28:29 PM PDT by edcoil
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To: fontoon

And these programs are Top Secret (SCI) so who is the leaker???


34 posted on 09/09/2008 1:28:59 PM PDT by Arkansas Tider (Army EOD)
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To: fontoon

How ‘bout a coupla good ‘ol Marine snipers? Won’t take many to “get some”!


35 posted on 09/09/2008 1:31:45 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: BGHater

bttt


36 posted on 09/09/2008 1:32:41 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: fontoon
Earth to Bob. Earth to Bob.

Message: Yes they are killing terrorists in Iraq. This is called war and the idea behind war is to kill enough of your enemies soldiers that your enemy quits and stops fighting. That's what we did in Iraq and there is name for the result. It's called victory.

37 posted on 09/09/2008 1:33:41 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: fontoon

If it would get people killed why is Woodward is alive?


38 posted on 09/09/2008 1:33:55 PM PDT by nclaurel (I think therefore I vote Republican.)
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To: Arkansas Tider

...and why is Woodward’s revealation about out secret capabilities any different than some eeevil Bushco operative outing blondsuperspyvixen Valerie Plame?


39 posted on 09/09/2008 1:34:06 PM PDT by AngryJawa (Someday, the USS Sarah Palin will lead the world's most powerful carrier battle group)
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To: Arkansas Tider

I think the secret weapon is 308 caliber.


40 posted on 09/09/2008 1:34:49 PM PDT by refermech
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To: fontoon
Great News!!!!!

I was worried that they would try to "arrest and charge them" then the ACLU lawyers would step in and the taxpayers would fund their legal cases.

A triple tap to the head takes care of everything with little effort.

Bullets are cheaper than ACLU, not to mention saving us from the endless sob stories appearing in the NYT, LAT and WaPo.

41 posted on 09/09/2008 1:35:54 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: fontoon

Good. If it works, expand the program.


42 posted on 09/09/2008 1:36:23 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: fontoon

Hmm, I’m guessing that the new weapon is the “sniffer.” You see, you attach a super duper sniffing device the the nose of plane. When it flies over...and the Al Qaeda operatives hear it, they get scared and they poop a little. At that point, they’re pretty easy for the “sniffer” to pick out in a crowd. The “sniffer” singles them out and KA-BLAM!!! No more Al Qaeda...it’s really an ingenious device...


43 posted on 09/09/2008 1:37:47 PM PDT by Paco
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To: fontoon
In "The War Within: Secret White House History 2006-2008," Woodward disclosed the existence of secret operational capabilities developed by the military to locate, target and kill leaders of al Qaeda in Iraq and other insurgent leaders.

Sounds like the OODA loop.


44 posted on 09/09/2008 1:39:39 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "The Iron Lady from the North")
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To: fontoon

I know what it is!!!

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tech/Beam/Phaser4.jpg


45 posted on 09/09/2008 1:41:08 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (Her couch is tougher than Obama.)
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To: fontoon
While he would not reveal the details, Woodward said the terrorists who have been targeted were already aware of the capabilities.

"The enemy has a heads up because they've been getting wiped out and a lot of them have been killed," he said. "It's not news to them.

Woodward described it as being on the same level as the Manhatten Project as far as secrecy and scope, but to me it sounds like something more along the lines of the Enigma code being broken.

I'll bet they've found some insanely ingenious way of intercepting insurgent communications and immediately dispatching spec ops teams to kill everyone on site. Can't wait to hear the details, although its probably years off until they reveal anything about it.

46 posted on 09/09/2008 1:41:24 PM PDT by GunRunner (Obama and Palin have one thing in common; they both make me want to vote for John McCain.)
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To: GunRunner

I may get in trouble for posting this info, but the new weapon is Chuck Norris.

http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/chuck_norris.jpg


47 posted on 09/09/2008 1:57:34 PM PDT by jakerobins
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“Isn’t the war on terror a terrorist killing program in it self?”

***

And that’s exactly what’s wrong with it!

Why ... killing them is almost as bad as
frightening ‘em with snarling dogs
or denying them habeas corpus.


48 posted on 09/09/2008 2:15:44 PM PDT by Eleutherios
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To: fontoon

good idea


49 posted on 09/09/2008 2:35:01 PM PDT by 4.6V8
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To: Lancey Howard

Sorry Lancy, but you’ll never convince me of that one. Woodward was a shill for Clinton the whole way through his impeachment process. So was Bernstein. Oh he never did anything wrong. It was all a witch hunt.

These two were Katheryn Graham’s little lap dogs during the Nixon years.

They went after Nixon for the good of the nation. They ignored Clinton because there was nothing there. B.S.

If nothing else, there was clear evidence of witness tampering with Monica BlewHimsky involving Richardson and Jordan. Woodward was too busy kissing Clinton’s hindquarters to notice.


50 posted on 09/09/2008 2:38:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac President.)
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