Posted on 09/09/2008 4:41:46 PM PDT by AuntB
What do you think the tens of thousands of other Mexican gangs that enter the U.S. are?
They are just hispanic ‘Community Organizers’!
One difference I see with at least some of these hispanic gangs is a genocidal bent.
Not much...
But, from what I’ve been reading — MS13 is larger, more universally violent, nearly all are illegal aliens and they’re costing us a fortune in many ways....
They are the cockroaches....and need immediate extermination before the place becomes unlivable.
Ya leave your borders wide open and actually publicly encourage people to enter illegally, like Bush has, and this is what ya get.
No one should be surprised by all this violent lawlessness.
Problem is thousands of these violent cockroaches are mixed into the conga-line of millions of other illegals the government is waving through...As the greedy business owners throw campaign money at the politicians, to ensure their low wage golden goose is not killed.
That he continues to leave the Southern border wide open remains proof that when GWB says he cares about the WOT, he's blowing presidential smoke up our asses.
Same as McCain's: Hide behind the walls of his state and leave all us pissants not fortunate enough to marry a beer heiress to fend for ourselves. At least Obambi doesn't have the gall to tell half-wittedly tell us that they're "God's children."
Our Government is doing a poor job of guarding our borders.
Eventually it is going to come down to cowboys and MS-13’s .
Exactly, and the sell out of America is nonpartisan fueled by corporate n special interest $$$.
Just shoot them.
Well, since they advertise themselves like walking billboards they should not be hard to identify and destroy.
I’m pretty well prepared. Check my FR home page. The more effective hardware is not shown.
No, it is a terrorist organization, read the FTO standards for a Terror Group, MS13 meets every threshold.
Legal Criteria for Designation under Section 219 of the INA as amended
1. It must be a foreign organization.
2. The organization must engage in terrorist activity, as defined in section 212 (a)(3)(B) of the INA (8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)),* or terrorism, as defined in section 140(d)(2) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1988 and 1989 (22 U.S.C. § 2656f(d)(2)),** or retain the capability and intent to engage in terrorist activity or terrorism.
3. The organization’s terrorist activity or terrorism must threaten the security of U.S. nationals or the national security (national defense, foreign relations, or the economic interests) of the United States.
Which takes us over to Section 212
* Section 212(a)(3)(B) of the INA defines “terrorist activity” to mean: “any activity which is unlawful under the laws of the place where it is committed (or which, if committed in the United States, would be unlawful under the laws of the United States or any State) and which involves any of the following:
(I) The highjacking or sabotage of any conveyance (including an aircraft, vessel, or vehicle).
(II) The seizing or detaining, and threatening to kill, injure, or continue to detain, another individual in order to compel a third person (including a governmental organization) to do or abstain from doing any act as an explicit or implicit condition for the release of the individual seized or detained.
(III) A violent attack upon an internationally protected person (as defined in section 1116(b)(4) of title 18, United States Code) or upon the liberty of such a person.
(IV) An assassination.
(V) The use of any—
(a) biological agent, chemical agent, or nuclear weapon or device, or
(b) explosive, firearm, or other weapon or dangerous device (other than for mere personal monetary gain), with intent to endanger, directly or indirectly, the safety of one or more individuals or to cause substantial damage to property.
(VI) A threat, attempt, or conspiracy to do any of the foregoing.”
Bottom line, they meet the threshold as a terror group, not JUST A STREET gang...they are an army. An occupying Army.
more here:
http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/37191.htm
But tell me, if you and your family are driving down the road, and gangsters decided they want your vehicle as you stop for a red light, and shoot you in the face, murder your kids, rape and kill your wife....What is the difference between them, and your typical terrorist running around the dusty alleys of Baghdad?
In #54 you stated: "No, it is a terrorist organization".
Which is it?
I'll tell ya what these cockroaches are.
They're violent criminals, typical street gangsters, most of whom live in the senseless murder districts. There is little difference between these violent organized gangs, and your typical terrorist, both of which will kill you for little or no reason.
uh, that’s my point.
Reread post 4— the argument is that they are MORE than a street gang, that they are a terrorist organization and should be dealt with accordingly. It is pretty clear if you read 4 again.
Then what the hell are they?
You think these guys are fanatical religious freaks that would kill the greedy mart cashier for being Christian and leave the money in the register?
What the hell are you talking about here?
Gezzz...
And to be clear, they're ain't a lot of difference between these cockroaches and the cockroaches running around the back alleys of Baghdad.
Call them whatever you want.
Bottom line, you can thank and directly blame your own government for this violent open border lawlessness.
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