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MSNBC LIVE POLL: Did Sen. Barack Obama go too far with his 'lipstick on a pig' remark? [FReep It!]
MSNBC ^ | 9/10/08

Posted on 09/10/2008 4:46:35 PM PDT by XR7

LIVE VOTE

Do you think Sen. Barack Obama went too far with his 'lipstick on a pig' remark?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26637798/

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FReep it!
1 posted on 09/10/2008 4:46:36 PM PDT by XR7
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To: knighthawk

FReeping ping.


2 posted on 09/10/2008 4:47:25 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

Oh, just a bit!

*******
Obama being called out for referring to small town voters as clinging to their guns and religion.

Political hacks masquerading as newsmen, Olbermann and Matthews, being put on a short leash by MSNBC.

Obama not being able to slide under the radar after using the sexist term, ‘lipstick on a pig’.

The party that foisted political correctness on America now having to walk on eggshells...
PRICELESS!


3 posted on 09/10/2008 4:49:00 PM PDT by anonsquared
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To: XR7
It has been freeped:






"Better to be wanted by the police than not wanted at all."

Anonymous

4 posted on 09/10/2008 4:49:38 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: XR7

You can give someone with ZERO major accomplishments a great speech on Hope and Change, but he will still have ZERO major accomplishments.


5 posted on 09/10/2008 4:50:18 PM PDT by igoramus08
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To: XR7

freeped

pong


6 posted on 09/10/2008 4:50:38 PM PDT by mountaineer1997
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To: anonsquared

up to 32% lots more needed to top out.


7 posted on 09/10/2008 4:51:23 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: XR7
I heard the remark on Hannity, Rush and Medved. I think that Obama was referring to policies of President Bush, however, the audience did not. They got the innuendo on both Sarah and McCain (pig with lipstick and dead fish) ... so Obama is not in the clear on this - others have said “well McCain said the same thing about a pig with lipstick” - but - with Obama it was right after Sarah said she was a pit bull with lipstick ... and the audience was shouting “pit bull with lipstick (or something like that).

Obama and the Demo-rats really stepped in it this time. Just who is running Obama anyway - allowing him to make gaff's like that?????

8 posted on 09/10/2008 4:52:17 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Warning - Hurricane Sarah Is Coming")
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To: XR7

Donebeengot


9 posted on 09/10/2008 4:52:25 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: dynachrome

Ping pong


10 posted on 09/10/2008 4:52:27 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: XR7

Waste of time. MSNBC just trying to get hits to their website.


11 posted on 09/10/2008 4:54:34 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: XR7

The question is.......what would Obama have done if someone had made those comments about his wife?

Would he have accepted a politician giving the finger to his wife or his daughters?


12 posted on 09/10/2008 4:55:08 PM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............)
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To: XR7

Those that believe it’s just the rough and tumble of politics would have no issue with a KKKer saying that putting a suite on an African bushman does not make him civil.


13 posted on 09/10/2008 4:56:13 PM PDT by NoLibZone (All Democrats must be rationed fuel to reduce their hypocrisy about global warming.)
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To: anonsquared

“The party that foisted political correctness on America now having to walk on eggshells . . . PRICELESS.”

Bears repeating. I cannot believe they are SO SEXIST!!

Hold their feet to the fire !


14 posted on 09/10/2008 4:57:50 PM PDT by Twinkie (OBAMA - "The Mystery Man")
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To: XR7

freeped!

Do you think Sen. Barack Obama went too far with his ‘lipstick on a pig’ remark? * 194227 responses

Yes, he has crossed the line this time.
32%

No, this is just part of the rough-and-tumble of political campaigning.
66%

I don’t know.
1.6%


15 posted on 09/10/2008 4:58:09 PM PDT by Ros42
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To: XR7

Done and done!


16 posted on 09/10/2008 4:58:25 PM PDT by RalphB
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To: XR7; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; V V Camp Enari 67-68; ..
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

17 posted on 09/10/2008 4:58:32 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: XR7
When most people step in it, they excuse themselves and find someplace to wipe off the bottom of their shoe.

When Batack Obama steps in it, he barges into your fron door, wipes his shoes all over your brand-new carpet, and then proclaims loudly into a camera that he meant to do that, and it's good for the environment.

He is redefining clueless.

18 posted on 09/10/2008 4:58:38 PM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: XR7

FReeped it. Here are the results right now:

Do you think Sen. Barack Obama went too far with his ‘lipstick on a pig’ remark?

* 194155 responses

Yes, he has crossed the line this time. = 32%

No, this is just part of the rough-and-tumble of political campaigning. = 66%

I don’t know. = 1.6%


19 posted on 09/10/2008 4:58:47 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: anonsquared
Obama not being able to slide under the radar after using the sexist term, ‘lipstick on a pig’.


Hey anonsquared


Meet the Pig!

20 posted on 09/10/2008 4:59:37 PM PDT by B-Cause (It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived.)
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To: XR7

NO, he didn’t go too far. He needs to be more aggressive against that liar, Sarah Palin.


21 posted on 09/10/2008 5:01:04 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

ACCOUNT SUSPENDED

LOL!!!


22 posted on 09/10/2008 5:05:57 PM PDT by XR7
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To: Cboldt
Sarah Palin will kick B Obama's butt up between his shoulder blades. Go Obama show us your stuff. Bring your A game. LOL
23 posted on 09/10/2008 5:08:50 PM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: XR7
"Do you think Sen. Barack Obama went too far with his 'lipstick on a pig' remark? "

Of course he did. He was saying that when Sarah Palin says she is going to Washington to "CHANGE" things, like foreign policy etc etc; it isn't "CHANGE", (then what is?) It's just lipstick on a pig. Sarah Palin is just another "pig" (with lipstick) going to washington saying she's going to change things. He couldn't have meant anything else, because changing foriegn policy, and changing domestic policies on a variety of issues IS change.

Not only did he call sarah a pig with lipstick, He called her a LYING pig with lipstick.

24 posted on 09/10/2008 5:09:49 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: oyez
-- Sarah Palin will kick B Obama's butt up between his shoulder blades. --

I know. I just figure the folks who run and patronize MSNBC are dumb enough to take bad advice and run with it - I'm just carrying some amplified bad advice to them.

25 posted on 09/10/2008 5:12:04 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: XR7
Do you think Sen. Barack Obama went too far with his 'lipstick on a pig' remark?   * 195194 responses
Yes, he has crossed the line this time.
32%
No, this is just part of the rough-and-tumble of political campaigning.
66%
I don't know.
1.6%

26 posted on 09/10/2008 5:13:30 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SkyDancer
"I heard the remark on Hannity, Rush and Medved. I think that Obama was referring to policies of President Bush..."

Not! He was talking specifically about McCain and Palin going to Washington and "changing" how things are done there. "That isn't change" he said. "that's just lipstick on a pig". How anyone can construe that to mean he was talking about the Bush admin is beyond belief.

27 posted on 09/10/2008 5:16:21 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: XR7

MSNBC? You gotta be kidding.Demented Waldo (K.O.) is probably at the keyboard furiously voting hundreds of times.


28 posted on 09/10/2008 5:22:44 PM PDT by Carl LaFong (Building Code Under Fire)
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To: All
HERE'S THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN'S AD "LIPSTICK" WHICH CBS PRESSURED YOUTUBE TO TAKE DOWN:


"LIPSTICK"

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Multimedia/Player.aspx?guid=410e4d05-c615-4366-b5ae-09784dd9b169

29 posted on 09/10/2008 5:23:50 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7
Lipstick Pig Cartoon
30 posted on 09/10/2008 5:24:09 PM PDT by AwesomePossum (A man always has two reasons for doing something, a good reason and the real reason.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
The first I heard of it was on a talk show - I can see the innuendo referring to Sarah and McCain - and heard Obama’s explanation of it - but - it was the audience that caught it that Obama was specifically referring to Sarah and McCain and I agree with you - the reference to lipstick on a pig is an old political expression - as Rush explained. But - Obama knew exactly what he was referring to ... the MSM not withstanding .....

Jane

31 posted on 09/10/2008 5:27:11 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Warning - Hurricane Sarah Is Coming")
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To: Cboldt

...operating scatter shield and handing pistol to C for self destruction

32 posted on 09/10/2008 5:31:00 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: XR7

33 posted on 09/10/2008 5:33:08 PM PDT by blondee123 (Vote for the HERO, not the ZERO! Is PRESENT a vote???)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Hi - I pulled this off World Net Daily just a few minutes ago.

Obama stated yesterday:

“’Watch out, George Bush, except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics – we’re really going to shake things up in Washington!’ That’s not change ... you know, you can put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig.”

There was a political cartoon re: Sarah and McCain and in part McCain said:”

WND ELECTION 2008
Obama plagiarized ‘lipstick speech’?
Comments almost word-for-word copy of Washington Post political cartoon
Posted: September 10, 2008
4:23 pm Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Remarks by Sen. Barack Obama yesterday leading up to his controversial “lipstick on a pig” jab at the McCain campaign mirror almost word-for-word a political cartoon published last week in the Washington Post.

Much has been made of Obama criticizing McCain’s idea of “change” by stating, “You can put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig.” Taking it as an attack McCain’s vice-presidential running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin, the campaign responded with a video on the Internet today.

But less attention has been paid to Obama’s statements just preceding the lipstick reference, which appear to be an un-attributed copy of the caption in a Washington Post political cartoon by Tom Toles Sept. 5.

Obama stated yesterday:

“’Watch out, George Bush, except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics – we’re really going to shake things up in Washington!’ That’s not change ... you know, you can put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig.”

(Story continues below)

The political cartoon, also mocking McCain’s and Palin’s concept of change, stated four days earlier:

“Watch out, Mr. Bush! With the exception of economic policy and energy policy and social issues and tax policy and foreign policy and Supreme Court appointments and Rove-style politics, we’re coming in there to shake things up!”

The similarities between the cartoon and Obama’s speech were first noticed by users at the Free Republic website.

Read the whole thing on World Net Daily.

R/Jane


34 posted on 09/10/2008 5:33:21 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Warning - Hurricane Sarah Is Coming")
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To: XR7

35 posted on 09/10/2008 5:36:29 PM PDT by blondee123 (Vote for the HERO, not the ZERO! Is PRESENT a vote???)
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To: Nathan Zachary
ps - this from a Democrat website: The official website of the Democratic Party has a blog posting entitled, "McCain's Selection of Palin is Lipstick on a Pig," illustrated by an altered photograph of a pig with makeup, designer glasses and pearls. "Palin is a red herring, lipstick on the Republican pig to distract Americans from the real issue that under the leadership of the Republicans the last 8 years, our country is falling apart," writes the blogger, Elizabeth Berry, a self-described 49-year-old "progressive" from Texas. Photobucket Image Hosting The Dems had this image on their website .....
36 posted on 09/10/2008 5:36:55 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Warning - Hurricane Sarah Is Coming")
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To: XR7
Obama's audience certainly heard it the same way the Republicans did.

Hence Obama is either vicious or stupid.

If he simply recited an old adage which he has used in the past, then he is stupid for not noticing that a line that used to get a yawn or a giggle suddenly caused the crowd to erupt in shouts and shrieks of laughter.

Or he is just vicious for using a slur yesterday, and not apologizing for it today.

37 posted on 09/10/2008 5:37:48 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: SkyDancer

Palin’s statement said hockey moms were LIKE pitbulls, not that they WERE pit bulls. Obama’s statement flat out calls Palin a pig and McCain an old fish. Palin was understood to be talking about the tenacity and strength of a pit bull. Obama had no such qualification implied in his remark. It was simply a mean spirited attack.


38 posted on 09/10/2008 5:38:58 PM PDT by Burkean
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To: XR7

Yes, he has crossed the line this time.
32%
No, this is just part of the rough-and-tumble of political campaigning.
66%
I don’t know.
1.6%


39 posted on 09/10/2008 5:41:34 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Vote McWhatshisname and PALIN)
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To: Burkean

And I agree ....


40 posted on 09/10/2008 5:42:41 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Warning - Hurricane Sarah Is Coming")
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To: XR7

Freeped!


41 posted on 09/10/2008 5:46:39 PM PDT by eaglestar
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To: XR7

Freeped. And this one needs some SERIOUS Freeping!


42 posted on 09/10/2008 5:47:56 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: SkyDancer
All the references were to Governor Palin. Obama is obsessed.
43 posted on 09/10/2008 5:56:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

How can one person shoot himself in the foot so many times and still be able to walk ... oh, I forgot, he’s the messiah!

(small ‘m’ intentional)


44 posted on 09/10/2008 6:00:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Warning - Hurricane Sarah Is Coming")
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To: XR7

I tried to vote “yes” on this poll twice and it froze me out. Maybe most of the “yes” votes aren’t getting counted.


45 posted on 09/10/2008 6:02:01 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("I don't know of a single thing Obama has done except talk and write". -- Newt Gingrich)
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To: XR7

I voted NO. I don’t see this as coming close to a smear. The Libs have done far far worse to SP (especially) and JM.

I’d like to see JM/SP focus on “who can you trust for change, who has a record for change, who stands up to corruption, who do you trust to stand up to terrorists, who will aggressively cut wasteful spending saving taxpayers money, who will lead to enery independence, etc”

I think the day was wasted by JM campaign on this. there are plenty of good issues to clobber BHO on. Sex ed for kindergartners pushed by BHO also needs to be highlighted for a day or so as further proof that BHO is out of touch.

Debate issues aggressively but fairly and we will win.


46 posted on 09/10/2008 6:04:58 PM PDT by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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To: XR7

Lets stop wasting our time on MSNBC polls. This is home base for the anti-American, Olberman worshiping screwballs.


47 posted on 09/10/2008 6:07:56 PM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: Piers-the-Ploughman
You're worried about Obama peddling sex ed for kindergarteners yet you don't understand what it means when he uses language equating a woman to a "fish"?

It's of the same piece ~ the kiddie sex ed, the homosexual bath-house phraseology, the ride in the limo with Larry Sinclair.

48 posted on 09/10/2008 6:14:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Someone said tonight that McCain/Palin should not let her be portrayed as a victim. Conservatives are not victims. I think that is a good point. She needs to be able to give them a comeback with humor like Reagan used to do.


49 posted on 09/10/2008 6:43:53 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: All

Freeparoni

Freepathon

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50 posted on 09/10/2008 6:50:21 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Democrats fear Sarah Palin like they feared Clarence Thomas)
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