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New poll: Despite Palin, Obama leads in Ohio
cleveland.com ^ | 9/11/01 | Stephen Koff

Posted on 09/11/2008 4:42:44 AM PDT by bigcat32

WASHINGTON -- When a new Rasmussen poll this week showed John McCain with a healthy lead in Ohio, the head of the Ohio Democratic Party observed that polls come, and polls go. He wasn't kidding.

A new Quinnipiac University poll of Ohio this morning puts Barack Obama ahead in this swing state, not McCain.

Quinnipiac University assistant polling director Peter Brown explains why:

"Sen. McCain and Sen. Obama are getting the same level of party loyalty and the Republican is even winning slightly among independents. But Obama is ahead because there are so many more people who identify as Democrats -- a legacy of the 2006 election and scandals involving former Gov. Robert Taft's administration."

(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; mccainpalin; obamabiden; poll
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Rasmussen's latest poll has McCain by 7 in Ohio.
1 posted on 09/11/2008 4:42:44 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: bigcat32
A new Quinnipiac University poll of Ohio this morning puts Barack Obama ahead in this swing state, not McCain.

I'll stick with Rasmussen, thank you. Quinnipiac is a notable outlier to the left side of polling, probably by design.

2 posted on 09/11/2008 4:43:48 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: bigcat32

Something screwy about these polls.


3 posted on 09/11/2008 4:43:59 AM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: bigcat32

I read this poll hours ago, and I think it’s completely wrong. Ohio is for McCain.


4 posted on 09/11/2008 4:45:04 AM PDT by tomymind
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To: bigcat32

Obama up by five? sounds more like a manufactured poll to give dems a pick me up


5 posted on 09/11/2008 4:45:33 AM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: bigcat32
Quinnipiac was ranked near the very bottom for accuracy the last election.
6 posted on 09/11/2008 4:46:32 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: bigcat32

Whistling past the graveyard.


7 posted on 09/11/2008 4:47:15 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Tom Manion USMC '08!!)
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To: dirtboy

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/election_2008_electoral_college_update


8 posted on 09/11/2008 4:48:09 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: bigcat32

they may need to update their party ID estimates


9 posted on 09/11/2008 4:48:58 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: bigcat32
This is manufactured. The corrupt news media wants nothing more then to run the story about how Obama is coming back.
10 posted on 09/11/2008 4:50:07 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: bigcat32

Please essss cuse me if I don’t believe this.

I hope Obambi Oblabi Hussein loses SO BIG on election day that I will even go to church, leave a donation, light candles, sing hymns and get down on my knees to Thank God and the powers that be, and I’m not a religious man.


11 posted on 09/11/2008 4:50:45 AM PDT by garyhope (It's world war IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam. VRWC. TWP.)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

“Obama up by five? sounds more like a manufactured poll to give dems a pick me up”

I agree. They probably oversampled Dems but their website didn’t give data about their sample. This sounds bogus.


12 posted on 09/11/2008 4:51:11 AM PDT by bigcat32
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dirtboy And we all know who won!


13 posted on 09/11/2008 4:52:07 AM PDT by tomymind
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To: bigcat32
Like the man said...McCain is up by 7 according to ras/fox
14 posted on 09/11/2008 4:52:53 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Obama on the other hand does not know the Lord Jesus, and is only the Lords enemy)
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To: savedbygrace
very interesting stuff. It looks like everything is shifting our way right now. Even Wisconsin and Oregon are trending toward us.

If 0bama's internals show the same thing we should really start seeing some desperation out there.

15 posted on 09/11/2008 4:52:58 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

Bingo. This poll is to stop the bleeding at DU and Kos.


16 posted on 09/11/2008 4:54:07 AM PDT by freeplancer
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To: bigcat32

Freeper poll-watching: the easiest way to lose 20 pounds in sweat by 11/4.


17 posted on 09/11/2008 4:54:25 AM PDT by ajwharton
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To: bigcat32

No data about sample and say McCain is not wining enough whites in PA and Ohio, what bull, thats rubbish.

The fact these pollsters work from a university in CT just about explains it for me.


18 posted on 09/11/2008 4:56:47 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: bigcat32

Q poll is embarrassing sometimes. McCain is leading in Ohio.


19 posted on 09/11/2008 4:57:07 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (This gun for hire)
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To: babble-on
they may need to update their party ID estimates

Indeed. I'll bet that they don't account for "Operation Chaos", in which many Rush Limbaugh listeners switched their registration from GOP to RAT just so they could vote for Hillary Clinton. Impact of OC on Ohio was significant.
20 posted on 09/11/2008 4:57:18 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: bigcat32

I try not to watch polls much until we are on top of the election.


21 posted on 09/11/2008 4:58:12 AM PDT by dforest
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To: All

I think Ohio needs to see Mr. Palin, in his hiking boots and blue work shirt, around Youngstown, Dayton, Lima and Toledo. That would help solidify. Send Sarah to Athens.

The only thing keeping Obama afloat are Ohio and Pennsylvania’s dem governors going all out for him.


22 posted on 09/11/2008 4:58:30 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: beckysueb


It's all about the spin...
23 posted on 09/11/2008 4:58:36 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: dirtboy

The Quinnipiac poll is run by the Political Science Department of Quinnipiac University. Enough said.


24 posted on 09/11/2008 5:00:05 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: advance_copy

Look at their internals. In Fl and PA they are showing men favoring McCain by 10 or so; in OH, they are showing men tied for McCain and BO. No way! This would be the only poll showing men equally in favor of BO as McCain. This would only be true in the liberal meccas like Mass.


25 posted on 09/11/2008 5:02:10 AM PDT by Beeman
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To: bigcat32
It is impossible for Obama to win Ohio, the demographics are against him. McCain will Ohio by 52% to Obama 47%.
26 posted on 09/11/2008 5:04:18 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: Beeman

Are they saying there isn’t enough Testosteron in Ohio?


27 posted on 09/11/2008 5:05:02 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: beckysueb

I had someone call me and asked who I would vote for. Her inflection told me I gave the wrong answer and I wonder if she put the right one down.


28 posted on 09/11/2008 5:08:17 AM PDT by Radl (rtr)
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To: dirtboy

Quinnipiac is heavily laced with College socialist/brainwashed students that conduct their surveys. They frequently do this. They make up much of Daily Kos, DU and the like. They “cherry pick” interviews and load the results in their favor.

Surveys such as this are not worth the time it takes to report them. Rasmussen is the best poll to watch this stage of the election. (But then, you know that...)


29 posted on 09/11/2008 5:08:33 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Sara Palin; The Orca in a bay of Democrat Belugas!)
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To: garyhope

Loved your post. I hope Obama concedes while they are still voting in California, as Carter did in 1980, so I can go out in my driveway and lean on my car horn the way I did back then.


30 posted on 09/11/2008 5:08:45 AM PDT by 19th LA Inf
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To: dirtboy

Those Quinnipiac polls are so far to the left the bell curve is flat lined...


31 posted on 09/11/2008 5:10:58 AM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: bigcat32

Candidates have their own polling that they require to be accurate.

So see what they do and peg your emotional currency accordingly.


32 posted on 09/11/2008 5:11:33 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Sarah Palin in 2008, 2012, and 2016!)
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To: Fresh Wind
Whistling past the graveyard.

That's probably who they polled. After all, they will be voting in the election :-)

33 posted on 09/11/2008 5:17:25 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: jveritas

“It is impossible for Obama to win Ohio, the demographics are against him. McCain will Ohio by 52% to Obama 47%.”

I live in communist Cuyahoga County and I personally know many Dems who will flat out NOT VOTE for Obama.


34 posted on 09/11/2008 5:17:41 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: bigcat32

Approximately 20% of the democrats nation wide will not vote for Obama and that is why he has zero chance of becoming President.


35 posted on 09/11/2008 5:22:21 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: bigcat32

There’s only one poll that counts and that is held in November.


36 posted on 09/11/2008 5:23:44 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: bigcat32

Sorry for not going through the entire article.When was this poll taken? State polls are updated less frequently compared to national polls.


37 posted on 09/11/2008 5:23:54 AM PDT by sidewinder009
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To: Camel Joe
After the first debate, even the liberal polls will have a hard time showing Obambi within the margin of error behind McCain. The fool can't handle himself without a teleprompter, nor can he deal with the tough questions and responses that come from a challenger who doesn't have to suck up to African-American votes.

The media bubble that protected Barry has been popped, its been losing air since the Republican convention, and will be noticably flattened after the two candidates meet on the debate battlefield. They can't protect him forever.

38 posted on 09/11/2008 5:24:48 AM PDT by hunter112 (Gov. Palin is ten times the woman Hillary could've hoped to be, if she had stayed a "Goldwater Girl")
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To: normy

Dan Rather will soon offer to save Obama, with a derring-do expose. Maybe a Palin memo to the Alaska Natl Guard.


39 posted on 09/11/2008 5:26:28 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: beckysueb
Something screwy about these polls.

You just noticed this? The polls during the primiaries were only one half correct.

40 posted on 09/11/2008 5:30:13 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Vote McWhatshisname and PALIN)
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To: bigcat32

I had a one-person poll here in Ohio. My dem mother switched from “solid-Obama” to “leaning-McCain” immediately following “PigGate”. When I say “solid-Obama”, I mean that we had extremely heated debates that probably scared my kids and had my sister threaten to put us in separate rooms.

Mom is in the white 60+ woman who watches more American Idol then politics demographic. In my opinion, this is the demographic “PigGate” will have an effect on. It took me up until election day to get her to vote for President Bush in 2000 and 2004. She’s moving over about 50 days earlier this cycle.


41 posted on 09/11/2008 5:34:40 AM PDT by mmichaels1970 (Stand up for CHUCK!)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
Obama up by five? sounds more like a manufactured poll to give dems a pick me up

This reflects the 'bounce' Zer0bama got from the lipstick comments. Keep it up, Zer0! that's a winning message.

42 posted on 09/11/2008 5:35:08 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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To: sidewinder009

The poll was released this morning or last night.


43 posted on 09/11/2008 5:35:46 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: bigcat32
What a shame. I went to post a comment at the link and got:

Comments are not active for this entry
44 posted on 09/11/2008 5:36:46 AM PDT by mmichaels1970 (Stand up for CHUCK!)
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To: mmichaels1970

“What a shame. I went to post a comment at the link and got:Comments are not active for this entry”

Click the link that takes you to the full story where you can post a comment.


45 posted on 09/11/2008 5:38:27 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: babble-on

Bingo! If they’re still assuming that party id is today what it was even 30 days ago they’re way off.


46 posted on 09/11/2008 5:38:42 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: bigcat32

“But Obama is ahead because there are so many more people who identify as Democrats”

Check the internals. To me this says “we called a whole lot more Denocrats in the poll.”


47 posted on 09/11/2008 5:43:17 AM PDT by piytar
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To: bigcat32
Click the link that takes you to the full story where you can post a comment.

Got it. Thanks.
48 posted on 09/11/2008 5:43:31 AM PDT by mmichaels1970 (Stand up for CHUCK!)
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To: bigcat32
Obama has pulled out of Georgia, the pipe dream of carrying Montana and North Carolina has vanished.

Now a phony poll to buck-up the troops in Ohio.

Thanks for telegraphing your electoral college strategy, boys.

49 posted on 09/11/2008 5:50:28 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: bigcat32
This is completely anecdotal, but I live in Wayne County Ohio. We have been having our county fair this week. As I walked around munching fair fries and perusing the exhibits, I was taking a little self poll. There were McCain/Palin stickers on peoples chest everywhere. I saw only one Obama (t-shirt) on a high school kid with spiked hair and face piercings. Wayne County is typically heavy Republican, but I have never seen this kind of lopsidedness.
50 posted on 09/11/2008 5:56:09 AM PDT by Heman11 (the truth is not relative)
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