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He canít win. He wonít win. It is over
The Collins Report ^ | September 11, 2008 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 09/11/2008 5:55:32 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

Since February I have been saying that Barack Obama would get crushed in this year’s presidential election. … The signs of trouble for the Democrats have always been there…

….Today it is no longer “wishful thinking” or “proof you have been smoking something” to say John McCain will crush Barack Obama.

..here are the numbers that say it is over..

To win Obama must get these numbers with these groups:

..women, he needs at least plus 7. He is down 12.

White males needs at least 36%. If he gets 30% he will be lucky

Catholics: needs 50%. He is down 59/36.

Evangelicals: needs 71%. He is running against an Evangelical and has nothing to offer these Christian voters.

Jewish vote: needs 80%. He is at 57%.

Black vote: needs 95%. Zogby says he has “lost support” among Black voters.

Hispanic vote: needs 65%. The only polls available show he is at 65% so that won’t help, it will only slow the bleeding.

Democrat base support: needs 92%. He is at 86%.

Independents: needs 49%. He is losing 52/37.

This one is over. On Monday September 29, 2008 at about 5 PM when the last weekend polls come in, the numbers will spell doom for the Democrats. On September 30, 2008 the McCain Palin campaign must plan on switching gears and start asking for votes to give them a Republican Congress. It could keep the margin down and keep us safe from the Democrats for another two years.

..there will only be four elected Democrats who will be happy on Nov. 5, the Clintons, George McGovern and Walter Mondale because Barack Obama will take them off the hook as having taken the worse beatings in history


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With the two Democrats trying to out do each other with stupid comments it may be over sooner but September 29, 2008 is my guess on the end of the Obama era.
1 posted on 09/11/2008 5:55:33 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37
Zogby says he has “lost support” among Black voters.

Really?

2 posted on 09/11/2008 5:56:55 AM PDT by library user
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To: jmaroneps37; Norman Bates

Let’s hope he’s right.


3 posted on 09/11/2008 5:57:16 AM PDT by Perdogg (Maverick - Barracuda 2008)
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To: jmaroneps37

It isn’t over until the last ACORN fraud vote is cast.


4 posted on 09/11/2008 5:58:53 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Palin 2008 (oh yeah, and McCain too))
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To: jmaroneps37

Second Stage: we need to press more to ensure we optimize GOP seats in Congress. If not add to, at least keep the current split.


5 posted on 09/11/2008 5:59:13 AM PDT by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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To: jmaroneps37

Do not misunderestimate the depths to which the backers of these people will stoop to secure the White House of the the United States of America.


6 posted on 09/11/2008 5:59:50 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: jmaroneps37

I bet Soros is farting ducks.


7 posted on 09/11/2008 6:00:30 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Its Wasilla, NOT Wasilia, Wassala or Wasalia.)
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To: jmaroneps37
I agree its over. I called the election last Wednesday night. If you look at the internals, Obama is bleeding supporting in every category. Forget the nationals, forget the state by state polls. I don't need them to tell me the election is over. The internals are instructive and so is Obama's conduct on the campaign trail.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 09/11/2008 6:00:50 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: library user

This doesn’t mean he won’t still get 95%, but many won’t take the trouble to vote more than twice. If the electoral count is close, my guess is Illinois will have technical difficulties delaying their count.


9 posted on 09/11/2008 6:01:25 AM PDT by steve8714 (Sarah was picked for the base. Period.)
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To: jmaroneps37

I don’t believe in complacency. It’s nice to hope it’s over, but because of the EC, we can’t assume it.


10 posted on 09/11/2008 6:01:30 AM PDT by Dawn531
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To: jmaroneps37
I agree its over. I called the election last Wednesday night. If you look at the internals, Obama is bleeding support in every category. Forget the nationals, forget the state by state polls. I don't need them to tell me the election is over. The internals are instructive and so is Obama's conduct on the campaign trail.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 09/11/2008 6:01:33 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jmaroneps37

His defeat, although not certain yet, should be such that he will never contemplate running for POTUS again in the future.


12 posted on 09/11/2008 6:02:06 AM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Maybe true, but RATs manufacture votes. Vote fraud may well dominate this election.


13 posted on 09/11/2008 6:02:59 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: jmaroneps37

September 29, 2008 is my guess on the end of the Obama era...

...you may be correct, but victory is written with electoral votes, which pay little attention to percentages, being all or none, for each state...extremely dumb system, IMHO...if 49% of Pennsylvanians vote Pub, why shouldn’t 49% of EV’s go to them...but I digress...tell me, which of the Kerry states will McCain flip in order to acheive this remarkable landslide victory?


14 posted on 09/11/2008 6:03:13 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: 353FMG
Its starting to look that way. It would be quite a pleasure to see him buried in a landslide. And while we're at it, I hope the American people send the do nothing Democratic Congress packing!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

15 posted on 09/11/2008 6:04:33 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: library user; jmaroneps37
Zogby says he has “lost support” among Black voters.

S'truth. The Magic Marxist Mulatto Messiah has fallen from 99.98% to a shockingly low 99.89%.

16 posted on 09/11/2008 6:04:53 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Drill. Double Refining Capacity. Make METHANOL from Coal, NG, Nuclear ..let's roll.)
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To: jmaroneps37
This one is over.

I knew it was over once he secured the nomination.

17 posted on 09/11/2008 6:05:19 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: steve8714

If Barack Obama is held below 110% of the black vote, I will be very surprised.


18 posted on 09/11/2008 6:05:24 AM PDT by gridlock (Sarah Palin knows how to kick butt or bake cookies.... And she's all out of flour!)
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To: jmaroneps37

While these stats may be a morale booster, they really mean little to nothing. Electoral votes are what really count so one needs to have a rundown, by state, to have a sense of where things are. National stats don’t get it.


19 posted on 09/11/2008 6:05:24 AM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: library user

Zogby may be correct; not that Obama has lost support among Black voters but the Democrats base may be so disheartened that they may not show up at the polls. This would lower the numbers of Black voters and could spell some trouble for the Democrats wanting to expand in the House and Senate.

This is an opportunity for the Republicans to focus on the issue of Energy and Reform. Let’s hope they’re smart enough to take this ball and run with it. It’s getting late in the game.


20 posted on 09/11/2008 6:06:00 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: library user

The blacks I know at first were going to vote him but now won’t. They think he has laughed at them in that he is a clown of a candidate and not someone blacks can respect.


21 posted on 09/11/2008 6:06:27 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: AlphaOneAlpha

Yep, we just have to pray for low voter fraud this time around.


22 posted on 09/11/2008 6:06:41 AM PDT by Cheryllynn
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To: IrishBrigade
If all the wheels come off his bandwagon, his strongest supporters will not be motivated to come out to vote. There could be a few surprises along the way. The Democratic Party is not all that popular with most of the country.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

23 posted on 09/11/2008 6:06:56 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jmaroneps37
Black vote: needs 95%. Zogby says he has “lost support” among Black voters.

I'm not buying that one. There is good news though...new polling has McCain ahead by 5 in Virginia. I heard it on the radio this morning...just a teaser so I don't know who's poll it is.

24 posted on 09/11/2008 6:07:07 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: jmaroneps37

It is all about turnout. Obama and the Dems have built an impressive on the ground network in virtually every state, the produce of a highly contested primary that went down to the wire with every state counting. Such happy talk as this underestimates the Dem base and their ability to get out the base.


25 posted on 09/11/2008 6:07:27 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: 353FMG
"His defeat, although not certain yet, should be such that he will never contemplate running for POTUS again in the future."

There would have to be a 49 state landslide for McCain for this to happen. I just don't see it. Obama will be within 30 electoral votes for sure. McCain might get 54% of the vote max.

With that in mind, you can almost count on a Clinton/Obama showdown in 2012 for the Democratic nod. My guess is that the Dems give the nod to Clinton this time. Now, does McCain just go one term and make Palin the automatic front runner for the Republican no? Clinton vs. Palin, that could be one for the ages.
26 posted on 09/11/2008 6:08:09 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: jmaroneps37

I was not aware that the Elecotral College gave votes to “Catholics”, “Evangelicals”, “Jews”, “Blacks”, etc. I thought it went by states.


27 posted on 09/11/2008 6:08:16 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: HarleyD
Better late than never. I don't think the Dems and the MSM are going to see it coming. They never do!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

28 posted on 09/11/2008 6:08:20 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: kabar

the product vice produce


29 posted on 09/11/2008 6:08:29 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: jmaroneps37

I pretty much agree with this guy, at least about the presidential race and have believed since the primaries that Fauxbama had ZERO chance of winning, and that if he got 40% during the general election he’d be lucky, and could very well make McGovern look good.

I have far more faith in Mr. and Mrs. America to see through a stuffed shirt and propped up peon, than in the democrats ability to prevent them from realizing they have put up a stuffed shirt and propped up peon.


30 posted on 09/11/2008 6:09:08 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: steve-b

I have a sneaking suspicion that the jewish is oneo f the many reasons bambi is struggling to hit 50% in NY and NJ.


31 posted on 09/11/2008 6:09:33 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: jmaroneps37

it’s still close enough to steal..


32 posted on 09/11/2008 6:09:47 AM PDT by wny
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
If he gets wiped out by a landslide, he will NEVER run for President again. Hillary would be overjoyed to eliminate her most serious threat. For once, she, Bill and the GOP have the same interest in common.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

33 posted on 09/11/2008 6:10:22 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jmaroneps37
"Black vote: needs 95%. Zogby says he has “lost support” among Black voters. "

There may be less black voters turning out in November if it looks for certain like Obama will lose. However, he will still get 95% of their vote. Of that I have no doubt.
34 posted on 09/11/2008 6:10:36 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: jmaroneps37
Well, okay!
Don't forget to vote in the only poll that matters!!
35 posted on 09/11/2008 6:10:38 AM PDT by right way right (Do not mistake religion for God.)
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To: Dawn531
I second the motion.

We need to fight and fight hard - get the vote out with a vengeance.

More corpses will be voting in this election than ever before. More bums will be getting cartons of cigarettes and bottles of vodka on this election day than on any previous one. More convicted felons will be voting in this election than ever before.

Obama will get at least 2 million votes that could not be legally cast.

36 posted on 09/11/2008 6:11:07 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: jmaroneps37

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!?

/Blutarski

Complacency is the goal of any - ANY - lamestream media article putting Obambi “out of it” or saying “its’ over”. I have no clue who the author of this is, but I can tell you that the number one danger for all of us is to believe that Obama is through. We need to keep fighting the fight, every day, and in every way possible! (gosh, I sound like a cheerleader!?!)

We can’t take anything for granted. Dem fraud will be a whole new ball game this year, I’m certain.


37 posted on 09/11/2008 6:11:21 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: 353FMG

Yep, he will become another Democrat senator whose unaccomplished “public service” made him a multi, multi millionaire. And, he will be able to settle into being another made for TV career U.S. Senator....doing little, criticizing everything and everybody.


38 posted on 09/11/2008 6:11:21 AM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: jmaroneps37

Evangelicals: needs 71%. He is running against an Evangelical and has nothing to offer these Christian voters.
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Obama needs 71% of evangelicals. That cannot be correct.


39 posted on 09/11/2008 6:11:58 AM PDT by Rumierules
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To: right way right

Thats why we need to make sure there are so many gop election judges out in forces in states where there potential frauds and also where there are voted id laws, challenge those fraudsters.


40 posted on 09/11/2008 6:12:40 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: jmaroneps37

Coach’s grandma apparently never told him not to count his chickens until they’re hatched. I hope he is right. But this is far from over.


41 posted on 09/11/2008 6:13:18 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: IrishBrigade
...you may be correct, but victory is written with electoral votes, which pay little attention to percentages, being all or none, for each state...extremely dumb system, IMHO...

Yes, what were The Founders thinking???? C'mon!

42 posted on 09/11/2008 6:13:29 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: library user

Black does not mean stupid


43 posted on 09/11/2008 6:14:53 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Rumierules
That is correct. The only groups Obama is barely holding onto are blacks and Hispanics. How many of those will show up if he is going to get crushed? If you think the polls show the election as close, it doesn't explain Barry's bizzarely self destructive behavior. If he really thought he had a chance, he wouldn't be acting the way he does.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

44 posted on 09/11/2008 6:14:56 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jmaroneps37
I think that perhaps they might force Biden to step down. Probably due to “health” reasons. If that's the case, (I know it's long shot) does Hillary step in to “save” the party, or does Hillary sandbag for the next election.

The dims have finally figured out that the dynamic has changed, will they try a change of their own?

Just thinkin’...

45 posted on 09/11/2008 6:15:02 AM PDT by alarm rider (Peace! through superior fire power....)
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To: jmaroneps37

Well, I wonder how the polls will change when The ZERO dumps “Joey Lunch Pail” and puts Hillary on the ticket (or some other desperate move that the media would laud as a “master stroke”)?


46 posted on 09/11/2008 6:15:35 AM PDT by mattdono (Only Lot will be left.)
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To: jmaroneps37

I hate to count chickens before they are fully hatched because the left is a hateful thing that will not die no matter how many stakes are driven through its vapid heart. I said it from the beginning that McCain was going to a coronation not an election even without Sarah Palin the independents were going fall heavy for him. They almost always fall for the GOP because most aren’t liberals. Watching Obama fight it out with Hillary really sealed his doom, it highlighted his clear vulnerabilities and overwrought his image as an iconic figure.

The thing though isn’t that he was overwrought as much as when you looked under the cover you saw a man with a history that did not fit. The Great Oz was not so great nor so accomplished. The great Oz was essentially an empty suit with a big voice with art for delivering speeches. Obama has struck a wall like a jellyfish in a rocket but for those of us who looked at the reality saw the wall and saw Obama as the jellyfish.

Sometimes I think the political strategerists are just too close to the trees. They look at the most silly things and assume this is the perfect storm for liberals forgetting it helps to have a candidate running on issues that people really support. The left instead fools itself that America is just like them. They never stop to ask themselves whether the America that sees need for change means that it desires bigger more expansive more expensive government. They never stop to ask when they are exulting each other on how tolerant they are whether America wants to have their liberal social views shoved on and indoctrinated into their children. They never ask the hard questions of themselves because they can’t accept the answer.

The answer is that America still wants to win. America still wants traditional values of strong two parent man and woman families. That America doesn’t take pride in killing the unborn or the elderly. That America doesn’t see bigger government and higher taxes as a solution to the woes of the common man. That most Americans still want a job not a handout and as long as that is the case the left when they run empty suits built of pure liberalism as a frontal assault will find themselves left wanting on election day.

John McCain and Sarah Palin don’t need big words to be respected. They have proven themselves through the sheer substance of their lives.


47 posted on 09/11/2008 6:16:05 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: jmaroneps37
Black vote: needs 95%. Zogby says he has “lost support” among Black voters.

Wheres the source on that?

48 posted on 09/11/2008 6:16:25 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Thank God for imparting wisdom on the founders to implement the electoral college -

it isolates vote fraud.


49 posted on 09/11/2008 6:16:37 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

We will see a preview of this when Sarah is Vice President and therefore President of the Senate. Hillary will probably be majority leader but the Senate president sets the agenda.


50 posted on 09/11/2008 6:16:46 AM PDT by AMiller
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