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Lost on the Rude-Tube .....(Charlie Gibsonís poor navigation)
National Review ^ | September 12, 2008 | Ruth Wedgwood

Posted on 09/12/2008 7:55:47 AM PDT by IrishMike

ABC News anchor Charles Gibson may have thought he was giving a fair but “tough” interview to Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska, in the first press contact with the new vice-presidential candidate.

But ABC did itself no favors. Viewers watching the dagger-and-sheath interview — aired on national television last night and endlessly replayed on “YouTube” — could easily draw a different conclusion. Unconsciously or not, Gibson’s manner and language fairly dripped with condescension and disbelief.

It was the flourish of a trial attorney who chooses to substitute body language for substance, in persuading the jury that the witness is unworthy.

It was, to be plain, a distraction from what could have been an interesting conversation.

Most women, even now, are quite familiar with being talked over and not so subtly demeaned when they venture an opinion. It happens at dinner parties, in Washington and New York, where Gibson reigns as a network anchor, and even in educational classrooms.

It can happen to students who venture to Ivy League colleges without the benefit of a private preparatory school. They may never have heard about a “Nash equilibrium” or “Pareto optimality.” It doesn’t mean they are stupid or without cunning.

There was no evident need to demand of Palin three times in a row how she could consider herself to have the necessary qualifications for the vice presidency. The host’s closing line was a debater’s sally — “doesn’t that take some hubris?” Gibson asked, demanding again how a local mayor and Northern Exposure governor could properly consider national office.

Religious folk may also not chuckle, when the assertion that God has a plan for the world is recast as a claim that God is sending down Defense Department snowflakes for the conduct of the war in Iraq. Believing that the Iraqi people have a right to live in freedom, without Saddam Hussein, does not mean that Sarah Palin thinks she is Joan of Arc.

And then there is the issue of the “Bush doctrine.” Charlie Gibson seemed to delight in suggesting that Governor Palin did not know what the phrase meant. But there are “Bush doctrines” on any number of issues, not least, educational policy and free trade (which the Democrats have now abandoned).

Without saying so, Gibson had in mind the 2002 National Security Strategy statement, which noted that a country does not have to suffer a catastrophic attack before using the prerogatives of self-defense, and can act when a foreign attack is imminent.

But Gibson is wrong to suppose that the right of anticipatory self-defense began with George Bush. Indeed, it was put forward early in the history of the American republic, by Secretary of State Daniel Webster, in the so-called “Caroline affair” in 1837.

And strangely enough, this doctrine was carved out in the frozen North. In the middle of winter, American sympathizers crossed the Niagara River to help Canadians in their rebellion against the British Crown. The British burned their boat and sent one man to his death over the falls. Daniel Webster conceded that the British were permitted to use force because the "necessity of that self-defence” was “instant, overwhelming, and leaving no choice of means, and no moment for deliberation.”

It would have been delicious if Governor Palin had responded with the name Daniel Webster. But she had the idea, and one may excuse even a national television anchor for not knowing the doctrine’s real origin.

In one last flurry, Gibson complained that he was “lost in a blizzard of words here.” The trope was unconscious, no doubt.

The television host, who came to broadcasting from Princeton and its Tower Club, via Washington’s Sidwell Friends School, would have been well served to ask some local folk (or even some big city women) what they thought of his navigation skills.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008veep; abcnews; chucklestheclown; election; electionpresident; elections; gibson; gibsonpalin; hatinpalin; lipstick; mccainpalin; msm; nro; palin; sarahpalin
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1 posted on 09/12/2008 7:55:48 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

For the Obama interview Chuck asked if he could refresh his coffee and if he wanted a piloow.


2 posted on 09/12/2008 7:57:19 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

What is a piloow?


3 posted on 09/12/2008 8:00:01 AM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: IrishMike

It’s okay! Watching the MSM crying a river come November 4th and the following morning will all be worth it.

I love watching liberals cry.


4 posted on 09/12/2008 8:00:36 AM PDT by avacado
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To: IrishMike

Hey, the McCain compaign picked this boob over many others. Anyone else would have been better, anyone.

did anyone see Obama last night on the presidential forum? How did he do?


5 posted on 09/12/2008 8:00:49 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Mr. Smith is coming back to Washington in the name of Sarah Palin.)
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To: IrishMike

Cayce Anthony would have gotten a fairer shake...


6 posted on 09/12/2008 8:00:56 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: All

Gibson reminded me of some college dean interviewing an incoming freshman who he thought didn’t deserve to be interviewed in the first place. Despite Gibson’s arrogant tone and rude and demeaning manner, I think Palin came across as determined, likeable, and trustworthy.


7 posted on 09/12/2008 8:01:19 AM PDT by GOPinCa (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: IrishMike

I cannot believe what an a$$ Gibson is.
I thought Sarah did great, especially after sending her oldest son off to war.
I would be in tears for days if mine had gone off to war.

Hang tough Sarah, you have the base behind you.
We are going to SWIFT BASE Hussein.


8 posted on 09/12/2008 8:02:01 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (I have a friend and pal in SARAH!!!!!!!)
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To: IrishMike
In one last flurry, Gibson complained that he was “lost in a blizzard of words here.”

Lost in his own words, that is. Her words were clear and distinct.

9 posted on 09/12/2008 8:02:09 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: IrishMike

Early morning show on FOX had a lefty, liberal radio host stating that, (paraphrase) ‘Just because Palin’s a woman, she shouldn’t expect to be tossed softballs.’

The dems simply don’t understand the depth and width of their misogyny. No wonder the DNC killed Hillary’s chances with an untested, unprepared, inexperienced man.

They simply couldn’t allow her to win.


10 posted on 09/12/2008 8:04:06 AM PDT by OpusatFR (As we bicker about faith, the faithful are witnesses by their martyrdom.)
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To: IrishMike

Charlie Gibson, the Hammer and Sickle banner waving propaganda representative for Red.


11 posted on 09/12/2008 8:04:46 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: IrishMike

At least he didn’t ask her to take off her glasses and shake out her hair.


12 posted on 09/12/2008 8:05:27 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: IrishMike

There was a woman caller who telephoned into a conservative talk show this morning (WIBC/Indianapolis). She stated that Chris Wallace of Fox News (who watched the whole Palin/Gibson interview on Nightline) stated that it was very clear to him that ABC News edited the Palin/Gibson interview to manipulate the appearance of Sarah Palin as being arrogant and uninformed. For Chris Wallace to say this is quite a statement.


13 posted on 09/12/2008 8:05:51 AM PDT by auto power
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To: IrishMike

The doctrine of preemptive strikes has been around at least since Cato (The Younger I believe) and “Carthage must be destroyed!”

I think the McCain camp doesn’t want to be seen complaining about how unfair Gibson was, but that entire interview, including their intro and name for the segment (War. God and Oil) was an absolute left wing hatchet job.

Someone ask “Charlie” (appropriately the name of a mentally retarded savant in the movie of the same name) if mankind is causing the global cooling that has occurred the last several years.


14 posted on 09/12/2008 8:06:08 AM PDT by Williams
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To: nikos1121

I think that selecting Charlie to rake Palin was another good choice. Sarah did fine and Gibson exposed himself as a a$$. It could have an opposite effect of either pissing off women and moderates and drawing them to McCain & Palin.

Bravo Charlie! Lets see if he tones down for the encore interview.


15 posted on 09/12/2008 8:06:52 AM PDT by zek157
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To: OpusatFR

Oh, they do understand. Their blind hatred for captilism and America completely overshadows any ounce of sense in fair play or logic.

The propagandists play by their own rules, and relativism is one of the principle rules in their game.


16 posted on 09/12/2008 8:08:49 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

The liberal Democrats and Muslims fear the power of a conservative woman.

As D. Morris said:
...’Basically, it’s this: John McCain only endangers Democratic chances of victory this November, but Sarah Palin is an existential threat to the Democratic Party.

She threatens a core element of the party’s base - women’...


17 posted on 09/12/2008 8:09:49 AM PDT by IrishMike (Gov Sarah Palin - she's unleashed the fury of the castrated Left)
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To: zek157

Gibson is insipid!


18 posted on 09/12/2008 8:10:31 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: sweetiepiezer
I thought Sarah did great, especially after sending her oldest son off to war.

Which Gibson didn't even acknowledge when she mentioned it in the context of her answer. He just pressed on with his BS questions.

19 posted on 09/12/2008 8:10:35 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: IrishMike

I knew this interview was going to be bad.

Remember when Pelosi became Speaker of the House. This guy was fawning over her ability to “look after the children”, and the country.

I about puked.

Pelosi is the “right” kind of woman. Palin is the “wrong” kind for the MSM.

In their mind, her primary DISQUALIFICATION is that she didn’t abort her children.


20 posted on 09/12/2008 8:10:49 AM PDT by rom (Cold on McCain '08. Enthusiastic about McCain-Palin '08!)
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To: IrishMike
Gibson’s manner and language fairly dripped with condescension and disbelief

I have observed that type of body language in many liberals who think their IQs are higher than yours and that only they know best.

21 posted on 09/12/2008 8:10:56 AM PDT by no_go_lie
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To: auto power

Elections come and go, but Sarah Palin is a fundamental threat to the base of the Democratic Party.


22 posted on 09/12/2008 8:13:43 AM PDT by IrishMike (Gov Sarah Palin - she's unleashed the fury of the castrated Left)
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To: IrishMike
I was quite surprised and disappointed in Charlie Gibson's style and demeanor. It was clear Gibson conducted an adversarial interview.
23 posted on 09/12/2008 8:13:52 AM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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To: GOPinCa
Gibson reminded me of some college dean interviewing an incoming freshman who he thought didn’t deserve to be interviewed in the first place. Despite Gibson’s arrogant tone and rude and demeaning manner, I think Palin came across as determined, likeable, and trustworthy.


LOL! So true. You've distilled it perfectly. Gibson=smug. Palin=determined, likeable, and trustworthy.
24 posted on 09/12/2008 8:16:47 AM PDT by macamadamia (Life is a continuation of war by other means.)
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To: IrishMike
Good account of what went down.

On a separate note, as well as the writer wrote, why did they twice make the common blunder to use 'unconcious*' instead of subconcious*??
25 posted on 09/12/2008 8:17:21 AM PDT by time4good
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To: Williams

It was Cato the Elder, and he would end any speech in the Senate about any subject with “and furthermore, Carthage should be destroyed”. “Carthago delenda est”


26 posted on 09/12/2008 8:17:35 AM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: no_go_lie

She threatens a core element of the dRAT party’s base - women.
The Democrats and liberal media are hysterical.


27 posted on 09/12/2008 8:17:35 AM PDT by IrishMike (Gov Sarah Palin - she's unleashed the fury of the castrated Left)
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To: IrishMike

I guess I’m alone here, but I thought Gibson was fine.
Gov. Palin has to be able to handle these tests, to show she is strong. And so far, so good.

Look she can’t just go on Limbaugh’s show, he wouldn’t ask anything of substance. She also can’t have a press conference, she’d take too many shots.

But Gibson is fine, Brokaw better, and Lehrer better yet.


28 posted on 09/12/2008 8:18:31 AM PDT by Gunflint
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To: IrishMike

“...fear the power of a conservative woman.”

As they should. A conservative woman is sure of herself, can administer a blow between the pant legs in a skirt and heels, and look graceful doing it, tag a moose at 200 yards, field dress it, then get home in time to stir things up as a community leader (unlike a community organizer).


29 posted on 09/12/2008 8:18:43 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: IrishMike
This sure is a right on the money.

I'm hoping that McCain-Palin will not allow even the setting to be repeated - they were sitting way too close - Palin seemed small and what's his name large - which is the case, but compare that to the setting between O’Reilly and Hillary - even the setting was fair and balanced.

The obvious “I don't believe you” demeanor of Gibson was way over the top.

30 posted on 09/12/2008 8:21:43 AM PDT by unique
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To: Gunflint

“Gov. Palin has to be able to handle these tests, to show she is strong.”

Brother, have you ever seen those photos of her with the moose? We know she’s strong. Gov. Palin has five children, for goodness sakes.

No conservative objects to interviews with the “reporters” from the Red propaganda machine. It is the double standard we object to. A perfect example would be Oprah.


31 posted on 09/12/2008 8:23:09 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: nikos1121
Hey, the McCain compaign picked this boob over many others.

McCain's campaign probably only chose ABC News, who in turn tapped Gibson. It is easy to see why it was ABC. NBC is too lefty, CBS would use Couric, which would be a distraction, Fox would be considered too friendly, and CNN not worthy. So it was ABC.

32 posted on 09/12/2008 8:24:08 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: IrishMike

I would like to know what “Charlie” thinks are credentials that prepare someone for the office POTUS. Seriously can anyone say they are truly ready any more than she can? Maybe a vice-president, but know one in this election, IMO.


33 posted on 09/12/2008 8:24:44 AM PDT by millerph
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To: IrishMike

I personally take great delight in the thought that the “reigning anchor” of New York news was unable to smite Governor Palin with his grim, disapproving stare.

Remember, folks, that this was her first mano-a-mano with the MSM. She’s only going to get better...


34 posted on 09/12/2008 8:25:29 AM PDT by ReeseBN38416
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To: zek157

Will there be any casual interviewing? You know, walking with the candidate through Wasilla instead of grilling her?


35 posted on 09/12/2008 8:26:05 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Mr. Smith is coming back to Washington in the name of Sarah Palin.)
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Years ago my daughter was enrolled at Northwestern at the same time as Chuckles' daughter. It was during the time when he was still doing this morning clown dance. I received a letter from him requesting a donation to something or other.

I trashed the letter.

It was the least I could do.

36 posted on 09/12/2008 8:27:34 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: IrishMike
Gibson complained that he was “lost in a blizzard of words here.”

Get off the air ya big dope!

37 posted on 09/12/2008 8:28:33 AM PDT by Once-Ler (had I meant it this way, she would be the lipstick. - still disgraceful)
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To: IrishMike
I think its only hardened people's perceptions about the MSM towards small town folks, conservatives and people of faith. And Yes, towards women. People see that sneering condescension from the Left all the time and while Sarah is not a victim, she was on the receiving end of it from ABC's Charlie Gibson.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

38 posted on 09/12/2008 8:34:30 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: IrishMike
Have to be honest, I tried to watch the interview but turned it off when Charlie showed his true In The Tank for Obama colors.
39 posted on 09/12/2008 8:37:33 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (The Difference Between Palin and Obama is Common Sense, She's GOT IT, He DOESN'T)
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To: IrishMike

. . Hah! With the “Obama One”, most high, most exalted, Charlie was lost in a flurry of “uh’s” . . . “uh, uh, change, uh, uh, hope, uh, uh, uh, stinky, uh, uh, lipstick, uh, uh, fish . . . . uh, uh and for good measure, uh, Charlie . . and, oh yeah, I forgot, uh, I might add audacity . .”


40 posted on 09/12/2008 8:38:28 AM PDT by Twinkie (OBAMA & BIDEN - "Bridge to Nowheresville")
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To: Gunflint

You’re right on the line of questioning, she is running for Vice President, we need to know if she can stand up to tough questioning. Although Gibson was very smug, ironic from a guy that reads news from a teleprompter for a living. My only problem is, where is the tough interview of Obama, and how about Biden? IF he wants to be a respected reporter he has to act like one, he is just a mouth for the DNC, and he was doing his best to stop the Palin steamroller.


41 posted on 09/12/2008 8:42:43 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Gunflint

I’ve sometimes watched interviews by all three of them. When their guest is a liberal or Democrat, they seem to fawn over them, and if they ask any hard-ball questions they look so apologetic and almost comical. When the guest is conservative, they hold nothing back and usually end up with a mixture of sarcasm and pity for the obvious imbeciles in front of them.


42 posted on 09/12/2008 8:46:20 AM PDT by no_go_lie
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To: Deb
At least he didn’t ask her to take off her glasses and shake out her hair.

Momentary pause for mental image...

43 posted on 09/12/2008 8:48:25 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Eras will now be referred to as: BS: Before Sarah and AS: After Sarah)
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To: avacado
Watching the MSM crying a river come November 4th and the following morning will all be worth it.

Don't you mean "for the next 12 years"? ;-)

44 posted on 09/12/2008 8:48:25 AM PDT by twhitak
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To: IrishMike

What’s funny is no one has ever asked Obama if he is ready to lead and he is the TOP of his ticket?

Gibson lost me on the first question. His condescension rose and he looked down his nose at her. I wanted to throw a brick through the tv.


45 posted on 09/12/2008 8:53:06 AM PDT by sappy
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To: Twinkie

A must see............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYjZ5_9H2Vo&eurl


46 posted on 09/12/2008 8:55:16 AM PDT by IrishMike (Gov Sarah Palin - she's unleashed the fury of the castrated Left)
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To: Plutarch
It is easy to see why it was ABC

Brokow would have been better, since he would try to be scrupulously fair, given MSNBC's embarrasments. ..

47 posted on 09/12/2008 8:59:14 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: IrishMike
I saw Charlie Gibson as arrogant and condescending toward Governor Sarah Palin - but it was nuanced. If you just read the transcript, his questions sound pretty reasonable, although with a slight edge. Some were unnecessarily repeated, such as her stand on Israel launching a pre-emptive military strike on Iran. It was obvious that Gibson was attempting to get Palin to make a provocative statement that could be used against her. She didn't.

Governor Palin seemed tense, which would come as no surprise, but disciplined and confident, even as Charlie Gibson looked at her with obvious disapproval during the interview.

I thought the Palin-Gibson interview segment we've seen was about what we would expect. Mild-manned Charles Gibson looking grim and disapproving, asking questions that he assumed would make her look uninformed, unqualified or stupid while Sarah Palin came off a bit tense but composed, knowledgeable and convincing. A win for Palin and another case of the leftists doing a lot more harm to their side than they did to Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.

Go, Sarah!

48 posted on 09/12/2008 9:03:27 AM PDT by Jim Scott (Never, never, never give up! - Winston Churchill)
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To: nikos1121

I don’t know how they will do the next interview. Gibson will have trouble hiding his bias regardless of the setting.


49 posted on 09/12/2008 9:04:51 AM PDT by zek157
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To: AU72
Gibson showed his colors when he asked the Bush doctrine question. He assumed that everyone held his opinion of what the Bush doctrine was and that any politically astute person would know what that doctrine entailed. Or maybe he forgot that he was not talking to the usual crowd he hangs around with.
50 posted on 09/12/2008 9:10:42 AM PDT by my right
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