Skip to comments.An Honest Question
Posted on 09/12/2008 2:58:38 PM PDT by bahblahbah
What good are Palins libertarian-conservative bona fides if shes Joe Lieberman on foreign policy? Dont get me wrong: I am quite delighted to see a Republican running for high office who is a Bush Doctrine virgin.
But to my infinite frustration, a moderate degree of hawkishness such as my own I supported the Iraq war on international-legal grounds; I supported independence for Kosovo on grounds of honor for the US and expediency for Europe; I am a philosemitic friend to Israel, but think the challenges facing the US and Israel are not identical is inadequate to the folks who have captured the hawk wing of the Republican and Democratic parties alike. John McCain is their prince, but Joe Lieberman is their king; and I must repeat that I feel a complete dunce for not realizing that none other than Joe Lieberman would be training Palin in all catchphrases pertaining to
All of which would be not so important if I really cared more about the great things Radley Balko cares about and sees in Palin:
And I do, I do care very much about those things. Thats why I keep claiming that McCain and Palin still have time to come clean on Bush and make an equally clean break, and get conservative Republicanism where it needs to be. But even if they managed to do this, getting into a war with Russia over Ukraine or Georgia would be so awful in my estimation, at least that our welcome and vital gains at home would seem almost beside the point. Im not sure I can argue strenuously enough what a calamity it would be for us to fight a war with Russia, but I will try by saying simply that it would be a REAL world war, very much unlike the War on Terror. It would be submarine warfare, it would be Hugo Chavez transformed from a clown into a killer, it would be Syria giving up peace with Israel; it would be a nightmare in Alaska and a catastrophe for world markets and an embarrassment for NATO and possibly the death of the EU. It would be Iran uncontainable. Chinas peaceful rise would be thrown into crisis and confusion. Need I say more? And these strike me as among the least outlandish and grisly possibilities. I refer again to Daniel:
Again, I have no problem in principle with NATO membership for Georgia the Georgian people, unlike the Ukrainian people, are fully on board, and Georgia, whatever Saakashvilis many errors and problems, is a legitimate candidate country on paper. But in practice its a horrible idea, and Ukrainian membership is even worse. EU membership for both is a much better idea, and also not Americas problem to solve. I wouldnt be so unsettled by Palins treatment of both countries as prospective NATO members, at any rate, if she didnt so breezily repeat the simple falsehood that Russia started the war. I have no interest in accusing her of lying for the benefit of a small group of anti-Russian agitators; Im much more interested in the likelihood that a small group of anti-Russian agitators are telling her that the notion of Russian aggression is something like what Machiavelli called the effective truth, and that if she doesnt promote that notion theres something wrong with her. For Joe Lieberman to be a Democrat sympathetic with Republican foreign policy is one thing; for Joe to be Palins Henry Kissinger is something else entirely, and, given the stakes, my provisional disposition at present is that all the Balkoism in the world wouldnt make up for a co-Vice President Lieberman.
I couldn’t make it very far into that load of garbage.
It’s probably because you live in a bubble...
How ‘bout we get her elected first, then we can become all agitated and angsty over minutely figured out and nuanced details of questions and considerations that have little bearing on anything whatsoever unless McC is elected?
They would appreciate this crap over at du.
Because, that’s not how the world works...
>> Because, thats not how the world works...
How ought the world to work, in your esteemed opinion?
...elect Obama and suffer? Is that the way it ought to be?
Wow!, that must infinitely suck.
This poor guy just can’t stand those Jews, can he?
Like it or not, the Russians have been throwing their weight around for some time now & we have not responded. That is leading them to be ever more provocative. Sooner or later we’re going to have to push back. Sooner would be better than later.
Not at all. I have an aversion to convoluted crap filled with illogic and odd assumptions. There is enough of that available from the Treason Media.