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Saudi cleric says 'depraved' TV moguls may be killed
AFP ^ | 9/12/208 | N/A

Posted on 09/13/2008 6:45:48 AM PDT by a_Turk

DUBAI, Sept 12, 2008 (AFP) - A senior Saudi cleric has issued a religious decree saying the owners of television networks broacasting "depravation and debauchery" may be killed, Al-Arabiya television reported on Friday.

"The owners of these channels propagate depravation and debauchery," said Saleh al-Luhaidan, chief justice of the supreme judicial council, the highest judicial authority in the ultra-conservative Saudi kingdom.

He made the remarks on radio in response to a caller who asked him to give an opinion on what he said were "immoral" programmes on Arab television during the holy Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, a source at Al-Arabiya said.

"It is lawful to kill ... the apostles of depravation... if their evil cannot be easily removed through simple sanctions," Luhaidan said, according to excerpt of the remarks broadcast on the Saudi-owned Al-Arabiya.

The situation is "serious ... the degradation of morals is a form of perversion on earth," he added.

During Ramadan, when Muslims must fast from dawn to dusk, Arab satellite televisions broadcast lavish productions, including soap operas and mini-series, some with historical and religious themes, as well as game shows.

A popular soap that was broadcast by Al-Arabiya for several weeks preceeding Ramadan already stirred passions in Saudi Arabia, where the grand mufti branded it "subversive" and "anti-Islamic."

Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh, head of Saudi Arabia's highest religious authority, earlier this year issued a fatwa against "Noor" and decreed that any channel broadcasting the series is "an enemy of God and his Prophet."

The Turkish-made soap opera dubbed into Arabic tells the story of Mohannad and his equally stunning wife Noor as they wrestle to reconcile the conflicting pressures of traditional and modern worlds.

Al-Arabiya is a news channel based in Dubai and part of the Saudi group MBC.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: censorship; tedturner
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1 posted on 09/13/2008 6:45:48 AM PDT by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
Wow... Saudi cleric issues fatwa declaring jihad on the MSM!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 09/13/2008 6:48:39 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: a_Turk

You just gotta love that whacky religion of peace huh!


3 posted on 09/13/2008 6:49:12 AM PDT by Devilinbaggypants (Audaces fortuna iuvat.)
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To: a_Turk

I must admit I feel some small degree of sympathy with this position when I see the filth that passes for entertainment.


4 posted on 09/13/2008 6:49:34 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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To: a_Turk

Liberal media included?

Not that I want to make a suggestion or anything.

That wouldn’t be right.

Would it?


5 posted on 09/13/2008 6:50:13 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialists are not inspired by success and achievement - they are diminished in its presence.)
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To: a_Turk

Start with CNN, work their way around.


6 posted on 09/13/2008 6:50:14 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: a_Turk

Hollywood and New York better step up media mogul security.


7 posted on 09/13/2008 6:50:25 AM PDT by polymuser (Taxpayers voting for Obama are like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.)
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To: Sherman Logan
I must admit I feel some small degree of sympathy with this position when I see the filth that passes for entertainment.

The fact that people of other countries judge us based on our TV and movies has made me sick for a long time. They can't possibly think highly of us from it.

8 posted on 09/13/2008 6:52:16 AM PDT by polymuser (Taxpayers voting for Obama are like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.)
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To: a_Turk
Is there anybody these people don't want to want to kill? Sheesh.
9 posted on 09/13/2008 6:52:19 AM PDT by workerbee (Sarah Palin's very existence is a threat to the Left.)
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To: a_Turk

I think it would be easier to make a list of who you aren’t supposed to kill if you are a muslim.


10 posted on 09/13/2008 6:52:27 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: a_Turk
Wow. Can we do that with Olberman and Matthews?
11 posted on 09/13/2008 6:53:21 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: a_Turk

What we need is the ability to respond with a hit contract against any cleric that issues one of these.


12 posted on 09/13/2008 6:53:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: a_Turk

AND . . . A True American has issued a religious decree saying that a certain senior Saudi cleric may be killed. (There fixed it)


13 posted on 09/13/2008 6:55:09 AM PDT by 70th Division (If we lose the Republic we have lost it all.)
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To: Devilinbaggypants

LOL


14 posted on 09/13/2008 6:56:13 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: a_Turk
serious degradation of morals is a form of perversion on earth

Are beheadings and killing your daughters part of that serious degradation?

15 posted on 09/13/2008 6:58:40 AM PDT by badpacifist (Personal attacks on someones opinion of a "news article" you happened to post is asinine..)
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To: Enduring Freedom

No, it wouldn’t be right. I don’t think it would, would it? LOL


16 posted on 09/13/2008 6:58:42 AM PDT by nobama08
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To: a_Turk
I wonder how Ted Turner likes this news?

Cheers!

17 posted on 09/13/2008 7:00:35 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: a_Turk

Ted Turner, Leslie Moonves (CBS), Jeff Zucker (NBC), Stephen McPherson (ABC), Judy McGrath (MTV), Jonathan Klein (CNN), Dan Abrams (MSNBC).


18 posted on 09/13/2008 7:00:57 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: a_Turk
The owners of these channels propagate depravation

Depravation?

Depravity + degradation?

19 posted on 09/13/2008 7:01:07 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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To: polymuser

I agree 100%.

If all I knew of America was its TV and movies, I’d despise us myself.


20 posted on 09/13/2008 7:03:09 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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To: Sherman Logan

“I must admit I feel some small degree of sympathy with this position when I see the filth that passes for entertainment.”

Hear, hear. I think back of how what passes as entertainment today compared to the good messages broadcast in the 50s and 60s, and it is no wonder that so many foreign nations have such a negative view of the degenerates running hollywood—fortunately, here is one that realizes every person in America does not subscribe to the filth that emanates from the peddlers of perversion.


21 posted on 09/13/2008 7:05:04 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: a_Turk

Don’t you just hate it when you have to say “AMEN” in response to an Islamic extremist’s fatwa????


22 posted on 09/13/2008 7:13:06 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Bushwacker777

Yes, every once in awhile they say something I agree with. This is one of those times. ;-)

(Just kidding. I don’t think TV moguls who broadcast filth ought to be actually executed. Just sent to a labor and reeducation camp run by the Chinese or North Vietnamese. Or by Joe Arpaio, my personal hero.)


23 posted on 09/13/2008 7:17:13 AM PDT by ottbmare
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To: Neoliberalnot

>> , and it is no wonder that so many foreign nations have such a negative view

Maybe some, just some have their negative view because they have to fight this ultra conservative fanaticism tooth and nail every day to bring change from within, yet you sponsor and allign yourselves with the filthy monarchies (saudi, etc) and dictatorships (egypt, etc) that are built upon and foster the same.

First understand and then never forget.


24 posted on 09/13/2008 7:19:41 AM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice)
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To: Enduring Freedom
Liberal media included?

My first thought, upon reading the headline, was that Ted Turner was in trouble.

25 posted on 09/13/2008 7:32:09 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: a_Turk

Ahhhhh ... the Religion of Pieces


26 posted on 09/13/2008 7:50:13 AM PDT by webschooner (McWhatshisname/Palin 2008 !!)
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To: RobinOfKingston

No more than the rest of us. The cleric is responding to what looks like a fairly mild show broadcast within the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. It is about a struggle between modernism and muslim religious tradition. To me it seems to suggest a challenge to this clerics totalitarian worldview. What goes on out here would be lumped together with the entire infidel world and he would like us all dead or converted.


27 posted on 09/13/2008 7:52:00 AM PDT by xp38
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To: a_Turk; Carry_Okie
>>yet you sponsor and allign yourselves with the filthy monarchies (saudi, etc)
 
Oh that's that's a bunch of soot, Mr. Pot.
 
I'll take, "Donmeh and the Sabbatean history of Secular Turkey" for $1000, Jack.
 
 
 

28 posted on 09/13/2008 9:22:17 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Yah I can see their point fer sure.

Still their bad far out weighs the occasional valid point they make from time to time.


29 posted on 09/13/2008 9:27:39 AM PDT by festus (Politics makes for strange bedfellows)
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To: a_Turk

I’ve re-inserted the deleted parts.

“The owners of these channels propagate depravation and debauchery,” said Saleh al-Luhaidan, chief justice of the supreme judicial council, the highest judicial authority in the ultra-conservative Saudi kingdom. “However, do not harm The Fonz or any cast member of ER.”


30 posted on 09/13/2008 9:31:59 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: a_Turk

When they are done, they can come to the US and do the same. Hope they have a huge stockpile of ammo, they’re going to need it.


31 posted on 09/13/2008 10:52:38 AM PDT by yazoo
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To: a_Turk

It’s ironic that liberals love Muslims so much - when Muslims are the ultimate conservatives. I guess “ultimate victim” trumps “ultimate conservative”(?)


32 posted on 09/13/2008 10:53:52 AM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: a_Turk

I decree that Senior Saudi Clerics can be killed.


33 posted on 09/13/2008 10:57:14 AM PDT by blam
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To: Sherman Logan

Oh, come on. These Saudi freaks have no moral standing to be making any judgements. Their idea of “morality” includes:

- Hijacking planes and flying them into buildings, killing thousands of innocent human beings (15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi)
- Letting girls burn to death in a school because they’re not allowed to run outside with their ankles showing
- “Honor” killing their daughters if they dare to marry a non-Muslim or get out of an arranged marriage
- Beheading “dangerous infidels”
- Cutting off the hands of those who commit minor offenses
- The 9/11 hijackers whining about our “decadence”, then going to strip clubs
- Religious police beating anyone who doesn’t conform to Sharia law

Really moral, all right. But I’m a Western girl and I show my belly button. That’s much worse. (massive sarcasm)


34 posted on 09/13/2008 4:44:11 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: a_Turk

Far from aligned, but one sometimes realizes there is an enemy within. No people are all bad as you judge them to be.


35 posted on 09/15/2008 5:04:35 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: JillValentine

IMHO, those who promote utter depravity and cultural despair and suicide are deserving of the death penalty in a moral sense.

I am fully aware that our present laws do not allow such, and I would oppose any change in those laws, as I believe the peddling of filth and depravity is one of the prices we pay for a free society. It is an acceptable price. (Gagging)

But that does not change my personal private opinion that those who intentionally produce and inject such poison into our culture are traitors deserving of death. I believe they will eventually pay the price for their acts if they do not repent, but I’m perfectly content to allow God to handle it in the next world.


36 posted on 09/18/2008 10:41:02 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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To: a_Turk

The aforementioned media moguls won’t care. They’re far too busy hating and fearing Christians.


37 posted on 09/18/2008 10:46:48 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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