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First US-Mex fence: fewer migrants, more violence
The Washington Post ^ | September 13, 2008 | Traci Carl

Posted on 09/13/2008 1:06:16 PM PDT by 3AngelaD

TIJUANA, Mexico -- There is a moment each evening, as the sun melts into the Pacific, when Colonia Libertad is at peace....but it is only a moment. The floodlights click on, bathing the neighborhood in a blinding light. The helicopters return, clattering past. And the smugglers arrive with their ladders and blow torches and groups of people desperate to escape a fate similar to the one residents of Colonia Libertad long ago accepted.


(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderfence; bordersecurity; drugtrafficking; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; mediabias; mexico; wod
Well, I guess we better just give up on the fence, then, if the Associated Press says so. And they just named this biased bonehead liberal squish bureau chief for Latin America.
1 posted on 09/13/2008 1:06:16 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

Can’t the AP just cross the border and fix Mexico so we don’t need a fence?


2 posted on 09/13/2008 1:09:24 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Palin for President! (PUMA))
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To: 3AngelaD

LOL! You know that the fence must be working when the AP attacks it!


3 posted on 09/13/2008 1:09:35 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: 3AngelaD
the developing nation that lives in its shadow.

Mischaracterization. Mexico is a 3rd world nation that is stagnate or digressing.

4 posted on 09/13/2008 1:09:54 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 3AngelaD; pissant; AuntB
>>>As the U.S. government battles environmentalists and residents to build hundreds more miles of fencing along the 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border<<<<

As the U.S. government DUNCAN HUNTER battles environmentalists and residents to build hundreds more miles of fencing along the 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border

much better!

5 posted on 09/13/2008 1:10:09 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: 3AngelaD
Id like to see Juan take a blow torch to this.


6 posted on 09/13/2008 1:10:40 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (That sharp pain to the LibRat's groin is called the Palin Effect.)
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To: 3AngelaD

MORE violence? Pre-fence, the Tijuana-San Diego smuggling route was the scene of nightly killings, robbery, and rapes. Armed gangs roamed the hills and gullies and carried out all manner of depredations at will. To cross was to take your life into your hands. This article makes it sound like it was some sort of Arcadia.


7 posted on 09/13/2008 1:13:43 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: 3AngelaD

“shattering a shared American and Mexican history that is blind to things such as fences and borders....”

What shared history? That Mexico has always been a pain in our backyard?


8 posted on 09/13/2008 1:14:39 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Paladin2; Calpernia; Southack

Also, a federal judge threw out a lawsuit against the fence last week. See the story and be sure to read the truly hilarious comments at the link. Apparently everyone in El Paso is not an open borders nutcake like the mayor: http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_10451761


9 posted on 09/13/2008 1:18:07 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Calpernia

While Tancredo has been great about getting the word out about the border, Hunter has done the bulk of the heavy lifting down there.


10 posted on 09/13/2008 1:20:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: Red Steel
Mexico is developing nation that lives in the shadow of the US.

Mischaracterization. Mexico is a 3rd world nation that is stagnate or digressing.

MORE LIKE Mexico is leeching onto the US and our assets (if we have any left).

Hispanic Political Operator---Juan Hernandez----is a dual US/Mexico citizen--who headed the Mexican government's "Ministry of Mexicans Living in the US."

Hernandez told Cong Tancredo that "The Ministry" exists is to increase the flow of Mexicans to the US TO SERVE Mexico’s needs including: $10 billion annual remittances to Mexico (30% of Mexico's GDP); employment for Mexico's exploding population, to alleviate Mexican social instability, and to provide job training for Mexicans THAT THEY WILL BRING BACK TO MEXICO.

Hernandez told Cong Tancredo: ‘’By Mexico populating the US with millions of Hispanics tied economically, politically and linguistically to Mexico, our government is able to exert enormous influence and pressure on US policy and its dealings with Mexico.’’

Get ready for a massive transfer of US wealth to greedy federales in the Mexican hellhole.

The sap-happy whining about "hopeless people" looking for a "better life" here is nonsense. Hernandez and other Third World gov't agents have infiltrated the US political system for ONE REASON: to effect a massive transfer of US wealth.

Third World federales are salivating at the thought.

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History shows the Huns, the Vandals, and the Barbarians used force to taleover a country to loot its resources. Third World parasites like Hernandez use the US political system to divide and conqueur. They seek to conquer without firing a shot.

We can look forward to lettuce pickers stripping down to camouflage and shoulder holsters, roaming our streets, shooting to kill anyone who dares to speakout.

The invaders violated our borders for a "better life" (sarc) and while flipping hamburgers, they cleaned out the US Treasury, looted SS, UI, Disability, EITC, Workmen's Comp, welfare; they shut down numerous hospitals, sued everything in sight, and made big bucks selling drugs to American youth.

Now they'll retire in luxury at beachfront condos with multiple US govt checks rolling in.

More reasons to declare these agents of corrupt Third World governments invading our country "enemies of state."

11 posted on 09/13/2008 1:21:02 PM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: 3AngelaD
a shared American and Mexican history that is blind to things such as fences and borders

The war with Mexico was about borders....silly how they forget those things.

12 posted on 09/13/2008 1:21:02 PM PDT by teacherwoes (A fugitive from a Democratically-controlled Congress)
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To: 3AngelaD

Seems to me that Israel’s fence is working just fine.


13 posted on 09/13/2008 1:56:11 PM PDT by doc
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To: doc

It’s interesting. At least in some places, Israel’s is a double fence, with one road width in between. The road is plowed every day; the ground can then be inspected to see if anyone has crossed. I am sure there is much more to it, as well.


14 posted on 09/13/2008 2:04:51 PM PDT by stcromwell99
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To: teacherwoes

No, the war with Mexico was about the violations of the civil rights of US migrants moving to Texas and the SW. We, the US, were invaders into sovereign territory of Mexico. We were seen as illegal immigrants who rose up to claim independence from a dictator.

General SantaAnna was given the directive to re-take their sovereign territory but was defeated by Sam Huston.


15 posted on 09/13/2008 2:05:16 PM PDT by DownInFlames (C)
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To: 3AngelaD

What fence, the Jorge fence joke goes on!


16 posted on 09/13/2008 2:24:46 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: 3AngelaD

“Other drug runners have taken to the mountains, using blowtorches to cut large doors in the fence and then taking four-wheel-drive vehicles across the rugged terrain.”

Anyone cutting a hole in the fence with a blowtorch should be shot. Some day we stop playing silly games with these invaders. They should know that some behaviors will not be tolerated, and we’d see a drastic decrease in those behaviors.


17 posted on 09/13/2008 2:27:04 PM PDT by Will88 (.)
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To: 3AngelaD

I can understand why a fence could cause problems. My next door neighbor just put up one and it’s cut me off completely from his lawnmower.
How inconsiderate! Once he even complained about buying gas for his own mower. Guess that tells you what kind of guy he is. And, if you can imagine, he wanted me to bring his gas can back with my gas in it. What an ingrate!
Actually I think he’s prejudiced against people that drink beer because every time I open the old fridge in his garage for a cold one he suddenly has somewhere to go in a hurry.
So I know how a fence can ruin a friendship. If this keeps he’s not getting his garden hose back.


18 posted on 09/13/2008 2:58:41 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Calpernia

You made it into a true statement. It was false beforehand.


19 posted on 09/13/2008 3:25:18 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: org.whodat

They have now built nearly 400 miles of fence. Considering they only built 70 miles last year, I would say the pace has picked up! Oddly enough, the Mexican newspapers and wire services publish pictures of it all the time, but ours don’t.


20 posted on 09/13/2008 4:25:35 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

I’m sure McCain will be proud of the fence when it becomes convenient but it’s going to take serious sanctions of employers who hire illegals to staunch the flow in a real and meaningfull way.


21 posted on 09/13/2008 4:32:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: 3AngelaD

There is not a single person at the AP that has any clue as to what a blow torch is.


22 posted on 09/13/2008 4:36:30 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: 3AngelaD

Ha, ha, ha, they call three railroad rails set in a triangle a fence. LOLROF,


23 posted on 09/13/2008 4:59:40 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: org.whodat

When were you released? And are you still taking that medication?


24 posted on 09/13/2008 7:22:56 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD
LOL, do you have any new picture from your rose colored camera????
25 posted on 09/13/2008 7:27:35 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: org.whodat

Actually, I just got back from San Diego where I watched them putting the finishing touches on the triple-layer. In one spot they are moving 2 million cubic yards of dirt to fill in a little place called Smuggler’s Gulch. South of El Paso, the fence is a handsome 18-feet high. You need to get out more. Are you able to travel by yourself now? If I could figure out how to copy and paste pictures on a Mac I would post some for you.


26 posted on 09/13/2008 7:43:08 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

LOL, you just need to read more,


27 posted on 09/13/2008 8:38:38 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: 3AngelaD
http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=24&num=19915 I was also briefed by the border chief in the Tucson sector, where roughly half of all illegal immigrants funnel into the United States. Unfortunately, the Tucson sector has a ways to go before matching the effectiveness being demonstrated today in the Yuma sector. For example, the Tucson sector lags behind in the construction of double-layer fencing, which has been demonstrated to be extremely effective in deterring illegal crossings. And because there are still many areas where primary fencing hasn’t been erected either. At this time, Tucson has approximately 49 miles of pedestrian fencing constructed, and roughly 99 miles of vehicle barriers. The goal is to have approximately 73 miles of pedestrian fence and 153 miles of vehicle barriers constructed by the end of this year. vehicles barriers, that is that little railroad thing that doesn't mean anything, anyone can walk through, to call it a fence is a republican joke.
28 posted on 09/13/2008 8:51:40 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: org.whodat

I live 15 miles north from the largest and busiest border crossing in the world.
San Diego - Tijuana

The fence is over 15 feet high and triple


29 posted on 09/13/2008 8:54:40 PM PDT by SoCalPol (McCain / Palin 08 The Only Choice)
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To: org.whodat
National Guardsmen work on the second layer of the triple fence project. Old fence, new being built
30 posted on 09/13/2008 8:54:50 PM PDT by SoCalPol (McCain / Palin 08 The Only Choice)
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To: SoCalPol
Has nothing to do with current fence bill, SD was under old legislation.
31 posted on 09/13/2008 9:28:06 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: SoCalPol

see other post:http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/87353.pdf


32 posted on 09/13/2008 9:31:14 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: SoCalPol

see other post:http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/87353.pdf


33 posted on 09/13/2008 9:31:24 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: org.whodat
Should have added, however, this administration keeps adding this part of the fence to their over all construction. But if you read the summary, you will find it was authorized in 1996
34 posted on 09/13/2008 9:33:14 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: 3AngelaD
For a moment, residents are reminded of what it was like before the wall, when children ducked under a barbed wire fence to play soccer in U.S. territory and returned home for dinner. When smuggling meant giving directions to migrants who simply outran border agents and melted into the crowds of tourists.

Ahhhh, the good old days, when violating international sovereignty was just fun and games, and outrunning border agents was like a mini Olympic, fun for both sides.

35 posted on 09/13/2008 9:43:35 PM PDT by CaptRon (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: SoCalPol
Q: How long has the San Diego/Tijuana border fence been in the works?

The fence has been under construction since 1993. Lawsuits and environmental regulations have stalled completion of the final 3.5 miles, which go through a tidal estuary next to the Pacific Ocean. Last fall, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff used his authority to waive some legal requirements that were bogging down the process.

The government says that about $39 million has been spent on the project so far, though some critics think that's a conservative figure. The Department of Homeland Security expects to spend an additional $35 million to finish the last leg of the fence. The Border Patrol, though, says the cost could be higher.

Q: What kind of security measures does it employ?

The 14-mile project is actually a double- and triple-fence. The first fence was built with surplus military airplane landing mats that were welded together. The second fence is called Sandia fencing, because it was developed at the government's Sandia National Laboratories. It's steel mesh, 15 feet high, with the top part slanted inward. In high-traffic areas, there's a third chain-link fence topped with barbed wire. In between the first two fences is a 150-foot "no man's land." The Border Patrol uses that area to station vehicles. There are also light towers, and remote video-surveillance cameras are being installed even as I write. Security is augmented by helicopters and hundreds of ground-based Border Patrol agents.

Some areas use closely spaced concrete pillars instead of steel mesh for the second fence. And the last 150 yards or so -- leading into the sea -- is made of steel pillars sunk into the sand.

36 posted on 09/13/2008 9:44:15 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: org.whodat

Duncan Hunter is one of the 5 congressmen for San Diego.
It is his legislation that created building new fence and extending it.

I live here and this is part of our local news besides it being national news.

Get a clue and don’t embarrass yourself with posts that don’t have complete facts.

HUNTER INTRODUCES LEGISLATION TO REINSTATE SECURE FENCE ACT

January 23, 2008

Washington, D.C. – U.S. Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA), author of the fencing provisions included in the Secure Fence Act, introduced legislation in the House of Representatives today that requires the construction of double-layered fencing along America’s Southern land border within 6 months. The legislation reinstates the provisions of the Secure Fence Act that were amended under the recently enacted FY2008 omnibus spending bill.

“Securing our Southern land border remains one of our nation’s greatest priorities,” said Congressman Hunter. “When the Secure Fence Act was enacted more than one year ago, the American people were pleased to see that the necessary steps were finally being taken to secure the dangerous and problematic smuggling corridors that exist along our border with Mexico. Instead of adhering to the law and building the prescribed fencing, the Department of Homeland Security began to immediately retreat from the mandates of the bill, indicating its intention to only build 370 miles of fence and not the required 700 miles.

“More recently, provisions were included in the omnibus spending bill that eliminated the most substantive provisions of the Secure Fence Act, including the requirement that fencing be double-layered and extend 700 miles across the Southern land border. The omnibus spending bill dismantles the only legislative advancement made in recent years towards securing our border with Mexico, and represents a prescription for failure that directly threatens the safety, security and prosperity of the American people.

“Today, DHS has built approximately 75 miles of new fence along the border, of which only 5 miles is double-layered. The Secure Fence Act was clear in that it required double-layered fencing, separated by a road for Border Patrol vehicles, extending over 700 miles of land border. Yet DHS continues to believe that single-layered fencing, vehicle barriers and virtual fencing are adequate and reliable enforcement mechanisms. The reality is that single-layered fencing and vehicle barriers do little, if anything, to stop illegal immigration and the virtual alternative being aggressively pursued by DHS remains ineffective and unusable.

“The legislation I am introducing today reinstates the most important elements of the Secure Fence, which were wrongly amended under the omnibus spending bill. If we truly hope to bring some sense of security to our Southern land border, then we must begin building the appropriate infrastructure in the timeliest manner possible. I look forward to working with my colleagues over the coming months to correct this legislative error.”

More specifically, the legislation would:

Mandate the construction of at least 700 miles of new double-layered border fencing in locations determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security, within 6 months of the bill’s enactment;

Eliminate problematic “consultation” language included in the omnibus appropriations bill that potentially opened fence construction to endless challenges.
Since being introduced, the legislation has been referred to the House Homeland Security Committee for further consideration.

February 11, 2008

...Although the authority of the secretary of Homeland Security to build a fence along the border has not been rescinded, it has been made clear that most of the new fence will be single-layered and extend no more than 370 miles. During the past year, for instance, only 77 miles of fencing has been built, of which five miles is double-layered.

This lack of progress is disconcerting, particularly when considering that the Department of Homeland Security has received more than $2 billion for border infrastructure.

It is for these reasons that I introduced the Reinstate the Secure Fence Act in the House of Representatives. My legislation restores the most substantive elements of the Secure Fence Act, requiring 700 miles of fencing be constructed within six months of the bill’s enactment. If we truly hope to bring some sense of security to our southern border, then we must begin building the appropriate infrastructure in the timeliest manner possible.

April 1, 2008

HUNTER COMMENDS DECISION TO BUILD BORDER FENCE

Washington, D.C. – U.S. Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA), author of the waiver authority provision in the REAL ID Act of 2005 and border fence mandate enacted under the Secure Fence Act, commended the Department of Homeland Security’s decision to waive all laws impeding fence construction on the U.S. – Mexico border.

DHS intends to exercise its authority to bypass more than 30 laws and regulations preventing the completion of 267 miles of security fencing along America’s Southern land border.

“I commend the Department of Homeland Security for taking this important and necessary step,” said Congressman Hunter. “This action will ensure the continuation of fence construction along our border with Mexico, which is in our national interest.

“The infamous ‘Smugglers Gulch’ location in San Diego, California, is a good example of just how bureaucratic and environmental regulations can impede border fence construction. Smugglers Gulch, which lent itself to the movement of large quantities of cocaine and marijuana, was kept open by extreme environmental groups for more than six years.

“Today’s action addresses the myriad of obstacles that have delayed the construction of fencing across Smugglers Gulch and other dangerous regions along the border. Since Secretary Chertoff applied his waiver authority to Smugglers Gulch, the contract to complete this three mile stretch of border has been awarded and fence construction is expected to commence in May of this year.

“The experience of six years of delay has been instructive and the Smugglers Gulch experience is one that the Department of Homeland Security does not want to relive. The decision to remove these roadblocks is the absolute right decision.

“The next step is to ensure that the construction of fencing in these new locations involves double-layered fencing, which has proven to be effective at trapping smugglers attempting to cross into the United States.”


37 posted on 09/13/2008 10:03:27 PM PDT by SoCalPol (McCain / Palin 08 The Only Choice)
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To: SoCalPol
“Today, DHS has built approximately 75 miles of new fence along the border, of which only 5 miles is double-layered. The Secure Fence Act was clear in that it required double-layered fencing, separated by a road for Border Patrol vehicles, extending over 700 miles of land border. Yet DHS continues to believe that single-layered fencing, vehicle barriers and virtual fencing are adequate and reliable enforcement mechanisms. The reality is that single-layered fencing and vehicle barriers do little, if anything, to stop illegal immigration and the virtual alternative being aggressively pursued by DHS remains ineffective and unusable.

AS I said they have no results for the money spent to date.

38 posted on 09/14/2008 6:26:45 AM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: org.whodat

Oh, dear. I have done my reading. All you have done is look at pictures. Those “railroad ties” of yours are made of steel and are anchored by a concrete base that goes down into the ground 10 or 12 feet. It is called a Normandy barrier because it was designed to turn back tanks.It is built in places where the Border Patrol’s primary concern is vehicles bringing drugs, not foot traffic. I notice the guy who talked to the border chief doesn’t give the border chief’s name. Hmmmm. Could it be he made it all up? Could it be that no matter what anyone does, it isn’t good enough, because you are so much smarter than the rest of us? I don’t know about the mileage. But at least someone is doing something, someone is trying to accomplish something, while other people just sit back and bitch.


39 posted on 09/14/2008 6:27:08 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: org.whodat

Oh, dear. I have done my reading. All you have done is look at pictures. Those “railroad ties” of yours are made of steel and are anchored by a concrete base that goes down into the ground 10 or 12 feet. It is called a Normandy barrier because it was designed to turn back tanks.It is built in places where the Border Patrol’s primary concern is vehicles bringing drugs, not foot traffic. I notice the guy who talked to the border chief doesn’t give the border chief’s name. Hmmmm. Could it be he made it all up? Could it be that no matter what anyone does, it isn’t good enough, because you are so much smarter than the rest of us? I don’t know about the mileage. But at least someone is doing something, someone is trying to accomplish something, while other people just sit back and bitch.


40 posted on 09/14/2008 6:28:28 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: org.whodat

Oh, dear. I have done my reading. All you have done is look at pictures. Those “railroad ties” of yours are made of steel and are anchored by a concrete base that goes down into the ground 10 or 12 feet. It is called a Normandy barrier because it was designed to turn back tanks.It is built in places where the Border Patrol’s primary concern is vehicles bringing drugs, not foot traffic. I notice the guy who talked to the border chief doesn’t give the border chief’s name. Hmmmm. Could it be he made it all up? Could it be that no matter what anyone does, it isn’t good enough, because you are so much smarter than the rest of us? I don’t know about the mileage. But at least someone is doing something, someone is trying to accomplish something, while other people just sit back and bitch.


41 posted on 09/14/2008 6:29:53 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD
From post thirty seven: not my post and the information is from Duncan hunters office. So believe what you wish.

February 11, 2008

...Although the authority of the secretary of Homeland Security to build a fence along the border has not been rescinded, it has been made clear that most of the new fence will be single-layered and extend no more than 370 miles. During the past year, for instance, only 77 miles of fencing has been built, of which five miles is double-layered.

42 posted on 09/14/2008 7:59:08 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: 3AngelaD
I haven't had to wade through a swamp of bile like this in a coon's age (that's about twelve to fourteen years depending on the raccoon's environment, health, genetics...)

This article had some news hidden in it:

(Smugglers) have built more than two dozen tunnels under the border since 1994.

Drug runners have taken to the mountains, using blowtorches to cut large doors in the fence and then taking four-wheel-drive vehicles across the rugged terrain.

And this charming nugget:

Most of her neighbors are upper-class Mexicans driven north by a wave of kidnappings and drug violence south of the border.

LOL Sort of makes me wonder if she's happy those grubby, rights-claiming American rabble have gone elsewhere and how that Living Under A Thug thing is turning out. If a people, as a purposely self-segrated entity, continue to stand up for their corrupt and screwed up country like Mexican people here (in all their various guises and a few actually legitimate) could show some appreciation for us by voting for McCain, having garnered the credentials. Legitimately.)

I believe that most Americans of Latino/Hispanic/Whatever descent will always vote for their self-preservation over the interests of whatever nation they hailed from...many of whom would kiss the ground if you dared to ask them to. Great Americans come in all colors as do it's detractors and those taking advantage of our good will.

It's not hard for the spoiled and corrupted to accept. Just ask Al G. how it went down when the Clintons had a Citizenship Sale in an Arizonan stadium. They had to turn back applicants when the workers became exhausted. Some sources cite they eased close to five-hundred thousand into citizenship in that one pop. Fortunately for Bill Monica was still entertaining First Lady fantasies while helping keep him calm during a few missile firings at countries he was being told were threatening us. Yet he still shows up in public.

I realize that more than one reporter contributed to this article. To the one who one who imparted real news despite being knuckled under by a weasel; thank you.

3AngelaD: Keep asking good questions. Some people ARE trying to accomplish something good while others work against them wherever they can (*cough*state department*cough). I say let the truth speak for itself.

43 posted on 09/15/2008 9:42:14 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Reelect Theodore Roosevelt and he will magically reappear to accept office.)
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