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Website: Croatia Has Sold S300 To Iran
The Jerusalem Post ^ | September 10, 2008 | By Yaakov Katz

Posted on 09/14/2008 3:29:12 AM PDT by Strategy

Croatia has recently sold advanced S-300 air defense missile systems to Iran, a newspaper in Zagreb reported this week amid conflicting opinions in Israel over whether Teheran has obtained the advanced anti-aircraft system.

According to the Web magazine Necenzurirano, Libyan Naval ships were also docking in the Croatian port city of Kraljevica to transfer the system to Iran.

Israeli defense officials could not confirm the report but said that Croatia is known to have obtained a number of S-300 systems following the collapse of the Soviet Union. The system was reportedly dismantled several years ago although its exact fate was never publicized.

The S-300, a Russian system, is one of the most advanced multi-target anti-aircraft missile systems in the world today and has a reported ability to track up to 100 targets simultaneously while engaging up to 12 at the same time. It has a range of about 200 kilometers and can hit targets at altitudes of 27,000 meters.

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armstrade; geopolitics; globaljihad; iran; iraq; islam; israel; jihad; proliferation

1 posted on 09/14/2008 3:29:12 AM PDT by Strategy
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To: Strategy

It is not likely Croatia would have done this. They are pursuing Nato membership. It is more likely some other nation sold this system to Iran and wants to divert the attention of the West.


2 posted on 09/14/2008 3:38:30 AM PDT by John Robie
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To: Strategy
This is a violation of the treaty on advanced weapons proliferation by Russia. The UN should put strong economic sanctions on Russia immediately and America should have a military response. I would suggest a ramping up on offensive weapons systems R&D for the United States, both to punish Russia's violation and to bolster our defenses as we will need it.

Immediately the US should supply Israel with the refueling tanker and bunkerbuster bombs as requested and refused last week. Why should we hold back on supporting our friends when Russia is expanding support to our enemies against hard treatise?

3 posted on 09/14/2008 3:42:36 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Strategy

4 posted on 09/14/2008 3:52:43 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Strategy

How could it be that twenty year old russian surplus could be described as one of the most advanced systems in the world today?


5 posted on 09/14/2008 3:57:07 AM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: nkycincinnatikid

You have to remember whose writing, editing, and publishing that article.


6 posted on 09/14/2008 4:11:12 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Strategy

I believe there are several versions of that system.


7 posted on 09/14/2008 4:49:04 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Robert Byrd - Ex community organizer)
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To: nkycincinnatikid

It is a very nasty radar SAM system and highly capable, not easy to defeat. It is the predecessor to the newest S-400 which has an even longer range. How old do you think the Patriot System is?


8 posted on 09/14/2008 4:57:15 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
And just wait until the Soviet Russian new missile showrooms roll out the S-500!!!

http://www.missilethreat.com/missiledefensesystems/id.54/system_detail.asp

With improved cushioned Vodka storage compartments and integral Borscht dispenser systems! ;)
9 posted on 09/14/2008 6:10:54 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history. (Obama is his 2nd term))
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To: John Robie

During the Balkan wars Croatia was the most corrupt country in the Peninsula. It allowed its territory to be used to supply the mujahideen, and Croatian officals from top to bottom were on the take. If you go back to the post-Tito period you will find that the fascist (and it goes without saying, anti-Semitic) Croats who had found a home in southern South America made a beeline for home. Many were soon placed in high government positions. It is my hope that NATO has nothing to do with Croatia.


10 posted on 09/14/2008 7:10:02 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Melchior

Nato has already accepted them. It will be official within the year.

This article is not accurate.


11 posted on 09/14/2008 7:36:49 AM PDT by John Robie
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To: Melchior
During the Balkan wars Croatia was the most corrupt country in the Peninsula.

BS. One of the few redeeming characteristics of the Tudjman regime was that it wasn't as bad as the Milosevic regime - no other government was in such a close symbiotic relationship with their local mafia, and the Milosevic regime was just as happy to victimize Serbs as non-Serbs, as shown by the Jugoskandik and Dafiment Bank scandals.

12 posted on 09/14/2008 8:20:29 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Strategy

4 later


13 posted on 09/14/2008 10:37:12 AM PDT by AprilfromTexas
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To: nkycincinnatikid
How could it be that twenty year old russian surplus could be described as one of the most advanced systems in the world today?


Don't you know ANYTHING about sales???

14 posted on 09/14/2008 11:11:49 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Strategy

btt


15 posted on 09/14/2008 12:49:03 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Hoplite; Melchior
Iran was actually the the 7th country to recognize Croatia's indepenedence, and Croatia got real cozy with Iran when Croatia was transporting arms for Iran to the Bosnian Muslims. They have stayed pretty tight ever since.

Iran to Export Gas to Europe Via Croatia

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iran's ambassador to Croatia said that his country's natural gas will be transferred to the European Union via Croatian borders.

"Iran offered a proposition to Croatia for transferring its gas to Europe," Mohammad Hassan Fada'i added according to Press TV.

According to this proposition, a gas terminal will be established and Iran's gas pipeline will be extended to Switzerland and Austria through Croatian borders.

"According to a signed contract, Iran will export more than 25bln dollars worth of natural gas to Austria," he said, adding that Iran will also export more than 30bln dollars worth of gas to Switzerland, based on another contract which will be signed in the near future.

The envoy also mentioned that Iran and Croatia would also exchange experience in areas of tourism, shipping, and fishing.

Croatia’s NATO membership will benefit Iran

TEHRAN, Sept. 3 (MNA) -– Croatia’s President Stjepan Mesic said on Wednesday his country’s decision to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization will not jeopardize its relations with the Islamic Republic.

“In my opinion, Croatia’s membership in NATO or the European Union will not have any negative effect on Tehran-Zagreb relations,” Mesic said in a meeting with a group of Iranian journalists.

On the contrary, Iran will have the opportunity to develop closer relations with the EU through Croatia, he opined.

“Our decision to join NATO is due to some problems we have with some of our neighbors. For example a Serb party imagines that half of Croatia and Bosnia are part of Serbia’s territory. This shows that some groups have not yet given up their desire to extend territory.”

Mesic also said he plans to visit Iran in the near future.

16 posted on 09/14/2008 11:17:59 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Tennessean4Bush; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
The S-300, a Russian system, is one of the most advanced multi-target anti-aircraft missile systems in the world today and has a reported ability to track up to 100 targets simultaneously while engaging up to 12 at the same time.
...while the other 88 blow it to Hell, and the 100 it missed strike their intended targets. ;') What was the system the Syrians used to "prevent" the Israelis from destroying that nuclear weapons facility?
17 posted on 09/14/2008 11:20:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Melchior

Congrats on making the most ignorant post of the day!


18 posted on 09/15/2008 9:38:28 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Bokababe
Iran was actually the the 7th country to recognize Croatia's indepenedence, and Croatia got real cozy with Iran when Croatia was transporting arms for Iran to the Bosnian Muslims.

You do realize that was under American instruction? I should know, considering I was involved.

19 posted on 09/15/2008 9:40:46 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian

Aside from Slovenia there isn’t a Balkan state worth spit. (As a Croatian, I am sure you will find that despicable.)


20 posted on 09/15/2008 11:17:26 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Diocletian

I regret that I must ask you to explain how you were involved in the Croatia-Iran arrangement. Are you implying that you were one of Ambassador Galbraith/Bill Clinton stooges?


21 posted on 09/15/2008 11:23:22 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Melchior
"Aside from Slovenia there isn’t a Balkan state worth spit."

And Slovenia is, unfortunately, just Germany's stooge.

22 posted on 09/15/2008 10:33:46 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Diocletian

General Gotovina never spent a single day in South America - it’s all lies and innuendo in terms of why and what he was imagined to have done there (right?).


23 posted on 09/15/2008 10:44:31 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

Melchior was alluding to the Ustasha. Gotovina wasn’t a part of the Ustasha emigration to South America. Gotovina’s time in South America had to do with being a part of the French Foreign Legion...similar to how Milorad Ulemek, the man who planned the assassination of Djindjic and who was Arkan’s right hand man in the Tigers, served worldwide.


24 posted on 09/15/2008 10:47:33 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Bokababe

Slovenia is Alpine, not Balkan.


25 posted on 09/15/2008 10:48:28 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian
"Slovenia is Alpine, not Balkan."

And rain is wet. So?

26 posted on 09/16/2008 7:29:22 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: American in Israel

The S-300 is an air defense system. Air defense systems are regarded as defensive weapons. So much so that the exportering country doesn’t have to legally announce it on the U.N. Arms Register.

You are thinking about the likes of the Missile Technology Control Regime (MCTR). That is to do with ballistic offensive weapons and cruise missiles.

The S-300 system can be legally sold to whoever wants it. Russia has sold S-300s to the likes of China, Vietnam and Greece. It has also offered S-400s to Turkey to fulfil its SAM requirements.

The newspaper article is simpy very poor journalism. Croatia is not going to through away its NATO/Partnership for Peace future on such a stupid move. The story falls apart with the claims of Libyian naval ships. Libya rolled over to the west after Iraq was invaded. Western defense manufacturers are lining up to re-equip Libya with western arms. Even Libya isn’t daft enough in assisting Iran obtain weapons.


27 posted on 09/16/2008 4:32:29 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: SunkenCiv

Again a lot of hype. It was the likes of Debka that gave Syria an advanced air defense system. The Israelis skirted and used Turkish airspace to strike an undefended target in the Syrian desert. The Syrians took the gamble in not bringing attention to the site by not deploying SAMs around it. They gambled and lost. It was poor media such as Debka that gave Syria advanced Russian air defense systems.


28 posted on 09/16/2008 4:37:48 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: Polybius

Magnificent! Salute!


29 posted on 09/16/2008 5:27:45 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Polybius

Bravo! Bravississima!


30 posted on 09/16/2008 5:28:20 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Tommyjo

Thanks!


31 posted on 09/16/2008 10:54:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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