Posted on 09/14/2008 8:33:27 PM PDT by null and void
MELBOURNE: Scientists have discovered that going veggie could be bad for your brain-with those on a meat-free diet six times more likely to suffer brain shrinkage.
Vegans and vegetarians are the most likely to be deficient because the best sources of the vitamin are meat, particularly liver, milk and fish. Vitamin B12 deficiency can also cause anaemia and inflammation of the nervous system. Yeast extracts are one of the few vegetarian foods which provide good levels of the vitamin.
The link was discovered by Oxford University scientists who used memory tests, physical checks and brain scans to examine 107 people between the ages of 61 and 87.
When the volunteers were retested five years later the medics found those with the lowest levels of vitamin B12 were also the most likely to have brain shrinkage. It confirms earlier research showing a link between brain atrophy and low levels of B12.
Brain scans of more than 1,800 people found that people who downed 14 drinks or more a week had 1.6% more brain shrinkage than teetotallers. Women in their seventies were the most at risk.
Beer does less damage than wine according to a study in Alcohol and Alcoholism.
Researchers found that the hippocampus-the part of the brain that stores memories - was 10% smaller in beer drinkers than those who stuck to wine.
And being overweight or obese is linked to brain loss, Swedish researchers discovered. Scans of around 300 women found that those with brain shrink had an average body mass index of 27 And for every one point increase in their BMI the loss rose by 13 to 16%.
This thread is going to be priceless!
I was going to post this exact article, and much the same comment, when the FR servers went all flaky.
Well done, I say to you again, sir!
Cheers!

You beat me to it, that’s what I was going to say.
Cheers!
Just too many vegan liberals....
I have no idea what any of this means, but I don't like veggies and I ain't eatin' em!
Just too many vegan liberals....
I guess it’s true that we are what we eat.
Arugula.
Ironically, it is because we eat meat that we are intelligent.
According to evolutionists, if you believe them, we’d still be swinging from the trees or hobbling along on two feet if we hadn’t made the switch from all plants to both plants and meat.
A larger brain requires a very high calorie source of food that plants can’t provide. Our brains consume a great deal of energy.
Mr. President, try the broccoli...
Humans are on the top of it.
Deal with it!
Mankind didn't climb all the way to the top of it just to eat vegetables!
Vegan must be an old Indian word for "bad hunter"....
thanks, bfl
people that watch tv all day
fry their brains!
So was I....
Researchers found that the hippocampus-the part of the brain that stores memories - was 10% smaller in beer drinkers than those who stuck to wine.
Lazy writer.
Researchers found that the hippocampus-the part of the brain that stores memories - was 10% smaller in beer drinkers than those who stuck to wine.
Ok, so is it beer or wine that makes my brain smaller. And is there an alcoholic beverage that makes other organs larger...?
“Beer does less damage than wine according to a study in Alcohol and Alcoholism.
Researchers found that the hippocampus-the part of the brain that stores memories - was 10% smaller in beer drinkers than those who stuck to wine. “
Is it me, or do these sentences sound contradictory?
So, if you’re a fat, drunk vegetarian you’re brain has shrunk about 40%.
Yes, that explains a LOT.
So was I....
I wasn't going to.
Anybody else not going to post this and comment?
One of my friends dates a vegetarian. They joined us for dinner and a few drinks last night.
She is a nutcase that is supporting Obama. She said to me that Sarah Palin is a nazi.
Anyway, this just further supports the article about the brain shrinkage.
Both beer and wine make you think other organs are larger!
I know canned veggies are definitely not good for you on a consistant basis. The Sodium content is outrageous. Of course, it’s a preservative but still not good.
Somehow I knew that.
They also make the female kind seem smaller as well.
They're only contradictory to those who aren't drinking.
Ms Peta is fine after a few beers and some meat.
Frozen margaritas.
Vishwanathan Anand, current World Chess Champion, vegetarian since birth.
Srinivasa Ramanujan, arguably one of the greatest mathematicians of all time, vegetarian all his life. If an exception breaks the rule, the rule is broken
I really had to stare at that word “Abuse” for a bit. Wasn’t sure why...
I’m married, so my wife is the RULER of the house....
Cows = Dumb and Tasty
Tigers = Big, stringy and smart.
Says it all.
Eat Cows, consult a Tiger for Market Analysis
bttt
If only that were true....
Eat more moose
Wonder what the T & A means.
Wikipedia says:
"Quoting K. Srinivasa Rao,[85] "As for his place in the world of Mathematics, we quote Bruce C. Berndt: 'Paul Erdős has passed on to us G. H. Hardy's personal ratings of mathematicians. Suppose that we rate mathematicians on the basis of pure talent on a scale from 0 to 100, Hardy gave himself a score of 25, J.E. Littlewood 30, David Hilbert 80 and Ramanujan 100.'"
If someone ranked him above Hilbert, that's quite an accomplishment.
I still am a fan of von Neumann, however.
Cheers!
Gee I gotta quit peeking on DU.
Interestingly, I’m 52 and haven’t had anything vegetable in my mouth since November.
Meat and water only. And fatty meat, at that. Blood pressure’s way down, blood work is all outstanding...and I’ve lost over 35 pounds of fat and put on around 7 pounds of lean muscle.
I’ve done a LOT of reading and studying about this. Seems like veggies may not be all they’re cracked up to be.
You’ll have to pry those barbecued ribs from my cold, dead hands...
I like your taste in heroes, this would be a fun party!
It's my anniversary? Dang, I forgot to get myself a gift or anything; must have been too much beer or wine or...)
“She is a nutcase that is supporting Obama. She said to me that Sarah Palin is a nazi.”
well..consider also - how many of these vegans like to toke on those funny looking cigarettes?
The combined damage to the brain with the added cannabis-induced-paranoia, and the dull liberal brain is ripe for a vast number of conspiracy theories.
Just imagine how much smarter they could have been had they eaten meat :)
Now I understand.
I agree. These news articles are so funny. Why isn’t the headline Fat people loose brain cells or Drinking causes brain loss?
So to avoid B12 Deficiency I should Get Heart Disease and Cancer, no thanks.
If you do some research, it is actually very hard to be b12 deficient even as a vegetarian.
A quick look at cereal in my kitchen shows 1 serving has 45% of our daily needs. B12 is stored in the body for years, so it is very hard to be deficient unless you are eating very very narrow food choices.
I removed meat, oil and dairy from my diet and my standing heart rate went from 78 to 44. Much easier for your heart to pump blood when there is not sludge floating in your veins ;)
No meds, no asthma, no heart problems, no obesity, all with simple change in diet. Our bodies heal themselves if given a chance.
More info on b12 is here if interested: http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/nov/b12.htm
We veggie FReepers need to form our own Ping list ! :)
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