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The Big 'What If' (How will Black Americans react if Obama is defeated?)
WaPo ^ | 9/14/2008 | Randall Kennedy

Posted on 09/14/2008 10:00:22 PM PDT by mojito

....Never before have my emotions been so exercised by a political campaign. For one thing, never before has a candidate so fully challenged the many inhibitions that have prevented people of all races, including African Americans, from seriously envisioning presidential power in the hands of someone other than a white American. With intelligence, verve and elegance, Obama has opened the public mind to the idea of a black president and made that idea broadly attractive.

The senator's progressive politics, cosmopolitan ethos and pragmatic style have turned me into an enthusiastic supporter, and I savor the prospect of his triumph. But I'm watching this election very closely as I teach a course about it this semester. And I know that the conclusion to this electoral drama is far from determined. Yes, political gravity would seem to favor the Democratic candidate after two terms of Republican control of the White House. Yet the possibility is very real: Barack Obama could lose.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; blackamericans; blackvote; obama; obamabiden; randallkennddy
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If Obama loses, it will not be because of the color of his skin.

It will be because he's farther to the left than Michael Dukakis.

Does the Dukakis defeat mean that America is anti-Greek?

Of course not.

If Black Americans chooses to interpret an Obama defeat as a sign of latent racism, so be it.

Perhaps someday a conservative, patriotic African American candidate will come along and prove them wrong.

1 posted on 09/14/2008 10:00:22 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

That’s a puzzle, and I think it depends on where you live.

In Chicago, I don’t know what’ll be worse: victory or defeat.
Either will be societal sonic booms.... and possibly MOABs.


2 posted on 09/14/2008 10:03:44 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: mojito
How will Black Americans react if Obama is defeated?

Frankly Randall, I don't give a damn!

3 posted on 09/14/2008 10:05:07 PM PDT by DakotaGator
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To: mojito
When a sports team loses a championship, there are sometimes riots in the city of the losing team.

When a sports team wins a championship, there are sometimes riots in the city of the winning team.

The losing team itself usually fires the coach.
4 posted on 09/14/2008 10:05:20 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Pontius Pilate voted "Present")
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To: mojito

I have always believed that the first black president and the first female president would be conservatives. Liberal ones may come later, but the first ones would be conservatives. Only conservative blacks and women can garner the trust of middle America, who would be appalled, threatened, and repelled by the politics of a liberal black, with all that baggage, or a liberal woman, with her hordes of screaming lesbian feminists in tow. No one in middle America wants to grant more power to these distasteful groups, much less put them in the White House.

I would honestly like to see a black or a woman in the Oval Office. So would most Americans, for varying reasons. But not Obama, and not Hillary. More temperate representatives of their gender and race must be found.


5 posted on 09/14/2008 10:06:08 PM PDT by ottbmare
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To: mojito
"have turned me into an enthusiastic supporter, and I savor the prospect of his triumph. But I'm watching this election very closely as I teach a course about it this semester."

And as is the custom among educators, I'm sure this author/teacher is far too professional to show his bias in the classroom as he teaches his course this semester. (sarc off)

6 posted on 09/14/2008 10:06:30 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: mojito

If it is a close race and Obama loses I think there will be quite a bit of violence although not on the scale of LA. If McCain beats him by a wide margin I think we will have a lot of animosity and maybe a few scattered acts of violence. Any excuse to loot for some.


7 posted on 09/14/2008 10:06:48 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (My Freedom of speech trumps your feelings!)
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To: mojito

Some may riot, some will pout, but absolutely none will move out.


8 posted on 09/14/2008 10:08:03 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: mojito
I am a black man born in 1954, the year of Brown v. Board of Education. Fleeing the abuses of Jim Crow, my parents moved from South Carolina to Washington, D.C., later that decade. Tales of racial oppression and racial resistance were staples of conversation in our household. My father often spoke of watching Thurgood Marshall argue the case ( Rice v. Elmore) that invalidated the rule permitting only whites to vote in South Carolina's Democratic primary.

Really, Randall? Did they show the proceedings on TV in 1946 or did your Dad drive from South Carolina to Washington, D.C.?

9 posted on 09/14/2008 10:08:30 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (What do Barack Obama and a bowl of chili have in common?)
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To: mojito
I hope that I'll take to heart the wisdom offered by two of my students. "Obama losing," one wrote, "would be hurtful, but it still spells substantial progress. . . . Change WILL come -- the wheels have been set in motion." Declared the second: "Sometimes you have to believe in the change before it comes (and in the face of its apparent defeat) for the change to be possible."

Would someone please define this "change" the Obamabots keep prattling on about? It seems like they define "change" differently than the dictionary defines it, or common vernacular usages. Is it a code word? One of the above comments sounds chillingly like Victor Hugo's description of the French Revolution: "An idea whose time had come." Burke and Carlyle, of course, dismissed this as nonsense.

10 posted on 09/14/2008 10:09:30 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: mojito
Vote for McCain he is not Hussein . However ,I have enough ammo for either a Detroit style celebration or a LA type protest .
11 posted on 09/14/2008 10:09:54 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: mojito

“How will Black Americans react if Obama is defeated?”


I don’t care how they react.


12 posted on 09/14/2008 10:11:08 PM PDT by boycott
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To: mojito

I will celebrate.


13 posted on 09/14/2008 10:13:12 PM PDT by South40
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To: kbennkc
"I have enough ammo for either a Detroit style celebration or a LA type protest."

I have enough for both.

14 posted on 09/14/2008 10:15:07 PM PDT by blam
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To: boycott

How will whites react if McCain is defeated?

How will women react if the McCain/Palin ticket is defeated?

Isn’t it an insult to the vast majority of African-American people to hint that there could be violence if Obama doesn’t win this election?


15 posted on 09/14/2008 10:15:12 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: mojito

If Barack Hussein loses.

Looting, Rioting, Raping, Robbing, Purse Snatching, Car Jacking, Drive by Shootings. Just another day in the Projects.

Not to mention the Muslims.


16 posted on 09/14/2008 10:15:40 PM PDT by cquiggy
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To: kbennkc

At best, the blacks have a chance of getting a half-black elected this year. We could just as well call him white.


17 posted on 09/14/2008 10:18:20 PM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment-buy another gun today!)
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To: mojito

I thought he was half-white? Why not ask how white Americans will react?


18 posted on 09/14/2008 10:18:30 PM PDT by stockstrader (CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN-- 2 northern liberal, Washington insider, lawyer career bureaucrats/s)
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To: blam

Hey Blam you know you see how we riot when Lakers win champtionship it going be worst than that here in SO CAL 10 times WORST


19 posted on 09/14/2008 10:18:32 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: mojito
The Big 'What If' (How will Black Americans react if Obama is defeated?)
The only way it seems they know how. The same way they do when their favorite team wins...Turn over cars, throw rocks etc. at police, burn buildings, steal anything and everything in sight, what they don't take, destroy. The list is endless and the history of their pathetic ways is proof.
20 posted on 09/14/2008 10:19:04 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: mojito
The senator's progressive politics, cosmopolitan ethos and pragmatic style have turned me into an enthusiastic supporter, and I savor the prospect of his triumph.<<<< Thats OK!.....you're Young and restless (notice I didn't say foolish )
But I'm watching this election very closely as I teach a course about it this semester.<<<..

I would really love to know.....U CALL YOURSELF A TEACHER??????????????????????????????????

21 posted on 09/14/2008 10:19:20 PM PDT by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: mojito
"How will Black Americans react if Obama is defeated?"

They will likely riot, pillage, loot, burn, and go ape$hit as usual.

22 posted on 09/14/2008 10:19:54 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Palin/McCain 08- So let it be written, So let it be done!)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
!!!!!!!...Great analogy!!!
23 posted on 09/14/2008 10:21:38 PM PDT by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: mojito

When Obama loses, I do expect riots. It’ll make the Rodney King stuff look like child’s play.

I dunno about any of you, but I’ll have my rifle with me that day... win or lose. There will be riots either way.


24 posted on 09/14/2008 10:22:06 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: mojito

After the landslide on November 4th these should be the talking points:

Our base voted like it always did, and we didn’t have a problem with a WOMAN on our ticket.

YOUR BASE defected from Obama, so if you would like to call anyone racists start with DEMOCRATS, the party of segregation and the KKK. The democratic party’s chickens are coming home to roost!!!!

Because looking at the polls, that’s EXACTLY why Obama is going to lose.


25 posted on 09/14/2008 10:24:11 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: ottbmare

Absolutely, excellent post.


26 posted on 09/14/2008 10:25:22 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: mojito

Obama is supported by the Spoiled Brat Generation.

For the most part, white liberals will blame it on racism - they will not accept that their candidate or their judgement is flawed in any way.
Leading Democrat politicians will encourage this to keep the constituency mad at republicans instead of taking a critical look at the liberal establishment.

So most blacks will also blame it on racism, as they have been taught to blame all dis-satisfaction on racist whites.

Many may riot - especially idle young black men.

Others will just be more surly than usual or will take covert action to vent their anger - like spitting in your soup every chance they get, ala Jesse Jackson.


27 posted on 09/14/2008 10:26:18 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The Alaskan landscape is littered with the bodies of those who have crossed Sarah Palin)
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To: mojito

Sorry... if you think there will be riots if Obama is elected.... they’re NOTHING compared to the riots if he is elected.


28 posted on 09/14/2008 10:26:48 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: dr_who
GAWD!...you've nailed the problem!!!
29 posted on 09/14/2008 10:28:21 PM PDT by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: dr_who
GAWD!...you've nailed the problem!!!
30 posted on 09/14/2008 10:28:29 PM PDT by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: mojito
...will race-baiting intensify?...

In my view, Obama started the race-baiting, and continues it to this day.

What is his view on affirmative action? Soundly in favor. How many decades of affirmative action have we had? It was supposed to be a temporary measure.

I understand how being passed over for good jobs and promotions has been a problem for blacks, but now it has been a problem for white men for far too long.

If Obama really wanted to win the election he would come out with a promise and a plan to dismantle all affirmative action programs within his first 100 days.

Instead he wants to pander to blacks and alienate whites

32 posted on 09/14/2008 10:29:08 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Ramius

Yikes... I meant “if Obama *isn’t* elected.

Nuts.


33 posted on 09/14/2008 10:29:20 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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Yeah, and if Condi Rice were running for Pres as a Republican, would Mr Randall Kennedy vote for her, or would her be accusing her of be a racial sellout...?


34 posted on 09/14/2008 10:29:43 PM PDT by freebilly
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Oh please! This is the problem with the Affirmative Action culture. An equal chance is not enough. The right guy has to GET the job, scholarship, contract, whatever. But elections work differently. For now, anyway.
By the way, what score did Obama get on the Law School Admissions Test (LSAT). Harvard Law would normally require a very high score. Learning Obama’s LSAT result would tell us whether the admission was legit or the result of the racial spoils system prevalent in just about all our universities. What reporter will try to find out?
35 posted on 09/14/2008 10:33:11 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: mojito
To me Obama just doesn't seem like an American Black at all. He acts more like an international or a cosmopolitan, leftist white. I really wonder if our American Blacks relate to him as much as reported.
36 posted on 09/14/2008 10:34:50 PM PDT by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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Black Americans ought to figure out they have more in common with white Americans then they do with this anti-American citizen of the world.

Some people just don’t know what’s good for them.


37 posted on 09/14/2008 10:35:02 PM PDT by Aria ("An America that could elect Sarah Palin might still save itself." Vin Suprynowicz)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Isn’t it an insult to the vast majority of African-American people to hint that there could be violence if Obama doesn’t win this election?

They're the ones threatening the riots.

38 posted on 09/14/2008 10:37:21 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: basil

Correct! Why is this man considered black when he is bi-racial? He sees himself as black even though he is equally white.


39 posted on 09/14/2008 10:37:27 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: dr_who
Some may riot, some will pout, but absolutely none will move out.

Bravo! A classic tag line if there ever was one.

40 posted on 09/14/2008 10:38:20 PM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun)
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To: mojito
"Even if Barack Obama loses in November, he will have bequeathed to all America something that should bring comfort and pride to even the most disappointed of his followers. He has reached the edge of the pinnacle. And shown that we can stand atop it."

This is as mature an attitude as I've seen from a who-cares-if-he's-smoke-and-mirrors-and-cheated-to-get-here-HE'S BLACK supporter as I've seen.

Just as Sarah Palin gives a rational, likable face to the womens' movement and would likely not have the opportunity she does without much of the outlandishness that characterizes the NOW approach to womens' liberation, Obama can do the same for people of color.

Now someone of color who actually DOES have the character and qualifications he and his supporters only pretend he possesses--the fact that he is grossly unqualified is readily evident to anyone who takes the trouble to find the information the media refuses to make available the way they would if he were not their candidate--will have to give him credit for having blazed the trail for them.

Let's just pray that the phenomenon that is Barrack Obama is nothing more than a stepping stone for others more worthy, the way his cronies have been for him as he used them in his rapid ascent to power.

41 posted on 09/14/2008 10:39:23 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: mojito

I don’t think there will be riots or such, but the Democrat party has always been a coalition of special interests which really didn’t have much to do with each other. By default, an generic vanilla white male won out as a natural compromise of the interests.

In this election, women and blacks factions fought it out, and blacks won this one. This is really the first time coalition groups members have seriously fought it out against each other, and I think it will leave lasting damage to the coalition. This may begin the crack up of the Democrat party.


42 posted on 09/14/2008 10:39:35 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: blam

I don’t have enough ammunition to start a war.

But I do have enough to finish one.


43 posted on 09/14/2008 10:40:31 PM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun)
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To: mojito

If Obama loses people in the inner city will demand justice, Plasma TVS, and Escaldes.


44 posted on 09/14/2008 10:40:46 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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Randall Kennedy is eloquent and flowery, but he’s using the same flawed argument that is setting blacks up for the worst letdown in political history.

Like all liberals, he fails to ask the most important question about Obama, which is, “Where’s the beef?”

If he, and every other “enlightened” (and not-so-enlightened) liberal were to examine Obama half as closely as they’re examining Sarah Palin, they’d know that he’s not qualified to hold the office of US Senator, much less, president of the US.


45 posted on 09/14/2008 10:41:25 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: stockstrader

‘’half-white? Why not ask how white Americans will react?’

Buy stock in pharmaceuticals, there will be a rush on Prozac and Valium.


46 posted on 09/14/2008 10:45:28 PM PDT by Gemsbok (CIC means Commmander in Chief,....NOT CommunityOrganizer in Chief)
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To: mojito
I have always said the first Woman President and the First Black President would come from the Republican Party. It looks like half of my Prediction has an excellent chance of happening.
What I would like to see happen after Obama looses is for the blacks not to protest and riot - but to think about joining the winning team, the team that freed them from slavery in 1865, and from bondage in 2008
47 posted on 09/14/2008 10:48:00 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: mojito

Blacks still haven’t figured out that Hispanics are the new largest minoty. They are moving forward where blacks are mired in the past with slavery accusations, you whiteys owe me accusations and a quest for reparations

Obama being elected would boost Blacks over the Hispanics and give them more pull. More affirmative action too

But still does not negate the trend in Hispanic birthrates. They are ahead of Blacks and pulling away


48 posted on 09/14/2008 10:49:53 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! ::::::|::::: Never bet on Islam!)
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To: mojito
If Obama loses, I anticipate a lot of violence from the black community.

Many (not all) blacks loudly celebrated during the OJ Simpson verdict.

Many (not all) blacks were violent and destructive after the Rodney King police verdict.

Many (not all) blacks looted and destroyed New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

Many (not all) blacks believe that Jeremiah Wright is correct in his venomous and racist remarks toward white Americans.

Many (not all) believe and follow the words of hostile black racist muslims like Malcolm X and Louis Farrakhan.

There are other notable examples of their terrible behavior in America, which is what points to the distinct chance that many (not all) of them will continue more of the same behavior.

I just hope that I am wrong on my prediction, and that the vast majority of black folks prove that they are Americans and not Palestinians.

Just my $.02.


49 posted on 09/14/2008 10:50:17 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: ottbmare
I would honestly like to see a black or a woman in the Oval Office. So would most Americans, for varying reasons. But not Obama, and not Hillary. More temperate representatives of their gender and race must be found.

I've told every member of my liberal black family the same thing, and they look at me like I'm speaking gibberish.

It has never occurred to them, nor to Randall Kennedy, that Obama looks entirely different to middle America than he does to most blacks and the hard-core left. Their echo chamber doesn't admit facts, data, or any competing analysis of their candidate.

Sadly, that mindset has hobbled their ability to chose winning candidates and has contributed greatly to the destruction of their party.

50 posted on 09/14/2008 10:50:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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