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Please Barack Say You Didn't Try to Stall Troop Withdrawal until after the Elections
American Chronicle ^ | September 15, 2008 | Earl Ofari Hutchinson

Posted on 09/15/2008 2:27:43 PM PDT by Plutarch

The New York Post is no friend of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. Any knock of Obama by its editorial writers and op-ed columnists should be taken with the whole bag of salt. That´s likely the case with this stunning allegation that´s making its way around the internet courtesy of Post Columnist Amir Taheri. He alleges that in a private talk with Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari during his visit to Iraq in July, Obama allegedly tried to talk Zebari and other Iraqi leaders into stalling the phased withdrawal of U.S. troops from the country.

The alleged reason for the Obama request for a foot drag on troop withdrawal says Taheri was to give him an election boost. The Post´s Taheri allegedly says that Zebari says Obama put it this way, "He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the U.S. elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington." If true, this would be politically duplicitous and cynical election tact. It would be a huge body blow to Obama in light of his oft repeated mantra that he wants the troops out of Iraq as quickly as militarily possible.

Obama has at times shaded the mantra and said that he´d rely on the commanders on the ground to determine the pace of the withdrawal. But even that wouldn´t make the charge any less damaging to his credibility on Iraq—again if the charge is true.

The Iranian-born Taheri who reports the alleged "private" conversation between Obama and Zebari has been roundly and repeatedly slammed as a rabid, political ax grinding neo-con shill. He may well be that and more. Still, the charge is out there, so Team Obama please say that it´s nonsense.


Earl Ofari Hutchinson is an author and political analyst. His new book is How the GOP Can Keep the White House, How the Democrats Can Take it Back (Middle Passage Press, August 2008).


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amirtaheri; foreignpolicy; iraq; islam; mohammedanism; obamabiden; obamavisit; treason; zebari
This article was also posted at the Huffington Post. The lefties are fretting.
1 posted on 09/15/2008 2:29:08 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch

The truth will have to come from the Iraqis. Obama’s going to deny the charge even if true.


2 posted on 09/15/2008 2:31:33 PM PDT by Dawn531
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To: Plutarch

It’s in the hands of Mr. Taheri now, notes? photos? recording? And Mr. Zebari of course, If the Iraqi pols back this up it’s curtains for Barry.

I’m with an earlier poster who held that in July they probably thought an Obama presidency was “inevitable” so they gritted their teeth and put up with his idiotic bombast.

Now, however, the ground has shifted and I would imagine they would happily do whatever it took not to be sentenced to four years of this oaf.


3 posted on 09/15/2008 2:35:24 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Plutarch

If it ain’t on tape. It never happened.


4 posted on 09/15/2008 2:36:05 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares
If it ain’t on tape. It never happened.

Hussein will learn well from Bill Clinton,,,,

"DENY, DENY, DENY"!!

5 posted on 09/15/2008 2:39:18 PM PDT by stockstrader (CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN-- 2 northern liberal, Washington insider, lawyer career bureaucrats/s)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

“If it ain’t on tape. It never happened.”

Under that line of reasoning, Bill Clinton never got a Lewinsky.


6 posted on 09/15/2008 2:39:29 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Plutarch
The magnitude of the charges demand an investigation even if there is no evidence of it happening.

Or something there within or hitherto.

7 posted on 09/15/2008 2:40:14 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

If it IS on tape, we have an October surprise. Keeping my fingers crossed.


8 posted on 09/15/2008 2:40:47 PM PDT by LadyJMayo
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To: Luke21
How about.....

If it aint on tape they never said it.

If it aint on the dress they never had sex.

;)

9 posted on 09/15/2008 2:42:21 PM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

LOL


10 posted on 09/15/2008 2:42:20 PM PDT by MeekMom (Come on Cubbies!)
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To: Plutarch
Please Barack Say You Didn't Try to Stall Troop Withdrawal
until after the Elections


Well, I'm sure Obama will clear this up by submitting himself to
a lie-detector test.

For this and for questions over "Hidden-Muslim" identity.

And if you think he will...maybe you'd like to buy the Brooklyn Bridge
and the new bridge in Minneapolis from me.
11 posted on 09/15/2008 2:43:07 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Luke21

“If it ain’t on tape. It never happened.”

“Under that line of reasoning, Bill Clinton never got a Lewinsky.”

It wasn’t on tape, it was on the Blue Dress!


12 posted on 09/15/2008 2:43:40 PM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: LadyJMayo

Doesn’t make a difference regardless if there is a tape or not. Media will gloss over and play it off as “Neo-Cons over reacting” or some BS like that. No difference at all in my opinion.


13 posted on 09/15/2008 2:44:23 PM PDT by cups
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To: LadyJMayo

It was on Rush this morning. He had names, details and the reason was so if Obama is in the WH when the callout occurs, he, THE ANNOUNTED ONE, can take credit for the final pull out.


14 posted on 09/15/2008 2:44:24 PM PDT by cousair
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To: LadyJMayo

Doesn’t make a difference regardless if there is a tape or not. Media will gloss over and play it off as “Neo-Cons over reacting” or some BS like that. No difference at all in my opinion.


15 posted on 09/15/2008 2:44:34 PM PDT by cups
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To: Plutarch

War Zones on the Itinerary
New York Times, The (NY) - June 17, 2008
Author: JEFF ZELENY
It’s not just battleground states on the itinerary for the presidential
candidates. Senator Barack Obama said Monday that he also intended to visit Iraq
and Afghanistan before the November election.

One day after Senator John McCain met with Iraq’s foreign minister, Hoshyar
Zebari , Mr. Obama spoke to Mr. Zebari by telephone. Mr. Obama said he was
“encouraged” by reductions in violence in Iraq, but added that the United States
should withdraw troops at a pace of one to two brigades a month, with a goal of
removing most combat troops in 16 months.

“We have no interest in permanent bases in Iraq,” Mr. Obama said.

Among the issues being discussed between Mr. Zebari and the presidential
candidates is a long-term security accord between Iraq and the United States.
While the Bush administration would like to see an agreement reached by
midsummer, Mr. Obama said he opposed such a swift timetable.

“My concern is that the Bush administration, in a weakened state politically,
ends up trying to rush an agreement that in some ways might be binding to the
next administration,” Mr. Obama said, “whether it’s my administration or Senator
McCain’s administration.”

Mr. Obama , who has not been to Iraq for more than two years, said last month
that he would like to visit. After speaking to Mr. Zebari , he sounded more
definitive, saying, “I told him that I look forward to seeing him in Baghdad.”

Mr. McCain has invited Mr. Obama to take a joint trip to Iraq, a gesture that
Mr. Obama dismissed as a political stunt. Alex Conant, a Republican Party
spokesman, said it had been nearly 900 days since Mr. Obama visited, in January
2006.

Mr. Obama did not say Monday when he would be going, but said it would be
“before the election.”

//

Obama aide signals shift on Iraq policy
Washington Times, The (DC) - July 8, 2008
Author: Donald Lambro, THE WASHINGTON TIMES

EXCERPT

In a lengthy telephone call last month with Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari , Mr. Obama appeared to send a signal that his plan was far less rigid than he earlier suggested. Mr. Zebari said the presumptive Democratic nominee “reassured” him that he would do nothing to jeopardize Iraq’s security gains. “He will not take any drastic decisions, or reckless actions,” he said.


16 posted on 09/15/2008 2:48:35 PM PDT by maggief (Read my lip-stick!)
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To: Plutarch

I heard this on FoxNews this morning and Dan Senor said that the Iraqi’s Talibani is very direct and wouldn’t say somethign that wasn’t the truth. Obama has been busted. He wanted the glory of what President Bush was already working on and once again his underhandedness blew up in his face.


17 posted on 09/15/2008 2:49:55 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Plutarch

Biden did it. That darn Biden is going to ruin Barack’s chances.


18 posted on 09/15/2008 2:51:46 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Plutarch
Obama is screwed either way, in my opinion. If he owns up to it, he loses the election. If it is true and he denies it, in effect calling the Iraqis liars, he still has to deal with them if he wins the election.

He has about as much chance as a young boy in Barney Frank's bedroom of worming his way out of this one.

19 posted on 09/15/2008 2:52:04 PM PDT by PalmettoMason (Liberals' new talking point: Sarah Palin: Only five abortions away from the presidency.)
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To: PalmettoMason

bttt


20 posted on 09/15/2008 2:54:04 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: maggief

>“We have no interest in permanent bases in Iraq,” Mr. Obama said.

******************

Is not Iraq the “strategic high ground” of the Middle East?


21 posted on 09/15/2008 2:56:39 PM PDT by ROTB (Our Constitution [is] for a [Christian] people. It is wholly inadequate [for] any other. -John Adams)
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To: Plutarch


RUSH: On Summer Trip to Iraq, Obama Tried to Delay US Troop Pullout
22 posted on 09/15/2008 2:57:06 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: cousair
“It was on Rush this morning. He had names, details and the reason was so if Obama is in the WH when the callout occurs, he, THE ANNOUNTED ONE, can take credit for the final pull out.”

Yes, and I believe it did happen since it is just like Obama to have done it to make himself the hero in bringing home the troops as President (God Forbid!).

Time for the reporter to show the proof with video/audio or with new statements from the parties involved as to the validity of the claims. Since the Obama campaign has denied it so quickly, it makes me think the claims must be true!

23 posted on 09/15/2008 2:58:39 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: Luke21

“Under that line of reasoning, Bill Clinton never got a Lewinsky.”

Stained dress was as good as tape.


24 posted on 09/15/2008 3:01:59 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Plutarch

June 16, 2008

He said he told Zebari that negotiations for a Status of Forces agreement or strategic framework agreement between the two countries should be done in the open and with Congress’s authorization and that it was important that that there be strong bipartisan support for any agreement so that it can be sustained through a future administration. He argued it would make sense to hold off on such negotiations until the next administration.

“My concern is that the Bush administration—in a weakened state politically—ends up trying to rush an agreement that in some ways might be binding to the next administration, whether it was my administration or Sen. McCain’s administration,” Obama said. “The foreign minister agreed that the next administration should not be bound by an agreement that’s currently made.”

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1146329.aspx


25 posted on 09/15/2008 3:05:54 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Between the Lines

...this oughta eat up three more news cycles...real or contrived.


26 posted on 09/15/2008 3:08:58 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: seekthetruth
I was a bit skeptical when I read the report early this morning, I figured the report didn't have legs and would die a quick death.

This afternoon, after being away from all media most of the day, I find out the story does indeed have legs and that the Obama campaign has already commented on it.

You're correct, if this was a nothing story, Obama would just ignore it, yet to make a statements this quickly, IMO, gives this report more credibility.

27 posted on 09/15/2008 3:13:46 PM PDT by Brytani ("Proud Member of the Lipstick Rebellion - McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Brytani
“We have no interest in permanent bases in Iraq,” Mr. Obama said. What an ignorant thing to say. We NEED a US base in the Middle East. And Iraq is a perfect location, plus it would boost their economy too.
28 posted on 09/15/2008 3:41:23 PM PDT by Shadraq
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To: Plutarch
“We have no interest in permanent bases in Iraq, Mr. Obama said”

Excuse me?? Where does this manque President get off putting forth American policy before the November election?? His arrogance is only superseded by his immaturity. I hope the whole thing blows up in his face. Like now.

29 posted on 09/15/2008 3:45:28 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Shadraq

I’ll never be accused of stating Obama wants what is best for the US and our interests abroad.


30 posted on 09/15/2008 3:46:23 PM PDT by Brytani ("Proud Member of the Lipstick Rebellion - McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Plutarch

Remember Obama’s NAFTA flap with the Canadian government during the primaries?


31 posted on 09/15/2008 4:03:41 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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