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China exports attack craft to Sudan
upiasia ^ | 9/17/08 | By Andrei Chang

Posted on 09/17/2008 8:42:45 PM PDT by Flavius

Hong Kong, China — China’s official media have released photos of K-8 fighter trainers demonstrating impressive attack power against land-based targets. The aircraft are the same model that China has exported to Sudan, ostensibly for training purposes.

However, the K-8 trainers are very much like standard attack aircraft, and their tactical application in the Sudanese Air Force is not only for training but also for land attack operations. The K-8 has flight endurance of three hours, a maximum flight range of 2,100 kilometers, and its combat radius covers the whole of Sudan’s territory

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; armstrade; china; geopolitics; redjihad; sudan

1 posted on 09/17/2008 8:42:46 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

it looks 1959ish.


2 posted on 09/17/2008 8:49:20 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Flavius

Looks like a BAE Goshawk.


3 posted on 09/17/2008 8:54:56 PM PDT by tanuki (Summum ius summa iniura. (The more law, the less justice))
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To: ken21

Primitive isn’t it?

Might as well crank up the A4 line, the A4 would outperform their K-8.


4 posted on 09/17/2008 8:58:18 PM PDT by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: valkyry1

yeah,

but if you’re on a camel,

this thing’s got you down.


5 posted on 09/17/2008 8:59:13 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: ken21

true true

unless you get a stinger or two


6 posted on 09/17/2008 9:01:48 PM PDT by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: valkyry1

yeah,

that’s how we got the soviets out of afghanistan,

and later, we got in!

ironic, isn’t it.

china’s going to control africa.


7 posted on 09/17/2008 9:03:23 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Jeff Head

PLAF K-8 export thread


8 posted on 09/17/2008 9:13:03 PM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: ken21

//ironic, isn’t it.//

yes it is.

//china’s going to control africa.//

Africa is an bottomless pit for all who try to control it IMO.


9 posted on 09/17/2008 9:18:05 PM PDT by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Flavius

For a typical strike mission, how many slaves will be required to push it to the target area? Won’t the wheels bog down in the sand?


10 posted on 09/17/2008 9:18:56 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Flavius

Is it me, or does the skin of this aircraft look a little mottled - it isn’t the paint, it looks like they hammered out dents and got them almost smooth.


11 posted on 09/17/2008 9:30:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Flavius

I wonder if the Sudanese animists and Christians would like a pack of Stingers.


12 posted on 09/17/2008 9:37:36 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: valkyry1; ken21; tanuki

It’s an intermediate jet trainer-a level below the Hawk/Goshawk so it’s not meant to be flashy. The PRC has two advanced jet trainer projects going on at the moment.


13 posted on 09/18/2008 6:22:54 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: valkyry1
Africa is an bottomless pit for all who try to control it IMO.

I think it is a tossup- I don't underestimate either party's commitment to brutality and disregard for human life.
14 posted on 09/18/2008 9:53:23 AM PDT by philled ("I prefer messy democracy to the stability of tyrants." -- Howar Ziad, Iraqi Ambassador to Canada)
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To: valkyry1
Might as well crank up the A4 line, the A4 would outperform their K-8.

Sure, but the K-9 is a real dog.

15 posted on 09/18/2008 9:57:00 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: ken21
it looks 1959ish.

If so astonishingly advanced for the time

Czech Aero L-39 first flight 1971

British Aerospace Hawk first flight 1974

Spainsh CASA 101 first flight 1977

Yugoslav SOKO Super Galeb first flight 1978

Taiwan AT-3 AIDC first flight 1980

16 posted on 09/18/2008 10:05:32 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Does anyone remember the olden days when the US presidential election was boring?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Thanks for the info.


17 posted on 09/18/2008 10:13:30 AM PDT by tanuki (Summum ius summa iniura. (The more law, the less justice))
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To: Oztrich Boy

the point is,

it does not look like 2008.


18 posted on 09/18/2008 10:26:45 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: ken21
the point is, it does not look like 2008

Actually it does. Since the 70s military Jet Trainers either look like the British Aerospace Hawk or the Dassault/Dornier Alpha jet. Still do

Russian MiG-AT first flight 1996

Indian HAL HJT-36 first flight 2003

19 posted on 09/18/2008 10:45:44 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Does anyone remember the olden days when the US presidential election was boring?)
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To: ken21
the point is,it does not look like 2008.

Shiny, expensive, high-tech weapon systems are great for countries that need them and can afford them.

Sudan is not one of those countries- any opponents it is likely to face will be even lower tech than the Sudanese military. And Sudan simply does not have the military infrastructure to maintain any advanced weapon system.

We have to remember that most ongoing conflicts in the world today involve mostly light infrantry with some artillery and maybe a little armored support. Only a handful of nations in the world have the ability (and need) to support an advanced military.

20 posted on 09/18/2008 10:54:32 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Citizen Blade

i thought we covered that point at the beginning,

when i said if you’re on a camel, you’re dead.


21 posted on 09/18/2008 10:57:10 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Citizen Blade

#5 above.


22 posted on 09/18/2008 10:58:02 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
does the skin of this aircraft look a little mottled

sometimes the beer cans aren't perfectly smooth to start with.......

23 posted on 09/18/2008 11:02:15 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: CougarGA7

//Sure, but the K-9 is a real dog.//

Thats why a ‘wolf’ runs alone, all the K-9’s become -10’s :-)


24 posted on 09/18/2008 9:08:59 PM PDT by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008)
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