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‘Objectivist’ Writer: Trig Palin a Financial Burden Who Should Have Been Aborted
NewsBusters ^ | September 17, 2008 | Rusty Weiss

Posted on 09/18/2008 8:55:35 AM PDT by Zakeet

In stunningly self-centered, cruel fashion, Nicholas Provenzo, writer for the Center for the Advancement of Capitalism suggests that Sarah Palin’s decision to give birth to a child with Down Syndrome, is a financial burden that others are forced to suffer with.

Provenzo, who has written opinion pieces for the Washington Times, Capitalism Magazine, and the Atlanta Journal Constitution, as well as being a guest on Bill Maher’s former show, Politically Incorrect, makes his case for “the morality of aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down syndrome.”

The full first paragraph of the piece which is circulating amidst the blogosphere reads (emphasis mine):

Like many, I am troubled by the implications of Alaska governor and Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's decision to knowingly give birth to a child disabled with Down syndrome. Given that Palin's decision is being celebrated in some quarters, it is crucial to reaffirm the morality of aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down syndrome (or by extension, any unborn fetus)—a freedom that anti-abortion advocates seek to deny.

Morally justifiable reasons for killing a baby? There is no justifiable reason for taking any child's life, and to call it a moral obligation to society is undeniably one of the more disgusting things to be written by a human being, about another human being.

In fact, advocating the abortion of a child based on the potential of that child having a disease or imperfection of some kind raises echoes of Nazi Germany’s quest for an Aryan race.

The suggestion that another life should be ended based on the presence of an extra chromosome, and that another healthy individual’s own life is more precious because of that, is over the top narcissism.

Maybe this shouldn’t surprise quite so much. After all, it wasn’t too long ago that sick individuals were offering up baby Trig on ebay. We live in a society where skeptics simply can't admire someone who stands on their principals. They must tear them down by insinuating that such a move is merely a political prop. Or, in this case, they argue that choosing life was actually a selfish move. A stunning argument to say the least.

However, Mr. Provenzo demonstrates his own level of selfishness in his rant. He doesn’t go the typical route of the pro-choice crowd, but reveals some very bizarre reasoning for why it is Palin’s obligation to have killed her baby boy – the care, love and effort required to raise Trig is a cost that others must bear.

A parent has a moral obligation to provide for his or her children until these children are equipped to provide for themselves. Because a person afflicted with Down syndrome is only capable of being marginally productive (if at all) and requires constant care and supervision, unless a parent enjoys the wealth to provide for the lifetime of assistance that their child will require, they are essentially stranding the cost of their child's life upon others.

I think Trig, and everyone who values life as a precious gift, all life, is extremely grateful for the Palin’s decision, no matter the challenges. Trig is a blessing and an inspiration to the conservative pro-life movement, as are Sarah and Todd Palin for making the right choice, the only choice.

And, if Mr. Provenzo needs examples of how someone with Down Syndrome has gone above and beyond the state of being ‘marginally productive,’ he only need look here, here, and of course, here, among countless others. In fact, I am quite certain that our very own readers could cite personal stories of their own.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; aynrand; babykilling; democrats; elections; jerk; liberalhate; liberals; mediabias; moralabsolutes; msm; nicholasprovenzo; nobama08; palin; palinfamily; provenzo; rand
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Provenzo: Sarah Palin had a moral obligation to kill this baby!

1 posted on 09/18/2008 8:55:35 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

“Trig Palin a Financial Burden Who Should Have Been Aborted”

You can make a better case for that with “objectivist” writers.


2 posted on 09/18/2008 8:58:12 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: Zakeet

the author is a disgrace to the vowel at the end of his name.

provenzo - merde


3 posted on 09/18/2008 8:59:23 AM PDT by palomonte (see the light or feel the heat)
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To: Zakeet

btt


4 posted on 09/18/2008 8:59:41 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Zakeet

So what he is saying is that any human being who is a financial burden to society should die. So any fetus of a mother who does not have the financial means to provide for her baby should be aborted.


5 posted on 09/18/2008 9:00:36 AM PDT by noob4palin (That's Governor Palin to you.)
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To: Zakeet

That statement is the antithesis of Objectivism. No real Objectivist would make that decision for another person- that would be human collectivism. Rand warned about people taking on her mantle for their own purposes.


6 posted on 09/18/2008 9:00:40 AM PDT by mnehring (Maverick/Barracuda 2008)
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To: palomonte

Rusty, you are not worthy of breathing the air you breathe. Crawl back into your hole and STAY there!!


7 posted on 09/18/2008 9:00:44 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (What came first? Ignorance or Dems)
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To: Kathy in Alaska; txradioguy; beachn4fun; StarCMC; Lady Jag; laurenmarlowe; GodBlessUSA; fatima; ...

Comment # - self censored by Arrowhead1952.


8 posted on 09/18/2008 9:00:57 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Sarah Palin is NOT worried about anything being above her pay grade!)
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To: Zakeet

I may be wrong, but wasn’t this Hitler’s philosophy too?


9 posted on 09/18/2008 9:01:38 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Zakeet
they are essentially stranding the cost of their child's life upon others.

Is he talking about the hundreds of thousand welfare reciepients?

10 posted on 09/18/2008 9:01:44 AM PDT by shiva
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To: Zakeet

“..a financial burden that others are forced to suffer with.”

How the he!! can this child be a financial burden to anyone? Judging by his parent’s ability to make ends meet,his parents will certainly be financially able to take care of him.He wasn’t born to a crack whore or welfare queen,so what’s up with that?
Oh,it’s the lamestream media..never mind..


11 posted on 09/18/2008 9:02:02 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Supporting NObama makes about as much sense as asking Chuck to stand up.)
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To: Zakeet

it is crucial to reaffirm the morality of aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down syndrome (or by extension, any unborn fetus).....or especially if they are libs, elites or homos, hmmmmm? Or maybe, as Planned Parenthood agenda says, blacks? Hmmmmm.


12 posted on 09/18/2008 9:03:34 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Lord, I'll give to the poor when they stop wanting to be poor.)
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To: Zakeet

And if your healthy child suffers an accident or devastating illness later in life we should kill them too??? How do these monsters look in the mirror?


13 posted on 09/18/2008 9:04:31 AM PDT by hilaryrhymeswithrich (I AM Sarah Palin!)
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To: Zakeet

Obama has nailed down the “moral imbecile” demographic.


14 posted on 09/18/2008 9:04:38 AM PDT by marron
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To: Zakeet
What a sorry excuse for a human being this Lib is. If he wants to revel in his wantonness, that is his prerogative, but how date he claim that it would be the MORAL thing to do to have aborted this precious gift from God. Convenient, yes; moral, no.

unless a parent enjoys the wealth to provide for the lifetime of assistance that their child will require, they are essentially stranding the cost of their child's life upon others.

What's next? Welfare recipients having their tubes forcibly tied because they can't provide for their children? I don't think he would want to suggest that in a Democrat crowd.

15 posted on 09/18/2008 9:04:53 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: tsmith130
I may be wrong, but wasn’t this Hitler’s philosophy too?

You're not wrong:

"60,000 Reichsmark is what this person suffering from hereditary defects costs the community during his lifetime. Fellow Germans, that is your money, too. Read 'New People', the monthly magazine of the Bureau for Race Politics of the Nazi Party."

16 posted on 09/18/2008 9:05:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Zakeet

Nicholas Provenzo — the devil’s own.


17 posted on 09/18/2008 9:05:53 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Sarah Palin just field dressed the Obama campaign.)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

Rusty is the Newsbusters writer pointing out the column by Nicholas Provenzo.


18 posted on 09/18/2008 9:05:56 AM PDT by Borges
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To: rightwingcrazy

Yes, or maybe one could say the same for some of the lower elements in our society.


19 posted on 09/18/2008 9:06:11 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Zakeet

Mr. Provenzo needs to pray to whatever entity he worships that someone does not begin to feel a “moral” obligation to keep HIM from wasting any more of the earth’s precious natural resources.


20 posted on 09/18/2008 9:06:45 AM PDT by WayneS (Vote Obama bin Biden 2008 - "Because the world doesn't suck enough yet".)
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To: Zakeet

This idiot is no Objectivist.


21 posted on 09/18/2008 9:07:07 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Heartland Mom

Well, he accomplished his real objective. He will be a guest on many liberal media outlets in the coming weeks.


22 posted on 09/18/2008 9:07:10 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Zakeet
‘Objectivist’ Writer: Trig Palin a Financial Burden Who Should Have Been Aborted

And welfare recipients are not a burden. Go figure.

Actually, the BIG story should be:

"‘Objectivist’ Writer: Down's Syndrome Babies Do Not Have the Right To Live."

Properly reworded statements by liberals have a tendency to expose their real views, beliefs, and philosophies.

23 posted on 09/18/2008 9:07:29 AM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: Zakeet

I wonder what his position is on ending the life of the terminally ill, the elderly, and others who are only “marginally productive”.


24 posted on 09/18/2008 9:07:44 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Heartland Mom
Welfare recipients having their tubes forcibly tied because they can't provide for their children?

Well...now that you mention it...........

25 posted on 09/18/2008 9:07:58 AM PDT by Osage Orange (We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek. - Obama)
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To: dfwgator

Thats why he called it the National SOCIALIST Party. The individual is nothing, the collective is all.
That was an absolutely disgusting thing to say...


26 posted on 09/18/2008 9:08:06 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: noob4palin

I THINK that is what he is saying.

The logical conclusion of his “plan” would sure lead to a reduction in demand for government subsidized housing, wouldn’t it?


27 posted on 09/18/2008 9:08:19 AM PDT by WayneS (Vote Obama bin Biden 2008 - "Because the world doesn't suck enough yet".)
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To: Zakeet
Trig ROCKS!! All babies are blessings from God and Trig is no exception.

As for the piece of trash that wrote this - there aren't words (allowable here) to express how I feel about this bird cage liner.
28 posted on 09/18/2008 9:09:19 AM PDT by ninergold3 (Christ would not vote for Barack Obama...Alan Keyes)
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To: dfwgator

Bump


29 posted on 09/18/2008 9:09:35 AM PDT by cdbull23 (What's going on in my brain? Check it out: www.cainsbrain.com)
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To: Zakeet

Pure evil.


30 posted on 09/18/2008 9:10:22 AM PDT by Shanda
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To: Zakeet

There is a Prof Singer at Priceton that made the same case several years ago. Was cornered like a rat on campus by some students in wheelchairs shortly afterwards.


31 posted on 09/18/2008 9:10:52 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Fire the CIA and hire the Free Clinic, someone who knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: marron
Obama has nailed down the “moral imbecile” demographic.

The whole thing is really fascinating. Abortion is considered (even by most supporters) to be a shameful thing. It's done quietly. Most people don't talk about it. It's far too common, but it sometimes seems invisible. Therefore, a lot of people are not outraged by abortion (40 million dead) because they do not have an enhanced awareness of it.

Special needs is different. Everyone knows someone with special needs. Everyone has someone with special needs in their family. Our schools are full of kids with special needs.

And the Obama platform is basically: THOSE are the people we wish had been killed.

I think there are millions of people who will be outaged -- and they may even start looking at abortion and say "Killing babies seemed so innocent and harmless, I never really cared -- but now I see that these monsters are killing babies!"

32 posted on 09/18/2008 9:10:58 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Michelle, spare me your phony outrage, you know as well as I do that dress makes your butt look big)
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To: Zakeet
A parent has a moral obligation to provide for his or her children until these children are equipped to provide for themselves. Because a person afflicted with Down syndrome is only capable of being marginally productive (if at all) and requires constant care and supervision, unless a parent enjoys the wealth to provide for the lifetime of assistance that their child will require, they are essentially stranding the cost of their child's life upon others.

The author's argument is equally applicable to members of the Welfare Class, but is unlikely to be so applied.

33 posted on 09/18/2008 9:11:11 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: Zakeet

It is good to have occasional reminders why we don’t want NAZI’s deciding who lives and dies, under socialized medicine.


34 posted on 09/18/2008 9:11:15 AM PDT by G Larry ("Disgust" is a valid expression!-Vote Family Values!)
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To: noob4palin
Why dont they go a step further and say anyone alive who is a burden on society should be “adult aborted?” I could see that going over REAL well (sarc).

I have always wanted to ask a pro-abort if they think it would have been a good idea for their mother to participate in this practice.

35 posted on 09/18/2008 9:12:36 AM PDT by Raider Sam
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To: Zakeet

I didn’t believe in reincarnation until now — because in this monstrous pissant, Joseph Mengele has apparently rejoined us.


36 posted on 09/18/2008 9:13:49 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: Zakeet
Wow, when you read the statement and let it sink in, this jerk's statement begins to sound like the Philosophy of another great philanthropist.

It was called "The Final Solution."

These guys are scarey.

37 posted on 09/18/2008 9:14:04 AM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

Moderators please remove my previous post.

Sincerest and humble apologies Rusty! I feel like a fool.

I menat to say: Nicholas Provenzo.


38 posted on 09/18/2008 9:14:08 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (What came first? Ignorance or Dems)
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To: Zakeet

“..suggests that Sarah Palin’s decision to give birth to a child with Down Syndrome, is a financial burden that others are forced to suffer with.”

The writer would be a high-ranking member of the SS in Hitler’s Germany.


39 posted on 09/18/2008 9:14:56 AM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: Raider Sam

"Enter the Carousel. This is the time of renewal."

40 posted on 09/18/2008 9:15:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Zakeet

I’m sure that Provenzo would have experienced a rare delight if it had been possible for him to abort Trig Palin himself.

Of course I suspect that Todd Palin would have acted appropriately and we would now be reading Provenzo’s obituary.

What a disgusting piece of inhuman sh*t this Provenzo is.


41 posted on 09/18/2008 9:16:01 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Hahahaha.... I love it John! I’ve never seen a “self censored” comment!


42 posted on 09/18/2008 9:16:52 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Obama prays to himself: "The prayer that I tell myself every night ...")
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To: BornToBeAmerican

There is no shame in admitting an honest mistake.


43 posted on 09/18/2008 9:17:24 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: Zakeet

Real humans don’t make life and death decisions based solely on some elitist and extremist notion of “value”. This guy would have fit in well with the Nazis.


44 posted on 09/18/2008 9:17:51 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Zakeet

Too bad Nicholas’s Mother wasn’t a baby killer.


45 posted on 09/18/2008 9:18:28 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Obama prays to himself: "The prayer that I tell myself every night ...")
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To: Zakeet

There was a time when Objectivist writers would have deplored the system that places such a financial burden on others. Sarah Palin herself has no personal power to make us pay for the care of others. That’s the power of the welfare state.
Rand would not have been pleased by such intellectual slovenliness.


46 posted on 09/18/2008 9:18:40 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Where is Michelle Obama? Somewhere a campaign is missing its albatross.)
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To: Zakeet

If you cannot fill the needs of the State, you have no purpose!

Yeah, sign me up for that/sarc


47 posted on 09/18/2008 9:18:46 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Now you know why the needles on compasses point north - Sarah Palin.)
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To: Zakeet

By this guys thinking, Casey Anthony would be considered a hero.


48 posted on 09/18/2008 9:21:10 AM PDT by dfwgator
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‘Objectivist’ Writer: Trig Palin a Financial Burden Who Should Have Been Aborted

This so called 'objectivist' writer is a drain on society and should be aborted.

49 posted on 09/18/2008 9:21:25 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Zakeet

Not too surprising he appeared on Maher’s show. One, the scum of the earth and the other even worse.


50 posted on 09/18/2008 9:21:46 AM PDT by yarddog
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