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Michigan's jobless rate rises to 8.9 pct in August
Forbes.com ^ | 09.18.08 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/18/2008 11:48:20 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan

Michigan's unemployment rate rose to 8.9 percent in August, according to a monthly report released Wednesday.
That's up from 8.5 percent in each of the previous three months, which already ranked as worst in the nation. The national jobless rate for August was 6.1 percent.

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Michigan has had the nation's highest average annual jobless rate since 2006.
1 posted on 09/18/2008 11:48:21 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: MaryFromMichigan

From Michigan here. Ugly situation.


2 posted on 09/18/2008 11:49:59 AM PDT by Moleman
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Add Kwame to the list.


3 posted on 09/18/2008 11:50:25 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Drop the Zero and vote for a Hero. McCain-Palin 2008)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Blue/Union cesspool


4 posted on 09/18/2008 11:50:41 AM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

“and in five years...”


5 posted on 09/18/2008 11:51:41 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Gov. Granholm=Garbage)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Michigan needs to raise taxes again. Increase regulations and taxes on businesses again. That should fix the problem.


6 posted on 09/18/2008 11:54:35 AM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime member of the "Christian-Radical-Right-Wing-Conspirators")
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Like Democrati run Michigan?

You will loive Obama,Pelosi and Reid.


7 posted on 09/18/2008 11:55:08 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: dragonblustar
Add Kwame to the list.

That's the only good news around here.
8 posted on 09/18/2008 11:55:41 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Good luck trying to sell a home.


9 posted on 09/18/2008 11:55:52 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: MaryFromMichigan

why oh why are we so afraid to point out who have been in charge of these failed states and cities?


10 posted on 09/18/2008 11:56:25 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: MaryFromMichigan

McCain needs to tie Jennifer Granholm around Obama’s neck.

She is more unpopular than Bush.


11 posted on 09/18/2008 11:56:33 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Yay outsourcing and high taxes. [/sarc]


12 posted on 09/18/2008 11:59:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Yeah, They are gonna get a car loan. No doubt.


13 posted on 09/18/2008 12:01:08 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan; All
Grew up in Berrien County which borders Indiana, and is right on "THE LAKE" (Michigam).

I live in Florida now. I went back for a visit. I saw this after I came home, and still have to laugh every time I see it!!


14 posted on 09/18/2008 12:01:18 PM PDT by musicman (Sarah Palin Runs A STATE - Barack Obama Runs His MOUTH)
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To: All

I’m sorry, but the citizens of Michigan are hopeless.

They have re-elected Granholm, and are deserving of their circumstances, and now they are looking for a Presidential candidate who will bail them out and provide them hand-outs, now that they have effectively sunk their own state.


15 posted on 09/18/2008 12:01:58 PM PDT by Madeleine Ward
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To: MaryFromMichigan

The Governor promised that we’d be “blown away” with her performance. She was right!


16 posted on 09/18/2008 12:04:36 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affimative Action Candidate)
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To: musicman

You forgot the State Bird: the mosquito


17 posted on 09/18/2008 12:05:35 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affimative Action Candidate)
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To: CPT Clay

Only one thing surprises me.
It was bad back in the 60s when I went to college up there.
It’s still bad, only much worse.


18 posted on 09/18/2008 12:07:52 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Madeleine Ward
I’m sorry, but the citizens of Michigan are hopeless.

Whoops, is this part of the brainless Americans?

19 posted on 09/18/2008 12:08:08 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Our #1 exports?

Educated workers, college grads and all types of jobs.


20 posted on 09/18/2008 12:09:06 PM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Are the only employed people in Michigan working in the casinos? I am wondering if anyone can add to this thought: when Engler was governor in Michigan, we did not have this overload of casinos. Business was booming and pretty much anybody who wanted to work had a job. Now we have an overload of casinos with the promise of more to come and we have the worst economy! What is the connection? I think there is one, but I would need proof somehow to actually say so. IMO—casinos are nothing more than toilet drains in the state of Michigan. All the money that is wasted by retirees and the down and out crowd, could have been better spent buying durable goods, eating out, vacationing(for real), buying a car(american made) or maybe even helping their families or grandkids go to college. Maybe I am wrong, but I think not.


21 posted on 09/18/2008 12:10:46 PM PDT by truthingod
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To: MaryFromMichigan

I live in Michigan and the City of Lansing for one just laid off hundreds of seasonal employees that in turn filed for unemployment. This may have happened all around the state and account for the increase. Seasonal job holders knew their position was limited and many will find other seasonal work soon.


22 posted on 09/18/2008 12:11:43 PM PDT by Michigan CD
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To: Madeleine Ward

Not this Michigan gal!


23 posted on 09/18/2008 12:12:10 PM PDT by truthingod
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Ask Joe Biden, it is Patriotic to pay more taxes... tax us back into prosperity.


24 posted on 09/18/2008 12:12:39 PM PDT by just me (Looks like the MSM moonbats have been infected with rabies..)
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To: Kieri

Priceless.....


25 posted on 09/18/2008 12:13:50 PM PDT by truthingod
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To: musicman

I laughed, and laughed, then I smiled and I laughed again. Thanks.


26 posted on 09/18/2008 12:14:27 PM PDT by truthingod
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For anyone living in Michigan... who gets the blame for the poor economy? I know there is a Democratic governor but do they blame her or point the finger at Washington?


27 posted on 09/18/2008 12:17:44 PM PDT by ruschpa
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To: Madeleine Ward
They have re-elected Granholm,
Actually, Detroit elected her. Most of the rest of the state was red.
28 posted on 09/18/2008 12:18:28 PM PDT by Moleman
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To: MaryFromMichigan
Keep voting Dem Michigan!. Obama is sure to solve your problems---NOT!

vaudine

29 posted on 09/18/2008 12:20:38 PM PDT by vaudine (RO)
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To: ruschpa

Back in the 60s, the Mich license plates used to say
“Winter Wonderland” one year and “Water Wonderland” the next.
We used to call it the “Water Winter Welfare Wonderland”


30 posted on 09/18/2008 12:20:59 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: truthingod
Are the only employed people in Michigan working in the casinos? I am wondering if anyone can add to this thought: when Engler was governor in Michigan, we did not have this overload of casinos. Business was booming and pretty much anybody who wanted to work had a job. Now we have an overload of casinos with the promise of more to come and we have the worst economy! What is the connection? I think there is one, but I would need proof somehow to actually say so. IMO—casinos are nothing more than toilet drains in the state of Michigan. All the money that is wasted by retirees and the down and out crowd, could have been better spent buying durable goods, eating out, vacationing(for real), buying a car(american made) or maybe even helping their families or grandkids go to college. Maybe I am wrong, but I think not.

I don't think the casinos have had much negative effect...particularly on the unemployment rate. Michigan's poor economy is based solely on the automotive problems, and Granholm's foolhardy raising of small business taxes. If anything, the casinos have kept some money in the area that would've gone to the Windsor (Canada) casinos right over the bridge/tunnel from Detroit. Michigan needs to diversify its economy, plain and simple. When America gets a cold, Michigan has the flu. When America is doing well, Michigan has usually exceeded the nation. Very volatile economy due to the auto industry. Housing and the economy were booming in Michigan in the Engler years, but I doubt casinos have any effect on the downturn.

31 posted on 09/18/2008 12:21:35 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: Moleman
Welcome to Michigan!

Where state Democrats have made
unemployment a career choice.

32 posted on 09/18/2008 12:22:30 PM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: Madeleine Ward
Not all are hopeless. I have family there and they COULD NOT BELIEVE that Granholm got re-elected. Cut off Detroit and you would have a fine state.
33 posted on 09/18/2008 12:23:09 PM PDT by BBell
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To: vaudine

You need to understand: Detroit is the dem base, not the rest of Michigan—I just wish Detroit went with Canada!


34 posted on 09/18/2008 12:29:03 PM PDT by truthingod
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To: johniegrad

there is a house i have been waiting 15 years to go up for sale....it is up for sale and i cannot even think about buying it....i could never sell my current house, there are no buyers out there


35 posted on 09/18/2008 12:30:05 PM PDT by joe fonebone (The Second Amendment is the Constitutions reset button)
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To: Azzurri

As I hear it, there has been talk of providing loans to the same auto industry for re-tooling. Is this really the answer? The problem with the auto industry is a union problem—too many. The unions negotiate what works for them, and generous motors continues to take care of themselves at the expense of the rest of the workers in Michigan. It is hard to understand how someone can work in a somewhat unskilled labor position and make $30+ dollars per hour and then have the cadillac of health insurance/retirement benefits to boot! Delphi and American-Axle workers are losing jobs now, and if they get to keep a job they are working for less than $20/hr. I think Michigan does have to diversify, but if loans are coming to Detroit then I don’t see a diversified approach coming in jobs. They will still need a manufacturing base to promote a re-tooled product.


36 posted on 09/18/2008 12:34:22 PM PDT by truthingod
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To: Rodm

Well done Michigans! Pls keep voting for the RATS!


37 posted on 09/18/2008 12:34:37 PM PDT by FreeFromLiberalizm
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To: Mikey_1962

38 posted on 09/18/2008 12:37:25 PM PDT by musicman (Sarah Palin Runs A STATE - Barack Obama Runs His MOUTH)
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To: truthingod

Thanks!!


39 posted on 09/18/2008 12:39:18 PM PDT by musicman (Sarah Palin Runs A STATE - Barack Obama Runs His MOUTH)
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To: All

The #1 reason Michigan is in the shape its in is due to Free Trade. Bad trade deals always affect our industrial base, first.

Michigan’s problems would be allieviated by going back to market-based trade...and emphasizing American products over foreign products

The high taxes dont help...but when you re-distribute wealth overseas....those still left with money in Michigan (and elsewhere) are going to pay more in taxes just to keep basic givt functions going.


40 posted on 09/18/2008 12:44:45 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (What do you call someone who wants Free Trade w. Communist China? A COMMUNIST)
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To: MaryFromMichigan
Under the circumstances which exist in Michigan, how is it POSSIBLE for Democrats to keep winning statewide office?

They are killing your state and starving your people.

WHAT IS WRONG OUT THERE?

41 posted on 09/18/2008 12:46:20 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When He rolls up His sleeves, He ain't just puttin' on the Ritz)
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To: joe fonebone
Hello all!

First, let me say that I do live in Michigan. And, in Ann Arbor (Go Blue!).

Second, I moved here (from CO) with my family 2 years ago so our children could be with family more frequently. My wife and I were tired of living in airports.

And, I am not originally from here. I hail from New York and Connecticut (Go Yanks!).

So, what do I think of the last 2 years being here....

Honestly, naturally, this state is BEAUTIFUL. Four seasons, tons of fresh water, lots of game to hunt, just incredible !!

However, this state is SHELL SHOCKED! Fear reigns supreme. Hopelessness is fused in the psyche of these citizens. Most of Detroit is the closest thing to Mordor I have seen in a while.

It is madness : voting for the same people and policies over and over and expecting a different result ....

Politicians have one weapon here : despair. All the "good" people run away because they believe they cannot make a change. Sometimes, I feel this weight all too often.

Any other Michiganders here want to stop beating themselves down and start fighting?! Kilkpatrick is gone and this the BEST chance in a long time to fix the heart of this state -- Detroit.

It breaks my heart to know how beautiful this state is, and what a rich history Detroit has (350+ years!)and yet, how 'cowardly' the citizens seem to be when it comes to calling people to the carpet for what they've done.

I'm not cowardly; I'm just not sure where to start the turn around.

42 posted on 09/18/2008 12:53:44 PM PDT by Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey ("I have an open mind ... just not so open that my brain falls out onto the floor!!")
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To: Jim Noble

Population distribution. If you look at the last two presidential races, most of Michigan votes republican. It is areas like: Muskegon county, Kalamazoo(city), Grand Rapdis(city), Battle Creek(city), and almost all of southeastern Michigan(counties like Wayne, Monroe, Oakland) that are voting dem. The upper peninsula does not appear to vote democratic either. Now, it comes down to who is left. The normal working crowd has moved out. We may be left with UAW people and retirees(who vote dem). Then we are left with those who are unemployed and have not moved(those with no gumption)—these typically vote dem to preserve their unemployment checks. Once you get west of Lansing, you find a different crowd of people in the counties outside of city limits. These are the ones voting republican. It really comes down to getting the vote out for McCain/Palin—who will drive you to the poll?


43 posted on 09/18/2008 12:53:53 PM PDT by truthingod
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To: MaryFromMichigan

As far as I am concerned, MI’s problems are the fault of the Democrats. Elect Obama and when he goes to pay off his left-wing supporters, it will just cement in place the dysfunctional, politically correct, high tax, public union sytem - and speed the decline even further. Just like us in Upstate NY.


44 posted on 09/18/2008 12:55:07 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Moleman
Detroit elected her

That's a pretty neat trick. The population of Detroit has been falling for sixty years. That population is now LESS THAN HALF the 1950 population.

1950 1,849,568
1960 1,670,144
1970 1,514,063
1980 1,203,368
1990 1,027,974
2000 951,270
2007* 916,952

Over that time period, the population of Michigan has risen from 6,371,766 (1950) to 9,938,444 (2000).

If you want to explain Granholm, Levin, and the amazingly stupid Stabenow, "Detroit" just won't git 'er done.

Detroit was 29% of the Michigan population in 1950, in 2000 it was 9% and is probably still falling.

Look somewhere else.

45 posted on 09/18/2008 12:56:42 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When He rolls up His sleeves, He ain't just puttin' on the Ritz)
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To: Azzurri
Hi Azzurri --

Casinos are great if out of state money comes in.

Michiganders betting in state only circulates money internally. There is no growth.

...kinda of like paying off a credit card with another credit card's transfer checks ... and then not being able to pay off the new credit card's balance either.

46 posted on 09/18/2008 12:58:02 PM PDT by Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey ("I have an open mind ... just not so open that my brain falls out onto the floor!!")
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To: Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey

We need to encourage leaders like: Bill Hardiman-state senator for Michigan, Peter Hoekstra, Candice Miller and others willing to take a stand for what is right. The problem we have in Michigan is the same one the country has right now: a liberal media that shows and speaks what they want. I am so tired of watching the local affiliates do the same thing as the national chains. They puke out the same junk. They limit exposure by good republican candidates and blather all over the libs. We can write all we want to, it can help, but truth is: Levin and Stabenow have been useless and they really don’t represent Michigan. They only represent their party in Washington.
I believe this election will be won in the lunch rooms, in the schools, in the homes, door to door and mouth to mouth.


47 posted on 09/18/2008 12:59:14 PM PDT by truthingod
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To: truthingod
Thanks Truth In God --

Just imagine if Reagan had the Internet!

With all the technology of going around the papers, radio and TV, the people you mentioned should set up website site with live webcams and pre-made videos, and direct the people (in the lunchrooms, schools, etc.) there.

I also have to believe there is something I'm missing, either corruption or serious intimidation (physical harm, financial ruin, etc.), which keeps things in Michigan this dire.

I don't buy the total apathy argument.

48 posted on 09/18/2008 1:06:15 PM PDT by Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey ("I have an open mind ... just not so open that my brain falls out onto the floor!!")
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To: Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey

We don’t either! There are lots of people in Michigan who are not giving up or giving in. I have talked with people and told them to hold tight, get your house in order and soon enough, when the dust settles, people like us will be in a position to truly influence every kind of change that Michigan needs. That is the “change” message that McCain/Palin can promote for Michigan.


49 posted on 09/18/2008 1:10:39 PM PDT by truthingod
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To: Jim Noble
Hi Jim --

Your numbers make a strong argument that it can't be just Detroit.

Then, why do we get such crappy leaders?!?! This isn't even a "D vs. R" thing anymore. This is just out-and-out incompetence.

Maybe in another 2 years of living here, I'll figure it out.

Lord Jesus Christ. Have mercy on me. A sinner!

50 posted on 09/18/2008 1:12:07 PM PDT by Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey ("I have an open mind ... just not so open that my brain falls out onto the floor!!")
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