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Obama 101
NRO ^ | September 19, 2008 | Amir Taheri

Posted on 09/19/2008 5:19:39 AM PDT by nikos1121

On Monday, in an opinion piece published in the New York Post, I suggested that Senator Barack Obama had urged Iraqi leaders to postpone making an agreement with the United States until there was a new administration in Washington.

I said this because Obama himself had said it.

By trying to second-guess the present administration in its negotiations with Iraq, Obama ignored a golden rule of American politics.

I first learned about that rule from Senator Edward Kennedy more than 30 years ago. During a visit to Tehran, Kennedy received a few Iranian reporters for a poolside chat. The big question at the time was negotiations between Washington and Tehran about massive arms contracts. When we asked Kennedy what he thought of those negotiations, his answer was simple: He would not comment on negotiations between his government and a foreign power, especially when abroad. That, he said, was one of the golden rules of American politics.

A few years later, I spent a day with Ronald Reagan during his visit to Iran. I asked what he thought of the strategic arms limitation talks between the U.S. and the USSR. He echoed Kennedy’s golden rule: He would not comment on his government’s negotiations with a foreign power, especially when abroad.

Today, Senator Obama is the leader of a loyal opposition in the United States, not the chief of an insurrection or a revolutionary uprising. What we are witnessing in the U.S. is an election, not an insurrection or a coronation, even less a regime change.

(Excerpt) Read more at article.nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; amirtaheri; biden; foreignpolicy; iraq; obama; obamabiden; obamasbigadventure; taheri; tedkennedy
Amir Taheri has opened up an important window the inner world of Obama. The man sees our country obviously as an intruder in the world. He doesn't follow "the golden rule" as Taheri speaks of here.

He ends this fine article with these questions. Will no one ask Obama these questions? Whu not?

Since I do not wish to become involved in an Alphonse-and-Gaston number with Obama, I suggest that we focus our attention on the fact that the nominee is left without anything resembling a policy on Iraq. So, rather than coming out with another denial of something I never said that he had done, the esteemed senator should ponder these questions:

Does he still believe that toppling Saddam Hussein was illegal and “the biggest strategic blunder in U.S. history”? If yes, we might wonder why he is prepared to deal with the new Iraqi leaders who, by definition, have usurped Hussein’s power in Baghdad with American support.

Does he still want to withdraw from Iraq or does he want to stay, doing a bit of “drawdown” and “redeployment” every now and then? And, if he wants to stay, on what basis, for what purpose, and for how long?

Is Senator Biden’s plan to carve Iraq into three separate states still a live option or has it been thrown into the dustbin where it should have been from the start?

Would Obama now support the conclusion of a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) and a Strategic Framework Agreement (SFA) through negotiations between the Bush administration and the Iraqi administration of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, also a “lame duck,” as it faces elections early next year?

Since I do not wish to become involved in an Alphonse-and-Gaston number with Obama, I suggest that we focus our attention on the fact that the nominee is left without anything resembling a policy on Iraq. So, rather than coming out with another denial of something I never said that he had done, the esteemed senator should ponder these questions:

Does he still believe that toppling Saddam Hussein was illegal and “the biggest strategic blunder in U.S. history”? If yes, we might wonder why he is prepared to deal with the new Iraqi leaders who, by definition, have usurped Hussein’s power in Baghdad with American support.

Does he still want to withdraw from Iraq or does he want to stay, doing a bit of “drawdown” and “redeployment” every now and then? And, if he wants to stay, on what basis, for what purpose, and for how long?

Is Senator Biden’s plan to carve Iraq into three separate states still a live option or has it been thrown into the dustbin where it should have been from the start?

Would Obama now support the conclusion of a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) and a Strategic Framework Agreement (SFA) through negotiations between the Bush administration and the Iraqi administration of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, also a “lame duck,” as it faces elections early next year?

1 posted on 09/19/2008 5:19:39 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

Somebody please tell me this issue is gaining traction in the mainstream, even just a little rubber on the road?

Taheri’s argument and supplementary material in this article is so very cogent and stinging. Even if one wishes to ascribe dubious motives to its author, this type of clear cut thinking is striking. Truth has no bias.

This issue really does seem like a game changer, yet I do not hear anything about it other than FR and NRO. Please, please, please tell me I’m missing something...


2 posted on 09/19/2008 5:27:25 AM PDT by Per-Ling
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To: Per-Ling
If we lived in a rational universe, this would be final proof-positive that Obama is not fit to be president of anything, let alone our nation.

Since we obviously live in upside-down bizzaro world now; the press will do nothing, and no one will care.

3 posted on 09/19/2008 5:29:38 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: nikos1121; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; ...
Re: A few years later, I spent a day with Ronald Reagan during his visit to Iran.

As much as I believe nObama is a disaster waiting to happen and he is not above violating the Logan Act in Iraq and elsewhere, I was not aware that Ronald Reagan ever visited Iran. Could some enlighten me with a source?


4 posted on 09/19/2008 5:33:05 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: nikos1121

I would love to know why the McCain campaign is not going after this story like a hungry dog on a steak...


5 posted on 09/19/2008 5:33:21 AM PDT by JenB987
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To: nikos1121

This incident is interesting. I came across these quotes posted a month ago on youtube. I’m not endorsing them nor do I necessarily believe them.
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Amir Taheri is the same guy who claimed Irans parliament had passed sumptuary laws for religious minorities, which ended up being fake. Not only did the law not exist but it wasnt even discussed in Parliament as the associated press showed. The National Post had to retracted the story and apologize for not checking to see if the story was true.

Taheri on the other hand still maintains that the law was passed, which shows his poor journalistic skills.


San Francisco state university also documented faked stories that Taheri authored to make himself appear like he had inside knowledge.

Historian Shaul Bakhash of George Mason University has accused Amir Taheri of concocting nonexistent conpiracies in his writings and “repeatedly refers us to books where the information he cites simply does not exist. Often the documents cannot be found in the volumes to which he attributes them.... “
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I think there is a lot of rhetoric thrown out during the election time that needs scrutiny before its pushed forward as fact. Again, no BHO fan here.


6 posted on 09/19/2008 5:35:35 AM PDT by Doug TX
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To: nikos1121
Senator Obama is the leader of a loyal opposition in the United States

I do not believe he is 'loyal' to the constitution of the United States. Most of the democrats fall into this same camp.

7 posted on 09/19/2008 5:36:24 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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To: nikos1121

Mc Cain should bring this up in the Foreign Policy debate next Friday.


8 posted on 09/19/2008 5:37:20 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Doug TX

Like I said, even if he is dubious...

All he is doing is drawing attention to words uttered by The One himself. He’s merely taking a large highlighting pen and screaming to us “did ya’ll see this several months ago?!”


9 posted on 09/19/2008 5:40:42 AM PDT by Per-Ling
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To: nikos1121

This shows why you don’t put a rookie with 145 days of experience in a position that would allow him to run the most powerful nation on earth.


10 posted on 09/19/2008 5:47:14 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: FatherofFive

Many democrats feel the same way. That he is loyal to himself first and the rest later. Why would anyone have the audacity to go to Berlin and speak to people there, no less about how bad our country is...? Who would do such a thing unless someone who is so full of himself.

Obama is putting it as plain as it can be put, is a product of a guy named Axelrod. He’s a persona. Nothing more nothing less. I think this is going to be a land slide for McCain.


11 posted on 09/19/2008 5:59:52 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Mr. Smith is coming back to Washington in the name of Sarah Palin.)
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To: Per-Ling

“even just a little rubber on the road”????

Sorry, the only thing I see is oil as the lsm slides right over it.


12 posted on 09/19/2008 6:00:29 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Per-Ling

This is why I posted it... for the reasons you give. I think it should be reposted throughout today. Perhaps someone else can do it...

These are questions that should be asked to Obama at the first debate.


13 posted on 09/19/2008 6:01:37 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Mr. Smith is coming back to Washington in the name of Sarah Palin.)
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To: Per-Ling; nikos1121; All
Amir Taheri's appearance Thursday morning on Fox & Friends:



Foreign Affair
Is Barack Obama trying to stall the success of the surge in Iraq?

14 posted on 09/19/2008 6:06:53 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Doug TX

I read Taheri frequently. I find him accurate and with insight.

If you read THE ARTICLE THAT I POSTED you will see that he specifically states that these are factual statements made by others and he documents them.

I’m not sure why you posted criticsms of the man instead of commenting on the criticsms of Obama.

You list San Francisco State U. and The National Post> I thought he wrote for the The Daily Post.


15 posted on 09/19/2008 6:07:01 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Mr. Smith is coming back to Washington in the name of Sarah Palin.)
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To: econjack

This shows why you don’t put a rookie with 145 days of experience in a position that would allow him to RUIN the most powerful nation on earth.

Fixed it for you!


16 posted on 09/19/2008 6:09:22 AM PDT by MichiganCheese (Stop saying the media is biased; THEY ARE PARTISAN!)
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To: Per-Ling

It made the front page of my local paper this morning.


17 posted on 09/19/2008 6:17:19 AM PDT by Excellence (Why do scoundrels like Ayers gravitate to public education when Plan A fails?)
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To: nikos1121

"Don't Be Dissin' My Baby's Daddy!"

18 posted on 09/19/2008 7:17:44 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: JenB987

Saving this for the debate format...gonna hit him with it then...


19 posted on 09/19/2008 7:21:09 AM PDT by Froggie
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To: Doug TX

The Obama camp admitted he said this and gave the reasons:

There were more people in the room and the press in Iraq were picking up on it. If you read the other threads on this, you would see where this has been confirmed.


20 posted on 09/19/2008 7:26:39 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: Bender2

NObama is an avowed marxist, what do you expect!


21 posted on 09/19/2008 8:36:09 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Red Boots
"If we lived in a rational universe, this would be final proof-positive that Obama is not fit to be president of anything, let alone our nation."

So true. If this gets enough traction on talk radio and online (now NRO, not just the NYPost), then Fox (Hannity/Colmes) really can't ignore it. If McCain makes ads about this, even CNNABCNBCCBS will be forced to cover that.

22 posted on 09/19/2008 10:17:06 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: nikos1121

He went because he wanted the public to view that speech as a defining moment in his political career, while at the same time he wanted to invoke the memory of Kennedy and his speech in Berlin.

He is so shallow that in his mind “young, President Kennedy and Berlin” = “young, President Obama and Berlin”.

Remember, he has said Caroline Kennedy would be his Ambassador to Britain, just like her grandfather Joe Kennedy was.

It is all image over substance with Obama and his campaign.

I firmly believe they do these types of shenanigans because the uneducated or ill informed will latch on to the imagery and see him as being presidential. They don’t listen to what he says or ask questions about what he believes. They just sit back in awe of him.


23 posted on 09/19/2008 10:09:47 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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24 posted on 09/19/2008 10:21:24 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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25 posted on 09/19/2008 11:25:29 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Obama, WHO is Bill Ayers and WHY are you still friends with him? Please RSVP asap!)
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To: JenB987

I would love to know why the McCain campaign is not going after this story like a hungry dog on a steak...

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The only reason I can think of is is that Obama denied it and there is no “smoking gun”, the Iraqi leader needs to come out forcefully and make Obama call him a liar. The press would HAVE to cover that.


26 posted on 09/19/2008 11:32:11 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: nikos1121

If this is true, it shows that Obama is a real loose Cannon on the deck of American Politics. His ego when viewed as above conventions of diplomacy can start wars when the communication between party breaks down. There is a place for Maverick, but not in diplomacy.


27 posted on 09/20/2008 1:43:05 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

I know there are some educated people buying this but in my world, no one is buying this.

I CAN ONLY SAY THIS: IF THIS COUNTRY ELECTS THIS MAN, THEN SOMETHING, SOMETHING DEATHLY WRONG IN THIS COUNTRY...AND IT’S TIME TO THINK TWICE ABOUT WHAT YOU PLAN ON DOING WHEN YOU RETIRE...

This is not stupid thinking...I never thought I would have to worry about my future living in this country, but the president of the USA leads the world.

Obama will send us down a different path. Many thought at first, that maybe this guy is different and what he proposes is different.

But all now know, that he is no different and in many ways is worse. He’s a product of the Chicago machine politics and it shows.


28 posted on 09/20/2008 4:25:49 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Mr. Smith is coming back to Washington in the name of Sarah Palin.)
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To: American in Israel

You know the title of this article finally really hit me.


29 posted on 09/20/2008 4:26:17 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Mr. Smith is coming back to Washington in the name of Sarah Palin.)
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To: nikos1121

There is something deadly wrong in this country.

People used to whisper about conspiracies and the New World Order.

But, I sometimes wonder if there is a big movement underfoot in America that has signaled this big shift in thinking.

When I listen to Obama and watch the cheering crowds I just don’t get it. And the cult-like following he has chills my bones.

If he wins, America will never recover.

And I totally relate to your worrying about your future. I am just as worried. I have two young children and I am fearful for their sake. They will never understand what America was.

This will be the beginning of the end.


30 posted on 09/20/2008 3:20:01 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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