Skip to comments.Hackers to Attack Bill O'Reilly? (and Fox News)
Posted on 09/19/2008 1:28:47 PM PDT by kristinn
We hear on the internet underground that hackers and/or script-kiddies have declared an internet war against Fox News and columnist Bill O'Reilly and plan a cyber-assault for later today. Reportedly, parts of O'Reilly's site have already been compromised. This is serious business, no doubt.
To get to the bottom of the issue, we spoke to an insider, a frequent poster on a certain well known online support group for young-adult agoraphobics where these things are planned and executed. He prefers to remain anonymous.
(We starred-out the names of internet sites because, apparently, they don't like to be noticed.)
G4: What are the plans for the attack on Bill OReilly/ Fox News?
Anonymous Guy: As far as I know, all that was planned was DDoS attacks against Bill's site and/or Fox News's site at around 5 PM today Eastern Standard Time. This information was posted publicly on many threads over the past few days, so it's not like this was a widely kept secret. As of right now it looks like some people may have started doing DDoS attacks already though, so either that time got bumped, or people are just posting others' IPs on 4*** in hopes /*/ will attack other people.
Other than the fact that OReilly is an insufferable blowhard, why is he a target?
Simple. When the email got hacked and then passed along to 4***, it then made its way to Gawker who posted the screenshots passed around on /*/ The secret service and/or FBI then asked Gawker to take down the pics, and they refused. Later on, Bill O Reilly talked about it, and this is what he said:
In this segment he calls a site he won't name "despicable, slimy, scummy" and even though it's obvious he's referring to Gawker, ***s tards assumed he was talking about them. The mods of 4**changing the title of that section of the site to "Despicable, slimy, scummy" didn't help. So they decided to get some laughs by getting some revenge on him. But mainly just because he's annoying. Here's the video they've passed around a lot lately of him:
You Tube link.
He's acting like he's the one who is bringing the hacker to justice even though he has nothing to do with it. And this video is just like everyone of his other videos -- he invites a guest or expert on the show, and then talks over them the whole time and disagrees with them until the time is up. Insufferable blowhard indeed.
Anything to do with his politics, do you think?
People have suggested that this hacking incident was all staged by Republicans, so that they can further portray Palin as a huge victim, and further bash Democrats. That seems like a ridiculous suggestion to me, but when you then consider Palin's public email was already in question by the law, with laws prohibiting her from using it for business or deleting any emails either, then it does hold some merit -- after this incident her entire email was deleted, thus destroying whatever incriminating evidence might have existed in it. I doubt it's true at all, but it's definitely a clever trick I can see crooked politicians using in the future. Say 4*** hacked something of yours, and then destroy all of the evidence.
This, and the Palin hack, are much higher profile than hacking some goth kids livejournal. Is there any sense of fear that The Man is going to show up and haul people off to pound-me-in-the-ass jail?
Absolutely -- there was an article the other day on TheRegister where the owner of the proxy site Ctunnel came out publicly saying that he could find the person who hacked the account. Whoever did so forgot to black out their URL in the screenshot (which seems fishy to me...), so the code used in the URL should be easy to pinpoint in his site's archives. Basically, the hacker's screwed if the FBI take the proxy admin up on his offer, which I'm sure they will.
Do these hackers care about the fact that these kind of exploits could eventually destroy their own playground? IE: Once the feds get involved, theyll pretty much shut things down if they want to.
Watch the second youtube clip linked above. No -- the law states that 4*** shouldn't be held accountable for this incident at all. But I doubt that's what is stopping /*/. It's common knowledge that you can't fight the Internet. Go ahead and shut down 4***, its users won't care, they'll find another online community to move on to. Go ahead and shut down ThePirateBay, there will be 100s of new torrent sites within a week. I feel bad for moot though, his life has to be hectic.
I know these computer guys doesnt like people naming the site they came from, but am I going to piss off an internet if I refer to it as an online support group for young-adult agoraphobics?
Well I'm hardly an "oldfag", but I think I know enough to know that statement isn't true -- at least it didn't used to be true. 4*** got its fame from not taking s*** from anyone, and by being able to talk about anything. The result used to be a lot of images and discussions that most people couldn't stomach. In recent years though, after the rise of the Scientology protests that became linked to 4***, the site saw a lot of newcomers that changed what 4*** was all about. People arrived at 4*** like misinformed immigrants expecting one thing, and got another. Rather than leaving though, they stuck around since /*/ was so loose and carefree, and in the process became what /*/tards like to call "the cancer that is killing /*/" But are most of the "newfags" young-adult agoraphobics? Yup.
How can an average citizen protect him or herself from the internets hackers that want to hack their emailz? Should I buy a dog?
Don't be an idiot like Sarah Palin was. She was a huge political figure, and yet she used a public email account despite being told not to. By not using a government email she allowed herself to be hacked by someone answering three simple questions: What is her birthday? What is her zip code? Where did she meet her husband? That's insanely easy to figure out in an hour online, and I'm surprised it took /b/ so long to hack her. I'm still surprised people haven't hacked into her daughters' Myspace account yet.
As for the normal person, just make sure all of your different accounts on computers and sites have different passwords. Don't let yourself get hacked in one place and watch as you become the Titanic as each one of your account walls crumble.
This is going to end badly, dont you think?
I don't know, I'm surprised that Palin's email being hacked didn't get more TV time -- aside from Bob O RLY I haven't even seen it in the news yet. And that's crazy. Aside from what side of the political fence you are on, her getting hacked in such a manner shows how immensely unprepared she is to be in the white house. I truly hope it gets more news time.
As for this news about Bob's site being hacked -- it had better get a lot of TV time. It's not fair to his site's users and clients to not know they've been hacked. It's not good enough to simply tell them their account info has been compromised either. Today I saw screenshots of 100s of peoples' personal info in the hands of people who would love to hack into their accounts on other sites using the same login passwords. Shame on Bill O Reilly and Fox News for having such a weak site security system, they are just as much to blame as the hackers on this one. Their customers should be furious.
These people are fascists. Anyone that doesn’t agree with them is a target.
DDoS stands for Distributed Denial of Service.
Denial of Service occurs when you flood a system with so many requests that it’s interfaces to the Internet can’t handle the traffic.
This, in effect, makes it unavailable.
DDos is when a group of systems coordinate their attacks upon a particular targeted system.
It’s not a method that requires a great deal of skill.
Is this an outfit out of texas?
Let me get this straight - because some state Democrat’s bratty grown son hacked into an email account illegally it’s okay since he didn’t have to go to that much trouble, and Bill O’Reilly only criticized the criminal because the email account happened to belong to a Republican political figure, and now he’s a target himself because of doing so?
should have been “its interfaces”
Anything to do with his politics, do you think?
People have suggested that this hacking incident was all staged by Republicans, so that they can further portray Palin as a huge victim, and further bash Democrats. That seems like a ridiculous suggestion to me, but...
< /BARF >
Yes, well, all you need is for the little scamp who hacked Palin’s email to be actually sent to “pound-me-in-the-ass jail” and others like him to put a serious dent in the enthusiasm of these naughty kittens for their little pranks.
“Don’t be an idiot like Sarah Palin was. She was a huge political figure, and yet she used a public email account despite being told not to. “
Keep saying people are STOOPID to use Yahoo.com for mail and I want to see their stock nosedive.
4*** = 4chan
So why do websites not structure their entry pages differently? For instance if one is not a member or has not already logged in as a member they go to one page and the members another. If hits one this one page of non members gets to be problem put it on another server.
They stared out 4chan and the /b/ tards? We’ll never figure it out.
4chan has very shaky funding, he runs out of cash and goes dark from time to time.
I wonder why those from what BOR describes as “right-wing smear sites” never try to hack his email. I think he owes them an apology. (crickets)
When Free Republic was going down over and over again some of the freepers were posting on Yahoo FR that we were under DOS attacks.
As I understand it, you suggest that ‘thousands’ go to a certain site at certain times and it overwhelms the server??
I am not a guru, lol.
Which one of these punks is Beavis and which is Butthead?
We used to do pranks when I was a kid. We were stupid and we would have deserved to get whupped, but we never got caught. The worst thing we did was late one night we crawled under the cover of a neighbor’s boat and reversed the steering cable going back to the outboard.
What these jerks are doing is far worse, because they are shutting down a business, or at least part of a business.
No, you commandeer zombie PCs under control of various worms/trojan horses and order them to ping a particular site to death.
Basically the server is bombarded with worthless data requests, crowding out legitimate site requests.
And its not that hard to do.
This isn’t necessarily software, this can also be hardware, or a combination of both.
However there’s almost alway a hardware aspect to a DoS or DDoS attack, as it has to do with the speed and capacity of the connection between what is called the system’s Network Interface (Ethernet, Fiber Optic, etc) and the outside world.
Secondarily, in a Web context, it has to do with how fast the webserver software on a system can serve up Web pages.
This can be a bottleneck because of CPU capacity/speed, memory, system tuning, or a number of other factors.
If it is bombarded, then the out to be able to see the IP addresses that are the source of it.
You have the right idea, but let me clarify further:
The use of the terms DoS and DDoS make an explicit connotation that it’s a deliberate attack on a system, as opposed to a website just getting too popular for its britches.
Cyberterrorists. Time to send the punks to fed prison (about the only chance they have of getting laid, anyhow).
BOR website came up just fine and dandy
There’s no point - can be thousands of addresses, all owned by people who have no clue whats going on because their systems are compromised. Their only hint is the PC is slower than usual.
I’m on the Ping of Death honor roll. (Ancient history)
This didn’t involve hacking- it involved investigation of a vulnerability where a malformed PING request could make a server crash.
This went across operating system lines.
There are several fairly effective countermeasures vs a standard DDoS attack (yes, I’ve worked on some, no, I’m not going to discuss them). And I mean beyond just IP blocking (which does work OK against VERY basic DDoS attacks, but can also block legit users, esp. if their computers have been zombied unbeknownst to them).
That said, a sophisticated DDoS attack can be a real pain in the @zz to handle. My bet is this will be the former, not the later.
Speaking of sneaky stuff like that, remember the early days of Windows 95 when you could crash anyone with a unique TCP packet? (winnuke)
I see nothing gets by you.
For some reason, your post made me think of the prison scene in “My Cousin Vinny” where Vinny first meets his cousin’s friend in the jail cell.
I’ve worked in mission-critical computing for almost 20 years so I have some small familiarity with that of which you speak.
And I thank God daily that I don’t admin Windows systems.
Don’t remember that particular one, but I do remember having to go out and get Trumpet Winsock because Windows didn’t have a TCP/IP stack built in in those days...
Thank you both for your replies, it gives me a better idea of what’s happening.
I don’t think I’ve seen that film since not long after it was released. Pesci was great (as always).
LOL... I’m going to use that. I’m still laughing!
Yes, the left mustn’t even allow ONE conservative point of view.
This is the biggest cultural clash in my lifetime, the left and it’s minions against freedom and survival.
It’s very depressing. The left is sneaking into every aspect of American life. They’re total intolerant fascists. They want to completely kill freedom and the country.
Just like the Arab countries that said 911 was staged by the Israelis. Do we see a pattern here?
I’ll plan on pretending to be an MSNBC “reporter”, to get in to visit them when they are in prison, “to tell their side of the story”, and then laugh in their zoo animal faces. >Bo)
Did anyone have any problems getting on FR this week? I had trouble three different nights at the same time frame (around 8p-8:45p CST hour)each night. No lie - it never would pull up. Later these same nights I could get on....finally. Could FR be targeted or could it just be me, the user? :)I have experienced high traffic and slow sign ons but this has been different. I had my husband try on his computer and he couldn’t either......
Not only that, but there are methods known as ‘smurf attacks’ that can be instigated by one person in one place, and use spoofed IP’s to generate DDoS attacks from servers all over the place:
So, it could technically be one, or a few hackers doing this if they’ve found some ISP’s who still haven’t closed these holes.
There are ways to close those holes and most ISP’s in the US have. But that doesn’t stop an attacker from using servers in China, Korea, etc, where these holes are usually still wide open.
‘Smurfing’ is a pretty old method, I’ve been privy to them for about 10 years since I worked at a Mom & Pop ISP back in the boom days. All it would take was for one of our customers (usually a kid) to P/O somebody else (usually another kid) on IRC or another chat room somewhere, and the next thing you know, we’re getting ‘smurf’ed’. It would take us hours to recover and it became a big problem until we got our upstream provider to start putting measures in place to mitigate the attacks.
Go ahead and crack into his yahoo account...his password is Luffa
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