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Racial Views Steer White Democrats Away From Obama
Yahell News ^ | 9/20/2008 | RON FOURNIER and TREVOR TOMPSON

Posted on 09/20/2008 5:52:08 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; blacks; blackvote; crackers; crime; democrats; electionpresident; hypocrisy; liars; mccainpalin; obama; obamabiden; racism; whiteguilt; whitevote; yellowdog
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Haha, we get to see the true feelings of the Democratic party. They never moved much from their roots.

And to note in this article, McCain and Bush HATE each other! They're not allies. They'll never be allies. 2000 took care of that.

1 posted on 09/20/2008 5:52:08 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative
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To: TypeZoNegative
..someone has to ask Obambi why he wants to give health insurance to illegals
2 posted on 09/20/2008 5:54:30 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

I hope McCain strikes this with Obammah.


3 posted on 09/20/2008 5:56:04 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (" ." - Barack Obama.)
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To: TypeZoNegative
Please explain to me why this tripe,
originally posted here under an Associated Pukes link,
is sitting at the top of Breaking News ??

It's just one more lying turd to add to the ten thousand piles of steaming marxist media bullshite that's already been spewed the past year.

sigh

4 posted on 09/20/2008 5:59:36 AM PDT by tomkat (support American craftsmanship)
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To: TypeZoNegative
...responsible for their own troubles

The debil made me do it!
5 posted on 09/20/2008 6:01:59 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: TypeZoNegative

You are right about trying to tie Bush to McCain — they do HATE each other and the more I learn the more I become on the side of McCain — what was done to him in 2000 was terrible and Rove should be ashamed. I am ashamed I swallowed the Rove koolaid in 2000 and attacked McCain using facts that were presented which turned out to be not exactly factual to be kind.

Now to my favorite part of the article which stated lots of Republicans are not voting against Obama because of his race but because we won’t vote for any Democrat for President — white, black, brown. That sums it up perfectly and why calling Republicans that won’t vote for Obama racists is so stupid and ignorant!


6 posted on 09/20/2008 6:02:36 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: TypeZoNegative

Title correction...
Radical views steer voters away from Obama


7 posted on 09/20/2008 6:03:03 AM PDT by kalee
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To: TypeZoNegative
...one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent," responsible for their own troubles.”

I bet Hillary would add... “undependable”.

8 posted on 09/20/2008 6:03:42 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: tomkat

Well, according to the Governor of Kansas, racist Republicans are the only ones who aren’t voting for 0bama. And she’s really smart (according to a couple Democrat reporters).


9 posted on 09/20/2008 6:03:48 AM PDT by Kanzan
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To: TypeZoNegative

barry’s RACISM steers WHITES dims from zero.

LLS


10 posted on 09/20/2008 6:04:02 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: TypeZoNegative

The Democrats and their allies in the media smell defeat, and in desperation are turning to the race card to explain their loss. Race will replace “Swiftboating” and Florida as an excuse for defeat.


11 posted on 09/20/2008 6:04:47 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: TypeZoNegative
They never moved much from their roots.

Live in our big cities or in the burbs where these people now live after fleeing the city as the majority of these white democrats do and maybe you will see why

When you have seen your former neighborhoods turned to trash and become crime ridden it has an effect on how you view those that did the trashing

What gets me is why the still vote for the democrats who abet and even cause this problem

These same individuals also hate PC , quotas etc but still stay with the party that institutes them out of knee jerk habits ( my family has always been democrat types )--BUT Obama is too much on the knees for many
12 posted on 09/20/2008 6:05:01 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: TypeZoNegative

Don’t like saying it, but this poll has some value for undedcided Dems.

Lots of Dems are going to see that lots of Dems are not voting for Barry. That may give many the ok to join that group.


13 posted on 09/20/2008 6:10:45 AM PDT by ConservativeGreek
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To: TypeZoNegative

They are probably tired of being called racists.

Why would anyone vote for a guy who constantly plays the race card against them?


14 posted on 09/20/2008 6:12:10 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: TypeZoNegative

Nice spin by Fournier... The white Dem is the racist. Not Obama.

Search Wright = No Text Found. Search Trinity United = No Text Found. Search Bitter = No Text Found.

It’s Obama who sat in a racist church for 20 YEARS. Not the white Dems. But why bother with facts.


15 posted on 09/20/2008 6:13:19 AM PDT by nhwingut
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To: kalee

“Title correction...
Radical views steer voters away from Obama”

Your correction is right on. We must remember that the DEMS must lay the groundwork for the “country being too racist” to elect Obama to explain why he lost the election! The DEMS and the MSM will NEVER admit that Obama lost because of his plans for America to become a communist country!


16 posted on 09/20/2008 6:14:02 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: PhiKapMom
You are right about trying to tie Bush to McCain — they do HATE each other and the more I learn the more I become on the side of McCain — what was done to him in 2000 was terrible and Rove should be ashamed. I am ashamed I swallowed the Rove koolaid in 2000 and attacked McCain using facts that were presented which turned out to be not exactly factual to be kind.

Is this the black lovechild thing? I've never seen any evidence of that. What else did they do to McCain in 2000?
17 posted on 09/20/2008 6:15:22 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: TypeZoNegative

I have known this all my life. My very liberal parents are very racist.

You see blacks are inferior and they need caretakers. Whites have the obligation to be caretakers and therefore our government is obligated to act in place of the benevolent slave master.

The theory is we can elect a black person to lesser offices because this is no different than appointing someone as a sharecropper. But how can we elect someone inferior who needs a caretaker to be the master?


18 posted on 09/20/2008 6:16:06 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: TypeZoNegative

A lot of Democrats are not thrilled with Senator Obama because besides the inexperience factor, he’s too much tied to the Chicago political machine (which a lot of Democrats don’t like) and Obama’s friends that have a really sketchy past.


19 posted on 09/20/2008 6:17:21 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: PhiKapMom

On what do you base your belief that Rove was responsible or complicit, at least, in that?


20 posted on 09/20/2008 6:18:59 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: TypeZoNegative

Whites would be wise to not vote for Obama. He presented himself as the post-racial candidate, but has proven to be anything but. He is obsessed with race (he brings it up more then anyone), and the teachings of the church he attended for twenty plus years are alone reason enough to not vote for him.

Obama has the white guilt vote wrapped up, but it’s good to know that some white Dems. are able to extract themselves from that group psychosis and consider other factors.


21 posted on 09/20/2008 6:28:24 AM PDT by Will88
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To: TypeZoNegative
And racial views are steering some blacks toward Obama. But that's not racist.

Snort.

FWIW, the guy's a freaking socialist. I could give a rat's hairy hind end about his skin color. Or gender for that matter.

22 posted on 09/20/2008 6:32:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: 9YearLurker

Years of experience and having drank the koolaid only to find out in connecting the dots it was koolaid going way back with the same people. It has been an eye opener. Rove the architect almost cost two Presidential elections that should not have been close.

The more I researched after the 2006 election, the more things made sense. Rove royally undermined McCain with innuendoes that were taken as the truth.


23 posted on 09/20/2008 6:38:18 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: TypeZoNegative

Why do people give any credence to this drivel. Repeat after me, MSM, “Those who oppose Barak Obama do so because they reject his failed ideas and pitiful performance at every previous position.” The real racists in this campaign are those who put up the unqualified Obama. If he were a white male, would you even consider him? I don’t think so. Racism works both ways,you MSM fools.


24 posted on 09/20/2008 6:38:56 AM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: TypeZoNegative
Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent," responsible for their own troubles.

It's a "racial misgiving" to say that blacks, like all other grownups, are "responsible for their own troubles"?

25 posted on 09/20/2008 6:39:02 AM PDT by untenured
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To: PhiKapMom

I’m not saying you’re right or wrong, because I have no clue; but I wonder if there is any evidence you can point me to that ties Rove to the ‘black child’ innuendo.


26 posted on 09/20/2008 6:45:17 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Raycpa
I have known this all my life. My very liberal parents are very racist.

Same with my parents.

27 posted on 09/20/2008 6:45:47 AM PDT by muggs
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To: TypeZoNegative

99% of black Democrats are racist.

33% of white Democrats are racist.

Interesting that Republicans are labled the racist party. hmmm.


28 posted on 09/20/2008 6:46:11 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: Kanzan

When Obambi was up by 12% we weren’t racists. Two months later we’re racist. Soooo...it took us two months to figure out the O is black?


29 posted on 09/20/2008 6:46:16 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: TypeZoNegative

Obama’s OWN racist views should cost him the election.


30 posted on 09/20/2008 6:48:57 AM PDT by bannie
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To: TypeZoNegative

RON FOURNIER, another MSM liberal hack who hates Reps. He tried to ambush Romney. Now he is trying to shame white democrats into voting for Obama by laying a guilt trip on them and calling them racists.


31 posted on 09/20/2008 6:50:00 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: TypeZoNegative
My wife is French Caribbean of very mixed blood lines (Italian, French, German, African). Our children are range Vin Diesel, Mariah Carey types.

I can tell you without hesitation that the more liberal a person is the more likely he is to comment on our 'mixed' family. The more conservative, the less likely. In fact no conservative has ever made any comment at all while virtually every liberal has felt the need to say something.

32 posted on 09/20/2008 6:55:08 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: TypeZoNegative

This article says some things about how whites see blacks that, I think, is very accurate.

In most cases, negative feelings towards blacks has little to do with skin color and a lot MORE to do with attitude and behavior.

One of the things that turns me off with blacks is the way they cop this “Ghetto Attitude” when around whites. This is done to intimidate whites, and it does. And they know it does. This kind of behavior can be turned on and off at will and I have personally seen this.

Suppose you’re a white guy who uses a fair amount of locker room language. But you also have the need to associate with others on a frequent basis, say, for business, where this kind of language would be considered totally unacceptable. You have the ability to turn it off.

Suppose you get into a heated argument with someone you’re attemtpting to do business with. At some point you will likely revert back to your regular speech patterns and the explitives are likely to fly. It’s a matter of losing a little bit of control.

Before Obama started taking hits to the chin from Palin, you saw the “good behavior” side of the guy. Now that he’s been injured, we’re beginning to see the real man and its turning off those even in his own party. His call this week to have his minions get into the faces of their neighbors and “aggressively argue” on his behalf, is nothing more than an intimidation ploy of a desparate, inner-city agitator, using naive youngsters to do his dirty work.

I have no doubt this will work to some extent with the younger crowd because they tend to be gullible. They don’t know the details of the man but are buying into the emotion. But with older folks who ARE studying the details, we are being given just one more reason to say NO to this political hack.

Look at Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jesse Jackson’s son, and Callipso Louie. They all use an intimidation approach designed to fan the flames of their base and intimidate eveyone else. What they don’t understand is that they are actually doing the greatest amount of harm to themselves.

I can’t believe how amazingly STUPID Obama is! And, of course, when he gets his ass handed to him on a platter in November he will blame all of it on racism, as will the MSM who are already making these claims. What a load of Freakin’ CRAP!

Would Collin Powell have attempted such insulting tactics?

Apparently, you can take the inner-city agitator out of the Ghetto but you can’t take the Ghetto out of the inner-city agitator.

Does all of the above make me a racist? Fine. Sue me.


33 posted on 09/20/2008 7:01:18 AM PDT by IL1949
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

They probably feel that they are the next to be thrown under Barry’s Bus!


34 posted on 09/20/2008 7:06:07 AM PDT by RatsDawg (I love Palin :))
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To: TypeZoNegative

Watch for articles in the coming days regarding whether ballots really are “secret”. They will try to scare dems, especially union members, into thinking their union will know how they voted.


35 posted on 09/20/2008 7:08:50 AM PDT by Crawdad (Joe Biden- the Fredo Corleone of the Democrat Party)
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To: TypeZoNegative

But there was that Rassmussen poll that said 9% of Dems would never vote for a black man. That had nothing to do with 0bama’s radical views, they just don’t like blacks.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1971936/posts


36 posted on 09/20/2008 7:09:22 AM PDT by noob4palin (That's Governor Palin to you.)
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To: TypeZoNegative
found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — ... responsible for their own troubles

It is now racist to believe one of the most basic tenets of human existence, and that which helps separate us from the lower animals: that we acknowledge and accept responsibility for our own actions!

37 posted on 09/20/2008 7:09:24 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Never kick a leftist when they are down. Wait until they are halfway back up. You get more leverage!)
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To: TypeZoNegative
I know a couple of through-and-through die-hard democrats. If you get them off to the side in private and coax them into being totally honest, they'll tell you that they dislike Obama because he's black. Or, if they don't say this outright, they'll express concerns that other democrats they know don't like him because he's black. What an idiotic, hateful bunch of people. The party of multiculturalism and diversity is filled with stupid racists.

Now granted, a racist post against B.O. would be removed from FR pretty fast, but even so, I can't recall any of my ultraconservative circle saying nary a peep against the guy because he's black! A couple of my black friends have expressed disappointment in him for "playing" the black constituency and being a racist himself, but that's something they observe from black culture...something I'm not usually privy to.

We dislike B.O. because he's a dangerous communist. He could be purple and green for all we care.

While we're on this subject.... I have a theory. Have you noticed how they can't seem to get a good photo of Michelle Obama lately? I think B.O.'s home life is going to degrade significantly after the coming election. I hope he has a nice warm, and spacious doghouse to sleep in. :-) ...because something tells me that Michelle is going to be one frigid and angry woman.
38 posted on 09/20/2008 7:09:43 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: tomkat
*** Please explain to me why this tripe, originally posted here under an Associated Pukes link, is sitting at the top of Breaking News ?? ***

Maybe this 'dupe' article was posted because a few weeks back JimRob declared that AP articles were not to be posted and would be pulled. That policy/stance seems to have been eased since I do see AP articles popping up again.

As to it being 'tripe'? That's something else again. This is confirming the Bradley-Wilder effect, i.e.: That white liberal dems are racists. All their *tolerance* disappears behind the voting curtain.

39 posted on 09/20/2008 7:15:11 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: TypeZoNegative

So what? Racial views steer lots of blacks TOWARDS Hussein.

JoMa


40 posted on 09/20/2008 7:23:35 AM PDT by joma89
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Racial Views Steer White Democrats Away From Obama

Obnoxious!! I realize that most of the birdbrains who write the above titles and subsequent BS are more than likely vegans whose brains have shrunk.

BUT

Give Americans credit. They have endured listening to Obama for the last 2 years. Most have picked up on the fact that elitists like Obama want them to foot the bill once again for the layabouts.

And, if that's not bad enough his associates are criminals and racists.

Furthermore, he may be a closet Muslim. He certainly seems like he's in the tank with them like his friend, Odinga, in Kenya who signed an agreement with the Muslim radicals. Obama supported this guy and meddled in the Kenyan presidential election. When Odinga lost 1,000 Christians lost their lives and their churches in the violence.

And, finally, the big one = Obama asked the Iraqis to halt the withdrawal of American troops until after the election.

Sucka should be in jail = traitor!!!

41 posted on 09/20/2008 7:23:38 AM PDT by xtinct (Suicide Hotline... !! "Obama here" --> Please Hold...)
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To: TypeZoNegative

Every criticism of Obama is due to racism, isn’t it? Imagine if he gets elected, what we’ll have to listen to for the next four or eight years. “You don’t like Obama’s tax policies ? You’re a racist!”. “You don’t like Obama’s cabinet appointments? You’re a Klansman!”. They will tell us that there is no such thing as principled opposition, just racism in disguise. We can’t let this happen.


42 posted on 09/20/2008 7:23:48 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TypeZoNegative
Calling people racist because they post a picture of 2 blacks is NOT a good way to get me to vote for a proven race baiting, white hating, bigotted socialist!
43 posted on 09/20/2008 7:26:29 AM PDT by dbacks (Should we really elect a man that would not be allowed to be an airport baggage screener?)
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To: johnny7

No doubt. I wonder how the core Democrats are handling the fact that Obama is handing the Republicans the voters on a silver platter.


44 posted on 09/20/2008 7:30:15 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Don't burn a bra, burn a feminist!)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

I know I am.


45 posted on 09/20/2008 7:31:02 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Don't burn a bra, burn a feminist!)
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To: TypeZoNegative

Surveys like this one appear designed to elicit the types of responses that can most easily be characterized as racism. In these surveys, respondents are forced to generalize about race and to reduce complicated subjects to simplistic black/white answers. And then the liberal media uses these induced generalizations as (gotcha!) proof of racism.

According to this article, the statement that “if blacks would only try harder, they could be just as well off as whites” is considered “latent prejudice” and “whether people believe blacks’ troubles are their own fault” is a measure of racism.

But studies have shown repeatedly that the single biggest correlating factor to the cycle of government dependency and low income in African-American communities is illegitimacy, which is now 70% among African-Americans. And that being raised by a single mother is a strong correlative factor for future crime and failure at school and in the workplace. Whose fault is it if young black women have multiple children out of wedlock and these children are raised without a positive father figure in their lives? How is that the fault of anyone but themselves? Babies generally are made the same way now as they always have been. (The same applies of course to the 50% of hispanic illegitimacy and the over 20% of white illegitimacy.)

The liberals apparently believe it is irrational for people to hold the view that someone’s behavior and actions should have consequences for that person.

“Lazy” is a loaded, pejorative term. Is it an irrational term to apply to an able-bodied person on a government assistance program in a time of relatively low unemployment? Most blacks are not on government assistance programs and most blacks are not violent criminals. But a significantly higher percentage of able-bodied blacks are on government assistance programs than the percentage of all Americans. And a much higher percentage of blacks have committed a violent crime than the percentage of all Americans. If someone, forced to generalize and thinking in terms of deviation from average, uses terms such as “lazy” and “irresponsible” and “violent” in a survey, is that person a racist or has the survey been designed to find as much “racism” as possible?


46 posted on 09/20/2008 7:35:03 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: TypeZoNegative

There was never any downside to Barack. If he won, the Democrat National Committee’s print/audio/video division would be extended long into the future. If he lost, the default template “racism” would kick in until they hoisted their next “victim” to victory or they went out of business.


47 posted on 09/20/2008 7:35:22 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: TypeZoNegative

Why does everything have to be reduced to race? There’s nothing wrong with Obama’s “race”, there’s plenty wrong with his political views.


48 posted on 09/20/2008 7:39:06 AM PDT by popdonnelly (I'll tell you a little secret: we're smarter and more competent than the Left.)
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To: TypeZoNegative

If it gets polarizingly ugly, these statistics will prevail.

Race and Hispanic/Latino origin

Total Population 296,410,404 100.0%
Single race
White 237,854,954 80.2
Black or African American 37,909,341 12.8
American Indian and Alaska Native 2,863,001 1.0
Asian 12,687,472 4.3
Native Hawaiian
and other Pacific Islander 516,612 0.2

Two or more races 4,579,024 1.5
Some other race n.a. n.a.
Hispanic or Latino 42,687,224 14.4

Source: U.S. Census Bureau, National Population Estimates.
May, 2006

NOTE: Percentages do not add up to 100% due to rounding
and because Hispanics may be of any race and are
therefore counted under more than one category.


49 posted on 09/20/2008 7:42:28 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: TypeZoNegative
Ah! The media is laying the groundwork and setting up the "he lost because America is racist" excuse.
50 posted on 09/20/2008 7:43:49 AM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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