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Poll: Racial misgivings of whites an Obama issue
AP via Breitbart ^ | 9/20/2008 | Ron Fournier and Trevor Tompson

Posted on 09/20/2008 12:09:06 PM PDT by GVnana

Sep 20 01:11 PM US/Eastern
By RON FOURNIER and TREVOR TOMPSON
Associated Press Writers

WASHINGTON (AP) - Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks—many calling them "lazy," "violent" or responsible for their own troubles.

The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race could easily be larger than the final difference between the candidates in 2004—about 2.5 percentage points.

Certainly, Republican John McCain has his own obstacles: He's an ally of an unpopular president and would be the nation's oldest first-term president. But Obama faces this: 40 percent of all white Americans hold at least a partly negative view toward blacks, and that includes many Democrats and independents.

More than a third of all white Democrats and independents—voters Obama can't win the White House without—agreed with at least one negative adjective about blacks, according to the survey, and they are significantly less likely to vote for Obama than those who don't have such views.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; blackvote; democrats; mccainpalin; obama; obamabiden; racism; racistdemocrats; whitevote
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Fodder for the "If you don't vote for Obama, you're a racist," crowd.

BUT, note this: "Lots of Republicans harbor prejudices, too, but the survey found they weren't voting against Obama because of his race. Most Republicans wouldn't vote for any Democrat for president—white, black or brown."

1 posted on 09/20/2008 12:09:06 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana

This should make white folks feel comfortable voting for McCain on race alone. After all 98% of Blacks are voting for Obama because he’s black.


2 posted on 09/20/2008 12:11:43 PM PDT by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin, spaying and neutering the animals on the angry left)
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To: GVnana

Well we all know about them white guys - especially if they’re from the south.

It’s not a racial slur cause our media says it’s not. :D


3 posted on 09/20/2008 12:11:49 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: GVnana
That is key and is what the MSM keeps glossing over. They call Republicans the party of rednecks, but somehow refuse to acknowledge the bigotry within their own party.
4 posted on 09/20/2008 12:12:20 PM PDT by lt.america (Palin was McCain's Midway while Saddleback was his Coral Sea)
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To: GVnana

New Dem motto: We have met the racists, and they is us!


5 posted on 09/20/2008 12:12:20 PM PDT by Jagman
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To: GVnana

“Most Republicans wouldn’t vote for any Democrat for president—white, black or brown”

Exactly! Plus, I’m not voting against Obama because he’s black. I have no problem with a black person being President. I am voting against Obama because he is a pro-abortion/infanticide socialist.


6 posted on 09/20/2008 12:13:34 PM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: GVnana
Blacks, yeah, they are an inclusive group.

7 posted on 09/20/2008 12:13:40 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Jagman

My very liberal sister says Obama would be way ahead now except for all the racist and closet racist Americans. Yeah..that must be the reason........./sarcasm


8 posted on 09/20/2008 12:14:05 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Did submariner's wife find her tagline yet????)
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To: GVnana
Just setting everyone up so guilt can be slung in the increasing likelihood that he loses due to his unsuitability, not his race. Here, pick a card:


9 posted on 09/20/2008 12:14:11 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The Word of God is powerful. That's why so many people are afraid to read it.)
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To: GVnana

How many of these articles are they going to write? Okay, we’ve got it. You don’t vote for The One and you’re a racist. I’m willing to live with that.


10 posted on 09/20/2008 12:14:18 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: GVnana

Of course the fact that he is a marxist has little to do with how the election will turn out.


11 posted on 09/20/2008 12:14:26 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: GVnana

Correction: Racial misgivings of DEMOCRATIC whites an Obama issue. Øbama losing 17-19% of his base is the elephant in the room this election.

Have you heard any hand-wringing from the MSM about this? What would the coverage be if McCain was losing 17-19% of HIS base??


12 posted on 09/20/2008 12:14:39 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Jagman

If opposing huge tax increases, weak on defending the country and nationalization of healthcare and energy makes me a racist, then so be it.


13 posted on 09/20/2008 12:14:45 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: GVnana

When McCain’s ad blasted Obama for being friendly with Raines, the media cried racism. When the 527 ad come out blasting Obama for having ties to Rev. Wright and Bill Ayes, the press will be there crying racism.


14 posted on 09/20/2008 12:14:59 PM PDT by yongin (Don't get mad at MSM smears. Do GOTV work for Palin)
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To: GVnana

And of course the obligatory, non-biased AP suggestion that the evil McCain is an “ally” of the evil Bush. The “if the Messiah loses it’s because whites are racist scum” meme will gather momentum throughout the rest of the election cycle. Everyone knows the “flyover crowd” is far too stupid to judge Obama on his merits.


15 posted on 09/20/2008 12:15:13 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: MomwithHope

You’re sister needs serious psychological help!!!


16 posted on 09/20/2008 12:15:18 PM PDT by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin, spaying and neutering the animals on the angry left)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

Exactly. When you see that much of a mismatch then the question should be who’s being the sheeple voting on account of race.

The Worst Candidate in History and here comes the excuses . . . so very predictable, especially when it comes from the Cafferty types who wouldn’t live in a black neighborhood for anything.


17 posted on 09/20/2008 12:16:34 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Tzimisce

What black leader in the world has any respect from other nations?


18 posted on 09/20/2008 12:17:16 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: Jagman

No matter how the race turns out, we’re going to be considered racists. We might as well win.


19 posted on 09/20/2008 12:18:07 PM PDT by y6162 (uot)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

“This should make white folks feel comfortable voting for McCain on race alone. After all 98% of Blacks are voting for Obama because he’s black.”

The fact is that if white against black racism was as prevalent as some would have you believe, Obama wouldn’t stand a chance at getting elected president. In actuality there are certainly some whites, and some hispanics, and possibly some from other backgrounds who will not vote for Obama because of he is 50% black. However, there are also likely a significant number of whites who will vote for Obama specifically because he is 50% black.


20 posted on 09/20/2008 12:18:19 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: A_Former_Democrat

I’m just wondering when our side will call them out on it and say “Where is the racism. Doesn’t it lie with the group that is supporting its candidate by 98%?” Of course we are the stupid party so I don’t expect anyone of prominence to say it.


21 posted on 09/20/2008 12:19:27 PM PDT by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin, spaying and neutering the animals on the angry left)
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To: GVnana

Funny thing about this “poll.”

It’s Democrats being labeled racist, not Republicans.

I see it as gult tripping Whites into voting for a very flawed candidate.

Think they’ll realize they should have stuck with Hillary?


22 posted on 09/20/2008 12:21:25 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
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To: GVnana

Funny how such articles only cast whitey as being racist. Other ethnic groups, such as those of Hispanic, Indian, or east Asian descent, could never possibly be racist, right?


23 posted on 09/20/2008 12:22:05 PM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: GVnana
I am against Obama because of what he stands for, nothing to do with the color of his skin. I am against Obama because he is pro abortion/pro choice (same thing btw) and a variety of other things such as character, character that he does not have. I am against Obama because he has hoped for failure in Iraq etc and has hoped the economy would go bad etc. Nothing to do with the color of his skin.

I can think of many black men and women that would be very good Presidents. Off the top of my head,how about Joe Watkins or Michael Steele.

While the Democrat party platform is what it is, it would not matter who ran .

24 posted on 09/20/2008 12:22:55 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Obama on the other hand does not know the Lord Jesus, and is only the Lords enemy)
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To: GVnana
many calling them "lazy," "violent" or responsible for their own troubles.

So, who is responsible for their troubles?

25 posted on 09/20/2008 12:24:20 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
So, who is responsible for their troubles?

I saw that too. I guess I must be a racist. Who would be responsible if not them? Maybe their government enablers?

26 posted on 09/20/2008 12:33:23 PM PDT by seowulf (Discipline knows no emotion and frequently runs counter to the whims of panic or elation.)
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To: GVnana
The poll sought to measure latent prejudices among whites by asking about factors contributing to the state of black America. One finding: More than a quarter of white Democrats agree that "if blacks would only try harder, they could be just as well off as whites."

If you think agreeing with that statement indicates "latent prejudice," you just might be a far-left academic moonbat.

27 posted on 09/20/2008 12:34:42 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: GVnana
This is about the tenth story that I've seen in the past couple of days with the same theme, all from the left wing msm.

On one hand they are hoping to play on White liberal guilt in a close race.

They are also doing what obama did in San Francisco when he spoke about bitter people clinging to their guns and religion, trying to explain to his sophisticated fellow travelers the coming loss, blaming it on small minded White bigots.

28 posted on 09/20/2008 12:39:27 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: All

F$$$ Guilt....


29 posted on 09/20/2008 12:40:31 PM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: Abbeville Conservative
I agree, let 98% of the Blacks for the Black guy. We won't call that racism as long they don't call it racism when 98% of Whites vote for the White guy.
30 posted on 09/20/2008 12:41:09 PM PDT by Born In America (Affirmative action is no way to elect a President, now or ever....)
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To: DakotaRed
I see it as guilt tripping Whites into voting for a very flawed candidate.

I do too.

31 posted on 09/20/2008 12:43:52 PM PDT by GVnana ("I once dressed as Tina Fey for Halloween." - Sarah Palin)
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To: GVnana
I suspect this is an Obama plant (one of many that MSN handles for them).

They are playing to the ones who will let a guilty conscience concerning slavery influence their vote. And, there are some like that.

“Oh dear, poor Barry! I favor McCain but I'll vote for that poor young man who overcame so many hardships to counter the redneck vote.”

32 posted on 09/20/2008 12:44:54 PM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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To: GVnana

“Could Blacks views of Whites” cost McCain support? (alternative header)


33 posted on 09/20/2008 12:51:46 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: GVnana

This is really simple and you should not over think the issue.

If you are not black and vote against Obama you are a racist.

Accept it and move on.

It will save a lot of typing and free you up to read other material or get on with the household chores!

By the way, I have found nothing in the election laws that say I must vote for Obama because he is black.

(Well actually half white and maybe arab and muslim )

So, have a nice day now that you have come to grips with your inherent racism and move on to something productive.


34 posted on 09/20/2008 12:55:47 PM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Abbeville Conservative; y6162; pieceofthepuzzle

We put a woman on the ticket and she is not a woman according to the Democrats. If the candidate were a Clarence Thomas or Michael Steele, then he wouldn’t be a real black... So, no black man, or woman nor white womman will be accepted as such if they’re not a liberal. No judge, secretary of state...you name it.


35 posted on 09/20/2008 12:57:34 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime member of the "Christian-Radical-Right-Wing-Conspirators")
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To: beaversmom
They are hoping that the constant mantra of racism will cause racists to feel guilty and get them to vote for Obama.

It will have the opposite effect. By drawing attention to his race, it will cause of lot of supposedly open-minded people to vote for McCain.

In other words, MSM's constant complaining about the "Bradley effect" will actually CAUSE the Bradley effect.
36 posted on 09/20/2008 12:59:18 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: GVnana

If Odumbo’s people think Anglos are going to have black man remorse, wait until Hispanics get into the privacy of the voting booth. The PCgasm the radical left has worked up a lather for is going to be a fizzle, the big, political, anti climax of the century.


37 posted on 09/20/2008 1:00:34 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Abbeville Conservative

Dem’s can say whatever they want, but when your party puts forward a clearly ignorant and unqualified black candidate.

That gets me thinking, why would they put forward a clearly ignorant and unqualified black candidate?

I smell conspiracy theory.


38 posted on 09/20/2008 1:07:55 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: wk4bush2004

You forgot black separatist, and he has bad taste in women.


39 posted on 09/20/2008 1:09:02 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: freespirited
if blacks would only try harder, they could be just as well off as whites."

Yeah, well actually the facts show that it isn't a matter of "trying harder" but rather a matter of doing the right thing. Blacks in stable marriages, with at least highschool educations, without children out of wedlock, do just as well economically as Whites with comparable educations.

40 posted on 09/20/2008 1:10:01 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: MomwithHope
I could vote for Mike Steel without looking back, or a few other black guys in politics. But for Obama, not a chance.
41 posted on 09/20/2008 1:11:35 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: MomwithHope

tell your sister that she shouldn’t promote a man to the presidency just because he is black, but because he has ideas, a history of taking his ideas and implementing them and accomplishing something BEFORE he ascends to the White House......otherwise it’s just affirmative action.....and community organizer or not, I haven’t seen much in the way of accomplishment.


42 posted on 09/20/2008 1:14:20 PM PDT by tioga (Goodbye ugly pantsuits, hello sexy specs! Vote McCain/Palin 2008!)
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To: ANGGAPO

I agree, Steel is awesome.....


43 posted on 09/20/2008 1:15:19 PM PDT by tioga (Goodbye ugly pantsuits, hello sexy specs! Vote McCain/Palin 2008!)
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To: wk4bush2004
I’m not voting against Obama because he’s black

I think we need to stop defendig ourselves. It's nobody's business why I vote the way I do. Screw em all.

44 posted on 09/20/2008 1:16:10 PM PDT by Stentor (Mr. Obama. Dr Drew is on the line.)
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To: Calamari; All

You are exactly right. Bottom line-if you are white and won’t vote for a black Democrat/socialist/marxist/black liberation theology believer, you are a racist. Accept it, embrace it, and get on with your life. Otherwise, you will waste lots of valuable time attempting to explain, defend, etc. Just forget it, be a racist, and vote for the black conservative the next time one runs. And don’t forget to laugh at all the racist ‘rats you know who won’t vote for him/her.


45 posted on 09/20/2008 1:16:14 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: pallis
Odumbo --- LOL, good one.
46 posted on 09/20/2008 1:16:39 PM PDT by tioga (Goodbye ugly pantsuits, hello sexy specs! Vote McCain/Palin 2008!)
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To: GVnana

For the first time in my adult life I will be proud to be a white guy when Obama loses. sarcasm/


47 posted on 09/20/2008 1:17:39 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (That sharp pain to the LibRat's groin is called the Palin Effect.)
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To: GVnana

Isn’t this just another way of describing the “bradley effect”? Many here assume it has skewed the poll results and will pull this election out in the end. How does this disagree with that conventional wisdom?


48 posted on 09/20/2008 1:18:56 PM PDT by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: GVnana

I guess that if I buy some Jackson/Sharpton “Black Offset Credits” it would be ok to vote Republican.


49 posted on 09/20/2008 1:20:57 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: elpadre

obama’s ancestors were not slaves.......they were Muslim Africans and a white liberal girl


50 posted on 09/20/2008 1:21:43 PM PDT by tioga (Goodbye ugly pantsuits, hello sexy specs! Vote McCain/Palin 2008!)
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