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15,000 Jews Say `No` to Palin at UN Rally on Iran
Israelenews.com ^ | 9/21/08 | Richard Silverstein

Posted on 09/21/2008 9:50:27 AM PDT by dalight

J Street has just won its first political skirmish. Only a day or so ago it began a campaign to petition Malcolm Hoenlein and the Conference of Presidents against its decision to invite Sarah Palin to address a UN rally against Iran on the day the latter's president addresses the world body.


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Just like other criminals, they couldn't resist bragging about this disgraceful behavior. This is an earth shattering development for the Jewish community when fighting the evil that Iranian actions and intentions takes a backseat to some perceived momentary partisan victory.

This headline could have been written, "15,000 Jews fight to destroy Israel and bring shame on our community."

1 posted on 09/21/2008 9:50:27 AM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight

I don’t get why Malcolm caved on this. What’s his explanation?


2 posted on 09/21/2008 9:51:33 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (Welcome home, former McCain haters and rageaholics!)
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To: dalight

Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations
> Malcolm Hoenlein, Executive Vice Chairman
> 212-318-6111

For more information contact info@conferenceofpresidents.org or 212-318-6111
info@jcrc.org or 212-983-4800 x 161”


3 posted on 09/21/2008 9:52:29 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (Welcome home, former McCain haters and rageaholics!)
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To: dalight

Someone please, please help me understand why Jews choose to vote for a Party of Islamic sympathizers? It defies logic.


4 posted on 09/21/2008 9:53:11 AM PDT by stentorian conservative
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To: dalight

They all would have made for good Kapos in the Warsaw Ghetto.


5 posted on 09/21/2008 9:53:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dalight

Wasn’t this the same group that disinvited Palin because they did not want to be partisan? Wasn’t this a rally against nukes in Iran?


6 posted on 09/21/2008 9:53:47 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: dalight

Did “15,000 Jews” say “no”? Or just their leadership?


7 posted on 09/21/2008 9:53:58 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (By Obama's own reckoning, isn't Lyndon LaRouche more qualified? He's run since the 70's)
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To: dalight

These are NYC liberal jews who are going to vote RAT no matter what. Palin shouldn’t give them the time of day. Bottom line: she stands with Israel and its right to do what it needs to do to protect itself.


8 posted on 09/21/2008 9:55:04 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: stentorian conservative

Many Jews are socialists and marxists. They think(and are probably right) that they can control the Rats just as well or better than the GOP. Remember, that although Israel is a democracy it has deep roots in socialism. That has mostly worn off, but the political leaning is still there.


9 posted on 09/21/2008 9:55:26 AM PDT by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
I don’t get why Malcolm caved on this. What’s his explanation?

Jewish Dems threatened to get the IRS to revoke the tax-exempt status of all the non-profits who were sponsors of this event.

10 posted on 09/21/2008 9:55:29 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Always Right
This is the same group that disinvited Palin because they did not want to lose their tax exemption.
11 posted on 09/21/2008 9:55:38 AM PDT by B4Ranch (I'd rather have a VP that can gut a Moose, than a President that want's to gut our Second Amendment!)
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To: stentorian conservative
Someone please, please help me understand why Jews choose to vote for a Party of Islamic sympathizers? It defies logic.

Communist/liberals agenda is to take over organizations and to co opt the agenda.

12 posted on 09/21/2008 9:55:49 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: dalight
Lots of spin in that article, to believe the writer, one would have to assume that “all” 15,000 or so attendees were there to applaud Governor Palin’s shunning.

I'd disagree with that notion, and really it is a unconscionable for the writer to suggest such a thing.

This came out bad for everyone involved IMO.

13 posted on 09/21/2008 9:56:06 AM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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14 posted on 09/21/2008 9:56:34 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: dalight

She couldn’t go but another group can politicize the event?


15 posted on 09/21/2008 9:57:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: stentorian conservative
Someone please, please help me understand why Jews choose to vote for a Party of Islamic sympathizers? It defies logic.

I believe someone has threatened to take away their nonprofit status if they engage in political promotions such as having Palin address the group.

16 posted on 09/21/2008 9:58:15 AM PDT by oldbrowser (It's not an energy crisis, it's a worthless politicians crisis.)
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To: dalight

15,000 Jews say “Yes” to the Obamination.


17 posted on 09/21/2008 9:58:54 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: stentorian conservative
As a Jew myself, I can tell you:

I don't know...

Just like I don't know how Jews pre WWII in Germany felt safe???

18 posted on 09/21/2008 9:58:56 AM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (Today, July 16th I no longer donate money for Israel)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I agree PsychoBunny it was their leaders. The fact they clearly had no problem with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton being there says it all.


19 posted on 09/21/2008 9:59:51 AM PDT by Galleta
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To: dalight

No offense to the Jewish Freepers as I have no clue about Jewish political organizations, but it appears that “J Street” is Jewish the way that “Catholics for choice” are Catholic and “Sojourners” are Protestant


20 posted on 09/21/2008 10:00:00 AM PDT by Rosemont ($4+ for gas. Can we drill now?)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
I don’t get why Malcolm caved on this. What’s his explanation?

I am looking for the link. He was on radio Friday morning explaining. Essentially 3 of the 5 organizations sponsoring the event announced that they intended to pull out of the Rally if it went ahead with Palin.

Obama had suggested Wexler as the Democrat speaker and when Palin didn't pull out due to the insult, they began pressing for Palin to be disinvited. This pressure was extraordinary including lawyers pressuring the sponsors that their Tax Exempt status would be at risk if they dared to continue to participate in the Rally with Palin speaking.

Malcolm is deeply upset but had to step back and save the rally. He said the truth would come out and the folks responsible for this would have to deal with the consequences of this shameful episode.

He believed allowing this to completely cancel the Rally would be a greater evil so the organization accepted the reality that some Jews love party and power more than Israel.

He is responsible to do what he can to protect our country and Israel by voicing opposition to the evil that Iran is attempting.

21 posted on 09/21/2008 10:00:42 AM PDT by dalight
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To: Cinnamon Girl
I don’t get why Malcolm caved on this. What’s his explanation?

Well, the explanation they are putting out is that their tax status, as non-partisan organizations, was being threatened; and that it was more important to focus on Iran and Ahmadinejad than on US politics (which was becoming the focus).

I don't agree with this stance - if you back down from standing up to political and financial intimidation in your own country, then how do you maintain credibility in protesting tyranny in other countries? - but that is their explanation.

22 posted on 09/21/2008 10:01:19 AM PDT by BusterBear
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To: dalight

All that and no mention of Bush.


23 posted on 09/21/2008 10:02:18 AM PDT by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: stentorian conservative
Someone please, please help me understand why Jews choose to vote for a Party of Islamic sympathizers? It defies logic.

Some folks love the Democrat party more than they love America or Israel. Its the only answer. I am ashamed for all of us that this could have happened but it is a reality that we have to face once in a while.

24 posted on 09/21/2008 10:02:34 AM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight
"This rally debacle also illustrates how politically out of touch the Israel lobby’s leadership is with the views of mainstream Jews. At best, 30% of them will vote for McCain-Palin in November. 70% will vote for the other guy."

Does Silverstein know this to be a fact, or is he just making it up as he goes along?

25 posted on 09/21/2008 10:02:44 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
I would imagine in was their leadership. . .It is difficult to understand why the Jewish community can side with the left's political tactics. Their goal is to make people beholden and cause fear. If they vote other than left, "everything will be taken away from them". . .They can't be that uneducated to believe such propaganda.
26 posted on 09/21/2008 10:03:02 AM PDT by beethoven
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Did “15,000 Jews” say “no”? Or just their leadership?

This is a J Street operative crowing about their ASTROTURFING campaign. A specialty of David Axelrod of ....

27 posted on 09/21/2008 10:04:36 AM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight

So, Sarah Palin, who supports Israel’s right to exist, is a greater threat to Liberal Jews than is Iran, who have promised to “wipe Israel off the map.” Do I have that clear? And they say Conservatives are the stupid ones.


28 posted on 09/21/2008 10:06:20 AM PDT by Reaganesque (Vote: mccain/PALIN 2008!!)
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To: jersey117
These are NYC liberal jews who are going to vote RAT no matter what. Palin shouldn’t give them the time of day. Bottom line: she stands with Israel and its right to do what it needs to do to protect itself.

This is not fair. Infact, the real import of this article is that J Street has claimed responsibility for this horror. Much like a terrorist or a bomber claims credit for their crime thinking that normal folks won't be horrified and recoil from this.

29 posted on 09/21/2008 10:06:35 AM PDT by dalight
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To: stentorian conservative

Maybe they really don’t; unless they are from Hollywood, the land of morons.


30 posted on 09/21/2008 10:06:45 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: B4Ranch
This is the same group that disinvited Palin because they did not want to lose their tax exemption.

This is the group who worked hard behind the scenes to make any number of threats to all of the organizations who were attempting to coordinate this rally.

31 posted on 09/21/2008 10:08:08 AM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight
Well, when they help elect Osama Obama, and the next Holocaust happens, let them cry for help again. But this will be a self inflicted wound. So they are going to get what they voted for, a Muslim that hates Jews and will kill them. Vote often for your own deaths.
32 posted on 09/21/2008 10:09:34 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Obama's mama was a Seattle Marxist, trained him, thus he is a Marxist. A communist.)
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To: stentorian conservative

It’s not logic, it is beleiving a lie.


33 posted on 09/21/2008 10:09:45 AM PDT by Psycho_Runner (I miss the Crusades)
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To: padre35
Lots of spin in that article, to believe the writer, one would have to assume that “all” 15,000 or so attendees were there to applaud Governor Palin’s shunning.

Re-read this article. It claims that 15,000 emails were sent to the Rally Organizers that caused Palin to be dis-invited. This may have occurred, but it was the other threats and back room maneuvering that actually forced this crisis.

34 posted on 09/21/2008 10:10:22 AM PDT by dalight
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To: stentorian conservative
Someone please, please help me understand why Jews choose to vote for a Party of Islamic sympathizers? It defies logic.

Most Jews are anti gun too. First thing Hitler did was take away all the guns. With their history one would think they'd all own a personal arsenal but they don't.

35 posted on 09/21/2008 10:10:55 AM PDT by Shadraq
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To: stentorian conservative

Defies all logic and reason, but many are leftists first, Jews second. They now support the party endorsed by those sworn to kill them all.


36 posted on 09/21/2008 10:11:57 AM PDT by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: Alouette
I heard that, but it's not an answer. If Wexler was offered instead of Hillary!, so take Wexler and have Palin still speak. Malcolm should have made public which organizations pressured him rather than kowtowing to their demands.
37 posted on 09/21/2008 10:12:07 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (Welcome home, former McCain haters and rageaholics!)
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To: Rosemont
No offense to the Jewish Freepers as I have no clue about Jewish political organizations, but it appears that “J Street” is Jewish the way that “Catholics for choice” are Catholic and “Sojourners” are Protestant

Nail meet Head

38 posted on 09/21/2008 10:12:17 AM PDT by dalight
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To: MaxMax
All that and no mention of Bush.

Palin Derangement Syndrome trumps Bush Derangement Syndrome.

39 posted on 09/21/2008 10:14:53 AM PDT by dalight
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To: Psycho_Runner

If Jews will not stand beside those who want to defend Israel from Iran, why should I?

Maybe it actually is time to re-evaluate where we should stand on the defense of Israel.


40 posted on 09/21/2008 10:15:17 AM PDT by Rapscallion (The Democrat Party is showing the same signs of mental illness that most hate groups show.)
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To: dalight

So Obama personally suggested Wexler as a deliberate insult to Palin? I can believe it. The nastiness of Obama is amazing. When he first began to look like a viable candidate for the nomination early this year, I thought that he was just as bad as Hillary on issues but at least a nicer person. I was mistaken—he outdoes the Clintons.


41 posted on 09/21/2008 10:17:03 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus (Sarah, yes! Shariah, no!)
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To: DJ Taylor
"This rally debacle also illustrates how politically out of touch the Israel lobby’s leadership is with the views of mainstream Jews. At best, 30% of them will vote for McCain-Palin in November. 70% will vote for the other guy."

Does Silverstein know this to be a fact, or is he just making it up as he goes along?

Making it up. Living in the past. Dreaming. Take your pick.

42 posted on 09/21/2008 10:18:11 AM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight

Jstreet is a relatively new organization of extremist moonbats who basically believe we should appease Ahmadinejad at all costs. The only way they could get 15,000 signatures is if the Democratic Party supplied them. The founders Ben Ami and Solomon worked for Bill Clinton. One of their main goals this year is to defeat Coleman in Minnesota. This is a Democratic Party front group, nothing more, nothing less. Ben Ami was involved in the Geneva “peace effort” financed by Europeans aimed at Israel’s capitulation to the PLO. Its support in Israel never went beyond two or three percent of electorate.


43 posted on 09/21/2008 10:18:12 AM PDT by idov
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To: dalight

So this is no longer a rally against Iran but has become a rally against Palin. Hmmmmm


44 posted on 09/21/2008 10:18:12 AM PDT by JimSEA (just another liberal-bashing fearmonger)
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To: dalight

Yes, you’re right about this boasting by the Jewish left. The author of this artice is falsely crediting J Street for this mess and putting in a plug for them in so doing. J Street is a new start-up Jewish leftist lobby that aims to compete with AIPAC.


45 posted on 09/21/2008 10:18:33 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: dalight

I am actually surprised the rally didnt morph into a Support Imanutjob gathering. With a guest appearance by the fake Jew Pinch Sulzberger of the NY Times. What a crowd of idiots.


46 posted on 09/21/2008 10:19:19 AM PDT by doosee
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To: dalight

either way, I did not read the article closely because IMO the writer was gloating, and with the affection for Sarah Palin among Conservatives, this could turn really ugly dalight.

For me, the writers point was to stir divisions in Moral people, that is what he was aiming for and he may have hit the target.


47 posted on 09/21/2008 10:22:05 AM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
From: UJCMail
Subject: RE: Banning Palin from AMadNutJob rally
To: Dave
Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 2:00 PM

Dear Dave,

We received your note and appreciate you telling us of your concerns about the Rally to Stop Iran Now.

Unfortunately, the current focus on the speaker lineup and about the politics surrounding these speakers is diverting us from the overall objective. This was never the intention of the team of organizations planning for the rally, which, by the way, we conducted last year with not one objection expressed about this approach.

This year, in the face of a highly charged national election campaign, we became exposed to concerns about our tax-exempt status, due to what developed as an unequal representation of the parties. In the face of this advice from counsel engaged by two of the sponsoring organizations, we determined that it was not in the best interests of our humanitarian mission to risk our status in this regard.

We are trying very hard now to keep the focus on the main point of the rally, which remains as pressing as ever: to draw the world's attention to the dangers of a nuclear Iran . With Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's appearance at the UN this Monday, it is crucial that our community and others continue to gather to make our voices heard: a nuclear Iran poses a dire threat to the United States and to Israel .
We must act now.Having said that, naturally, we would wish that all of this could have been avoided. Just know that all of the organizers acted in the best interests of the community given the facts at hand.

Shabbat Shalom.

Sincerely,

Howard Rieger

48 posted on 09/21/2008 10:24:37 AM PDT by radar101
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To: justiceseeker93; dalight; Alouette

From J Street’s website (unless this is fake):

We Won! Palin Not Speaking at Iran Rally

We collected over 20,000 signatures in 24 hours asking Iran Unity rally organizer Malcolm Hoenlein to take Sarah Palin off the schedule for Monday’s rally, and he caved to our pressure on Thursday afternoon citing the fact that the rally had become too partisan.

This is the right decision. A unity rally to express communal solidarity is no place for partisan politics. And to give such prominence to Sarah Palin alone would have spoken neither to, nor for, the American Jewish community.

This is a victory not just for the 20,188 others who signed J Street’s petition. It’s a victory for the broader community. And we’re pleased the rally’s organizers came to their senses so quickly.

Victories like these don’t come easily - or often. But when they do, we should savor them, at least briefly.

We’ll be back at it tomorrow, because our next task is making sure that the messages at the rally reflect the view of a majority of Americans - Jewish and otherwise - that the best way to deal with Iran is through tough, smart diplomacy - not saber rattling and threats of force.


49 posted on 09/21/2008 10:24:44 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (Welcome home, former McCain haters and rageaholics!)
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To: dalight
This rabble-rousing jerk Silverstein will be shocked in November when he wakes up and sees that at least at least 40% of the Jewish vote will go to McCain-Palin.

And trash like this from Jewish lefties will only increase Jewish support for the GOP.

50 posted on 09/21/2008 10:28:23 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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