Ticket Exchange (Rumors about Biden citing "Health Issues" and dropping out)

Snopes ^ | 22 Sep 08 | None

[SkyPilot]

Claim: Joe Biden is planning to step down from vice-presidential slot on the Democratic ticket in favor of Hillary Clinton.

Status: Undetermined

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/vpchange.asp

[C210N]

how expensive it would be for Obama

Politically expensive? Probably cheap, given that he was "forced" to accept the bowing-out by Biden due to health reasons (signed by a doctor, of course).

The main choreographer here is George Soros. He has multiple pawns, and couldn't care less about the aspirations of any one foot soldier. If GS deems a Obama/Hillary! ticket wins while the others lose, he will have contrived some avenue that he'll travel down to make it so.

[FatherofFive]

First, it would call into question his decision-making abilities.

You see, he voted 'present' at the VP selection meeting, so he's covered.

[John Valentine]

Even if Joe Biden were willing to go along with this, there is NOTHING in it for Hillary.

Think about it. If Obama loses and she’s NOT on the ticket, the field is open for her in 2012. If Obama wins and she’s not on the ticket, she only needs to wait until 2016, at the longest. If Obama screws up, he might be vulnerable in 2012 even as a sitting President.

The ONLY way Hillary loses is if the get on to the ticket and it loses. And there is every reason to think it would. Look what happened the last time someone tried this stunt! remember, it’s Obama at the head of the ticket, not Hillary, and a move like this makes Obama look every bit like the sinister goof that he is.

Hillary is MILES ahead to quitely sink Obama’s ship while looking like the good Democrat, then she will be a shoo in to take on Sarah Palin (or someone else) in 2012 if McCain doesn’t seek a second term - or to take on McCain if he does.

I don’t know about Obama, he just might be that dumb, but Hillary sure isn’t.

[Rome2000]

Early voting starts today in Virginia, Kentucky and Georgia.

[M203M4]

Biden to drop out, citing (codename?) “drunk driver” (Ted Kennedy?). Biden replaced by Hillary Clinton, harbinger of food tasters and Obama parachute training.

But seriously. The rats would probably win under this scenario. Obama would not live to see 2010, leaving us with 6-8 years of Herr Cankliness pointing a crooked finger at the camera and laughing while wearing the sharpest pantsuit in Elton John’s wardrobe and stomping America under her shoes.

If it is any consolation, late-night entertainment will surge in comedic value. Tragicomic, but when life hands you lemons...

[ari-freedom]

imagine hillary as VP.

if obama loses then hillary is done as she didn’t do anything to help the ticket
if obama wins and is successful that’s 8 years of Obama.
if (more likely) he fails, the entire democrat party falls apart

[Sal]

Also, Hillary really doesn't have all that much experience. I discount her claim "I spent 8 years in the White House"...so did her pastry chef.

She and the pastry chef have in common that both can find a bathroom in the WH. The difference is the pastry chef has a useful skill.

[Betty Jane]

If Biden leaves for health reasons, than there will be blowback on Obama for not vetting him properly. We knew he’s had a brain aneurysm, why didn’t he? His inexperience will show in not knowing how to do a proper vetting.

[Notasoccermom]

Hillary would have more power remaining in the Senate. On the other hand the Pumas might be happy to see Obama crawling back to beg her to join the ticket. If it were to happen they could count on the media to spin Biden’s health so that everyone would wipe tears and spin Hillary’s saving the party by riding in on a white stallion. Of course the GOP could play all the sound bytes that had the media trashing Hillary in the primary along side the ones with her extolling her.

[ari-freedom]

If Obama wins and she’s not on the ticket, she only needs to wait until 2016, at the longest.

that’s a very long time. She’d be 68.

[STONEWALLS]

I don’t see this happening...there are some Dems old enough to remember the Eagleton screw up.

[Sal]

Besides which, isn't Biden up for reelection to the Senate? If he has to pull out of BamBam’s campaign for health reasons, how can he possibly still run on his own...

[P-Marlowe]

Who is Biden?

[SkyPilot]

Thanks.

That is the same Snopes link as I posted, but the title of that thread is made up. The title is "Ticket Exchange" and I did a search and there was no thread under that title posted.

[ModelBreaker]

“Early voting starts today in Virginia, Kentucky and Georgia.”

And FLA absentee’s are out. That means the ballot cannot be changed in two swing states. Obama wouldn’t risk it unless he knows the VA supremes are in the left’s pocket the way the FLA supremes are. The FLA supremes will do whatever is necessary to help the dems—extend deadlines, force the state to reprint the ballots, count votes for Obama/Biden as votes for Obama/HRC etc. But it’s not so clear in VA.

[ONEBYEONE]

So if this is really a “health” issue, he will also step down as Senator, right?

[mrsmel]

Well, they certainly won’t be able to throw that “political expediency” in our faces about Sarah Palin if they do switch. But I hope they don’t, it will hurt us big-time.

[ModelBreaker]

“If Biden leaves for health reasons, than there will be blowback on Obama for not vetting him properly.”

Silly rabbit. Only Republicans do not vet properly. For rats, it is an understandable mistake, not worthy of more than one night’s news cycle. In fact, it will probably turn out to prove that the rat learns from experience and is capable of forceful executive decision making.

[Izzy Dunne]

The only emails I get are from wealthy British expatriates in Dubai who are dying of esophageal cancer and want my help in getting their fortunes out of the country.

esophageal cancer? Hell, that's nothing compared to the "anal dwelling rebel Martians":

From: "MAJOR SIMON TIMOTHY" 
Date: July 7, 2008 3:25:22 PM EDT
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject:GREETTINGS TO YOU(VERY URGENT)
Reply-To: 

Hello
I pray that this email reaches you in the best of health. This letter may come 
to you as a surprise due to the fact that we have not yet met. The message could 
be strange but it's real and you will realize this if you pay some attention to it. 
I want to notify you about it at least for the sake of your integrity.
My name is Major Simon timothy, a direct and only remaining member of the
 wealthy Timothy's family. I am an astronaut with the Burkina Faso Air Force 
and on loan to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).

In 2003 I left earth aboard the Mars Rover, Spirit. Seven months later I arrived
 on Mars. Prior to departing earth, I deposited the amount of US$ 11,600,000 
(Eleven million, six hundred thousand United States dollars) in four safety
 galvanized boxes in a European financial institution which will be disclosed 
to you upon your acceptance of my proposal.

Last year, during the course of my research on Mars, I was ambushed by a 
group of anal dwelling rebel Martians who inflicted great torturous pain upon
 my body with anal probes. After a few weeks of enduring the physical pain, 
they released me. As a direct result of this cruelty, I am now very ill with a 
ruptured uterus that has defiled all forms of medical treatment and which has 
been deemed to be inoperable by my Martian surgeons. I am writing this mail
 to you on a laptop from my hospital bed in the Martian capital of Zhwrong.


I now have but a few weeks to live and I am far too ill to endure the long and 
arduous journey back to my Burkina Faso home. Therefore I have decided to 
donate the bulk of my fortune to a church or charitable organization that will 
utilize this money in the manner which I shall impart to you later. In return for
 your assistance, I shall authorize you to keep 30% of this fund for your trouble 
and aggravation plus an additional 10% to cover your expenses.
You should contact my attorney in Ouagadougou immediately with your address 
and Telephone number and he will give you his full contact information and 
guidance so that we can make arrangements as soon as possible.
CONTACT ADDRESS OF THE ATTORNEY.HON. BARRISTER GEORGE OVEREND CHAMBERS.
TELPHONE: TELL: +44702402xxxx:  FAX:+ 44870471xxxx E-MAIL: george.joverend@xxxxxxxx.ru
SINCERELY YOURS, MAJOR SIMON TIMOTHY, NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION
ELYSIUM VETERINARY INFIRMARY
ZHWRONG, MARSNANO.

[John Valentine]

She'd be 68...

Gives her gravitas...