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McCain shakes off GOP's anti-immigration right [cold shoulder to Barletta of Hazleton]
The Boston Globe - Political Intelligence ^ | 2008-09-22 | Sasha Issenberg

Posted on 09/22/2008 3:15:43 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

SCRANTON, Pa. -- During the Republican primaries, John McCain delicately balanced his record of pushing for immigration reform with satisfying his party's new appetite for harsher restrictions. Now in a general election against an opponent who broadly shares his views on the issue, McCain is showing greater ease asserting his distance from the anti-immigration right.

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On his Northeastern Pennsylvania trip, McCain pointedly denied coattails to a controversial immigration critic and congressional challenger who has become one of the best Republican prospects for a House pickup in a largely Democratic year.

Lou Barletta, the mayor of nearby Hazleton, became a favorite of the Lou Dobbs set for passing bills to declare English as the town's official language and forbid businesses from hiring or renting to illegal immigrants. Polls have shown him competitive with the district's longtime incumbent Paul Kanjorski, a success local operatives credit to the enduring power of anti-immigration politics in this largely working-class, white-ethnic district.

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1 posted on 09/22/2008 3:15:43 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 09/22/2008 3:16:05 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (No, no se puede, Juan! No to bailouts, no to amnesty, no to carbon credits, no to Big Government!)
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain wont win Pennsylvania now...how dare he diss Barletta

Maybe its time to dump McCain....Barletta/Palin or Palin/Barletta would be a sure winner


3 posted on 09/22/2008 3:17:34 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Main Street should not bail out Wall Street)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

That’s delusional.


4 posted on 09/22/2008 3:18:29 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

in 2012


5 posted on 09/22/2008 3:18:48 PM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Reason number 29 that I’m writing in Duncan Hunter.


6 posted on 09/22/2008 3:18:48 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: rabscuttle385

The just say no to Sarah Palin ping list rearing its head again?


7 posted on 09/22/2008 3:18:54 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: rabscuttle385

This is something we have been aware of for some time, McCain’s views on immigration. It’s nothing new really. The Boston Globe is just trying to stir things up.


8 posted on 09/22/2008 3:19:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac president... Obama the strychnine president...)
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To: rabscuttle385

Damn. Just... damn.


9 posted on 09/22/2008 3:20:31 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: rabscuttle385

John, you dumb ass old fart. Ya try to push this amnesty b.s. before the election and you will lose the conservative base.
I know I won’t vote for ya if ya do, I’ll sit out and start looking for a new CONSERVATIVE party and say to hell with the GOP.


10 posted on 09/22/2008 3:20:37 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: rabscuttle385

Tell me. Do you intentionally cherry pick the worst possible headlines to post?


11 posted on 09/22/2008 3:20:55 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: pissant

29? I can’t think of a single reason to do that.


12 posted on 09/22/2008 3:21:49 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: rabscuttle385
MeCain/Palin 2008
13 posted on 09/22/2008 3:22:22 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: rabscuttle385
His speech today at some Irish get together was much the same:
Noted border control then went on to how we need to create a path to citizenship (for illegals) "after meeting some requirements".

He's sure that Palin tied up the conservative vote for him.
Now he thinks it is safe to revert to his anti US pandering.

Time to reconsider a write in;
if he didn't learn from the last time, four more years won't help.

14 posted on 09/22/2008 3:22:38 PM PDT by norton
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To: rabscuttle385

If America isn’t worth protecting with a fence, why are Bush’s, McCain’s and Kennedies estates?


15 posted on 09/22/2008 3:24:53 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Welcome to The People's Republic of Wall Street.)
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To: Norman Bates
Mommy let you out of the cellar today, Norman???

Did you promise to stay away from those filthy, filthy girls??

16 posted on 09/22/2008 3:26:02 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Welcome to The People's Republic of Wall Street.)
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To: E. Cartman

Then you don’t have anything to say?


17 posted on 09/22/2008 3:28:18 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: norton
Now he thinks it is safe to revert to his anti US pandering.

Folks who think his pick of Palin means he's suddenly seen the light are badly mistaken. If he wins the election, until he dies, she'll spend her time fetching coffee and picking up his shirts from the cleaners.

18 posted on 09/22/2008 3:28:19 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Welcome to The People's Republic of Wall Street.)
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To: Norman Bates; E. Cartman
The just say no to Sarah Palin ping list rearing its head again?

Who said I was saying no to Palin?

19 posted on 09/22/2008 3:28:25 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (No, no se puede, Juan! No to bailouts, no to amnesty, no to carbon credits, no to Big Government!)
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To: E. Cartman

I suspect that Palin will be the first to go under the bus if McCain get himself in trouble.


20 posted on 09/22/2008 3:29:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: Norman Bates

Nah. I just made a note to myself to send the donation I was planning for this month’s RNC to Barletta. Maybe we all should. Any Penn person got an address handy?


21 posted on 09/22/2008 3:30:09 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: E. Cartman

Yes that’s why he referred to it as a national security issue first. McCain said secure the borders first. If he reneges on that I’ll eat crow and admit I was wrong. But until then...


22 posted on 09/22/2008 3:30:24 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: DoughtyOne

We’re stuck with McCain for this round if we want Sarah Palin for the future of OUR party (and it is OURS).

What we have to do is make it clear to the little jerk that if/when he trots this crap out as President, WE INITIATE IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS against him right away.

The Rats will be delighted to impeach him for any reason at all and we can pressure enough Republicans to go along with them.

Republicans know WHO is winning this race and it isn’t HIM. If they want to survive politically, they’ll have to go along.

If his latest gas bubble going off is just in answer to BamBam’s lying ad linking McCain/Limbaugh over immigration, then we can ignore it AS LONG AS HE KEEPS HIS TRAP SHUT about it in the WH. IMO.


23 posted on 09/22/2008 3:30:33 PM PDT by Sal (Pyrrhic Pooty just took Russia down to a 3rd class, 3rd world POS country that is dying.)
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To: Mamzelle

Letting emotion rule you is not a good move. Donate to Barletta. Good for you. But he’s already got a double digit lead.


24 posted on 09/22/2008 3:31:25 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: pissant
Go ahead....

Be a pissant as you call yourself.

Know this....we have very little chance of defeating socialism/marxism under a Obama regime...but we have "some" chance of defeating socialism/marxism under a McCain regime.

Am I happy about the choices? Damn straight..NO!!

I like you...you seem like a decent guy..and you are funny.

But these aren't "funny" times..........There is a bigger picture.

FWIW-

25 posted on 09/22/2008 3:33:53 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: rabscuttle385

It’s an all or nothing ticket. Go ahread and dump McCain under the bus. He showed extraordinary courage in picking Sarah. He will be a one term President, but you can’t even live with that to get Sarah. If McCain were such a terrible guy he would NOT have picked her.


26 posted on 09/22/2008 3:34:18 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: cripplecreek
I suspect that Palin will be the first to go under the bus if McCain get himself in trouble.

She will. She's the only thing keeping that ticket afloat, and someone as infantiley narcissistic as McQueeg can't have anyone outshining him.

The only thing sicker than McCain are the people who refuse to see what a tragically flawed figure he is. (Shakespeare couldn't have done better.)

27 posted on 09/22/2008 3:34:30 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Welcome to The People's Republic of Wall Street.)
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To: Osage Orange

Thank you. You are the first person on the thread to show some common sense. Let us not forget McCain said this was a national security issue first - i.e., he will secure the borders.


28 posted on 09/22/2008 3:35:37 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: E. Cartman

That’s deluded. If he were that narcissitic he WOULD NOT HAVE PICKED HER. (Duh.)


29 posted on 09/22/2008 3:36:19 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates
If he reneges on that I’ll eat crow and admit I was wrong. But until then...

McQueeg SAYS a lot of things. In fact, on a normal day he can be expected to publicly contradict himself several times.

I hope you like crow.

30 posted on 09/22/2008 3:36:38 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Welcome to The People's Republic of Wall Street.)
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To: cripplecreek
I suspect that Palin will be the first to go under the bus if McCain get himself in trouble.

Give me one "realistic" ( not MSM/DBM baloney...) scenario...that this might happen.

31 posted on 09/22/2008 3:36:48 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Norman Bates
He showed extraordinary courage in picking Sarah.

Who said that he picked Sarah?

It was an excellent political move on the part of his campaign, but his return to amnesty, to bailouts, and to praising liberal Democrats...is him flying his true colors again.

32 posted on 09/22/2008 3:36:53 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (No, no se puede, Juan! No to bailouts, no to amnesty, no to carbon credits, no to Big Government!)
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To: rabscuttle385

“McCain is showing greater ease asserting his distance from the anti-immigration right.”

I don’t think people are anti-immigration. People are against ILLEGAL immigration. Sheesh.


33 posted on 09/22/2008 3:38:36 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Norman Bates

http://www.rightwingwizkid.blogspot.com/


34 posted on 09/22/2008 3:38:40 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: rabscuttle385

Sheesh. Do you read? Do you listen? He did not say amnesty. He said “national security issue” first. That shows his priority.

McCain has been very reluctant to support any bailouts.

And yes he DID pick Palin. It was an excellent political move and it was HIS.


35 posted on 09/22/2008 3:38:56 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates
That’s deluded. If he were that narcissitic he WOULD NOT HAVE PICKED HER. (Duh.)

He's also a sociopath and so will have no hesitation against effectively jettisoning her when she's no longer of any use to him. Until then he'll be happy to tolerate her light outshining his.

(Wow, you're a lot slower than I suspected.)

36 posted on 09/22/2008 3:40:56 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Welcome to The People's Republic of Wall Street.)
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To: E. Cartman

Why would you actively campaign for Obama here?


37 posted on 09/22/2008 3:42:37 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Norman Bates
He did not say amnesty. He said “national security issue” first. That shows his priority.

Bovine excrement!

Do you not remember his comprehensive immigration reform bill? It was chock full of amnesty. And...encouraging millions of foreign nationals to violate U.S. law is not exactly conducive to maintaining our national security.

38 posted on 09/22/2008 3:44:22 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (No, no se puede, Juan! No to bailouts, no to amnesty, no to carbon credits, no to Big Government!)
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To: Osage Orange

I said in 2000 that I could never vote for McCain. I was thankful GWB beat him in the primary. What has transpired since? He got his 1st Amendment offensive passed in 2002. He has tried to take credit for the surge that Rumsfeld directed Petraeus to develop. And he almost got his amnesty plan passed. He teamed with Lieberman pushing gun control. He was leader of the Gang of 14. He voted yes on the ridiculous energy bill that outlaws incandescent lightbulbs. He completely went off the deep end on global warming. And he stood in the way of drilling in ANWR.

In other words, he has gone downhill.


39 posted on 09/22/2008 3:45:52 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: E. Cartman

“He’s also a sociopath”

Uh huh.

“Effectively jettisoning her”? She is elected in her own right. She is not an at-will appointee.

One thing you are is extremely cynical.


40 posted on 09/22/2008 3:46:28 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: pissant

“I said in 2000 that I could never vote for McCain. I was thankful GWB beat him in the primary. What has transpired since?”

Two attempts at what you call ‘amnesty’ by President Bush. Budget deficits. Decline of the dollar. What else?


41 posted on 09/22/2008 3:48:15 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Yes but I also remember it was made a LOT worse by about 19-20 egregious Democrat-pushed amendments. It turned out to be a terrible lot. I was very reluctant to support the bill in its original form - the form McCain proposed. Even I didn’t support it after the amendments.

Yes, he said CIR in PA today. But I trust that when he said national security and borders first he means it. He will deport criminal illegals. I take him at his word. There is no candidate I’ve ever supported who I agree with on everything and that includes John McCain. If I ever had supported Duncan Hunter it would’ve included him as well. And so on.


42 posted on 09/22/2008 3:52:31 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Sal

I agree that we are stuck with McCain, and thus McCain/Palin. For that reason I’m not out hawking anything other than for people to go ahead and do what they think they should. That being said, I won’t be voting for John. I have said for over a decade that I would never vote for him, and I never will.

As much as I hate what McCain intends to do, I don’t see it as an impeachable offense. If he can get enough members of Congress to vote for it, they won’t impeach him over it.

Our opportunity to block the likes of McCain came and left earlier this year when we failed to defeat him during the primary season. IMO he will be president, and will absolutely infuriate us often. None the less, many will defend him by reminding us we could have had Obama. There isn’t going to be much sanity over the next four years, as folks seek to justify their positions, no matter what John does to this nation.

The first 120 days of the McCain administration will see the dashing of my hopes for immigration control that I have held over the last 20 years. Illegal immigrants will be rewarded. Good standing citizens who have spent decades supporting this government through their taxes will be slandered in the process.

McCain won’t be keeping his trap shut on this topic. He has promised to spend his first 120 days in office opening it constantly to push through his massive population shifting political earthquake.

I believe him.

After January 20th, 2009, Sarah is just along for the ride IMO.


43 posted on 09/22/2008 3:52:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac president... Obama the strychnine president...)
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To: DoughtyOne

D1,Your post reads like that of an unbeliever.

Totally discounting what the Lord is doing is not a path to success.


44 posted on 09/22/2008 3:55:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( If Obama had Palin's resume and experience Obama would be qualified to be VP too.)
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To: pissant
I said in 2000 that I could never vote for McCain. I was thankful GWB beat him in the primary. What has transpired since? He got his 1st Amendment offensive passed in 2002. He has tried to take credit for the surge that Rumsfeld directed Petraeus to develop. And he almost got his amnesty plan passed. He teamed with Lieberman pushing gun control. He was leader of the Gang of 14. He voted yes on the ridiculous energy bill that outlaws incandescent lightbulbs. He completely went off the deep end on global warming. And he stood in the way of drilling in ANWR.

In other words, he has gone downhill.

I understand....but I will say again...

Know this....we have very little chance of defeating socialism/marxism under a Obama regime...but we have "some" chance of defeating socialism/marxism under a McCain regime.

Am I happy about the choices? Damn straight..NO!!

I am not happy about debating you on this....I'm as much a "FReeper" as you..

But I see no other viable choice at THIS point.

45 posted on 09/22/2008 3:56:37 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: rabscuttle385

One thing is absolutely certain, he did not want Palin or any of the other (R) candidates, he was hung up on Joe Lieberman till the very last hours. He was pushed into selecting Palin and because of his own manifest destiny complex he will resent it forever. I do not envy her in the least, being a consistent supporter of this Rino will take every bit of will power this strong willed woman can bring to bear. I would like to vote for McCain as I am afraid of Obama to the very core of my soul but every time I almost commit myself to that course he does something that demonstrates his unabashed incompetence in spades. The Andrew Cuomo comment is no small matter, Cuomo is the architect of the fiscal crisis we are in now. Letting Clinton and his administration off the hook by calling Cuomo anything other than a bumbling naive grifter is unforgivable in political terms. Then adding insult to injury is this foolishness about immigration. Multiculturalism does not work. No civilization can bear the cost of it no matter how great. Rome could not do it and we won’t be able to either.


46 posted on 09/22/2008 3:59:09 PM PDT by The Bishop
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To: Osage Orange

I don’t want to debate it either. But since you asked....


47 posted on 09/22/2008 4:01:48 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Osage Orange

>Know this....we have very little chance of defeating socialism/marxism under a Obama regime...but we have “some” chance of defeating socialism/marxism under a McCain regime.

I hear what you are saying. But I am not as sure as you. When socialism comes from a socialist, it’s all on the table — easier to fight it. Take a look at what is happening now with the bailout. BLATANT socialism, and the GOP for the most part is meekly going along with it. WE will pay a TRILLION to increase the government’s share of control over the private sector, so we get screwed twice: once where they rob us, another as government closes its meaty hands tighter over the free market’s windpipe.

If this bailout came from a Obama administration, we would be rightly fighting it as a communistic power grab.


48 posted on 09/22/2008 4:05:08 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: rabscuttle385
McShamnesty is out of touch with the American people. On amnesty he is McStupid!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

49 posted on 09/22/2008 4:05:23 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: DoughtyOne
Sorry, we don't know McCain's thoughts on "immigration". What we do know is that he wants to keep all the Mexicans who've managed to sneak in, and NONE OF THEM ARE IMMIGRANTS.

You must have an immigration visa to immigrate here. If you don't have such a visa you are, defacto, a non permanent visitor of some kind.

As far as I recall McCain has never said that he prefers or does not prefer educated Asians and Africans as immigrants.

50 posted on 09/22/2008 4:10:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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