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UPDATE: Father of man in Bonaire murder-suicide defected with MiG in Korean War (Mig-15 defector)
Macon Telegraph ^ | 09/23/08 | Gene Rector

Posted on 09/23/2008 6:09:54 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

UPDATE: Father of man in Bonaire murder-suicide defected with MiG in Korean War

By Gene Rector - grector@macon.com

September 21 was already a monumental day in the life of Ken Rowe. The first one, in 1953, was a happy - even glorious - occasion. The second is devastating.

Fifty-five years ago, Rowe - then known as North Korean Lt. No Kum-Sok - flew a Russian-made MIG 15 to Kimpo Air Base in South Korea, defecting from his Communist homeland and delivering a treasure trove of intelligence data to the U.S. and its allies.

Just three days ago, also on Sept 21, Rowe's son, Edmund, 42, apparently shot his wife, Allison, 35, then turned the .45 caliber revolver on himself, according to Houston County sheriff's investigators.

The couple, married just last May, were found dead Monday morning in their home at 308 George Francis Court, in a new subdivision off Ga. 96 in Houston County.

Sheriff's Sgt. Al Elvins said preliminary evidence indicates the two Robins Air Force Base employees died Sunday evening. What led to the shooting is not clear, the investigator added.

"We're still digging into it," Elvins said this afternoon. "We're conducting interviews to determine what might have caused it."

Rowe said he was so shocked he couldn't think straight. "It's a rough day," he said during a telephone interview from his Daytona Beach, Fla., home. "I thought everything was going well. That's what everybody else thought."

(Excerpt) Read more at macon.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defector; mig15; murdersuicide; nokumsok
I wonder where in U.S.A. he has been living. Sad to hear his family tragedy. Hope he can get through this.
1 posted on 09/23/2008 6:09:54 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/23/2008 6:10:23 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

On Chuck Yeager’s website there was the story of Yeager taking this MiG 15 for a test flight. It nearly killed him; apparently it was a very difficult plane to fly. The reason it was so maneuverable was that it was inherently unstable.


3 posted on 09/23/2008 6:15:03 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“I wonder where in U.S.A. he has been living. “

Daytona Beach, Fla, according to the article


4 posted on 09/23/2008 6:15:07 PM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists// Rove>Biden is a Big,Blowhard Dufus)
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To: FlyVet

Before my time but didn’t our F86s have a high kill ratio against the MiG 15?


5 posted on 09/23/2008 6:17:10 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: randomhero97
Yes, because of pilot training. The 86 was much tougher and could take hits, like most American fighters. It was faster in level flight, and could out-dive the 15 big-time. American pilots learn to take advantage of weaknesses. Stay away from close-in dogfights.

IIRC The MiG 17 was also a nasty dogfighter in Vietnam, but again our pilots learned to stay away from that, and use speed and superior diving to their advantage.

6 posted on 09/23/2008 6:22:27 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: randomhero97

Before my time but didn’t our F86s have a high kill ratio against the MiG 15? ........................... 10-1 ratio. We had a good share of WW II fighter pilots up there against a bunch of Russian honchos who were also veterans flying for the Chi Coms..


7 posted on 09/23/2008 6:23:34 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Drill and you will need Refineries, Facilities, Housing, Schools, Shopping Ctrs,etc. = The Economy!)
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To: FlyVet
Thanks.

Just like General Patton said: Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men.
8 posted on 09/23/2008 6:27:21 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: FlyVet

Very poor spin-recovery if I recall Yeager’s comments.


9 posted on 09/23/2008 6:34:36 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: randomhero97
No kidding. We beat German armor with sheer numbers, unfortunately. The Sherman tank had superior reliability, but was relatively cheap and mass-produced, because it had inferior armor, mediocre gun compared to the German 88, and a gasoline engine. It was nicknamed "the Ronson", because when it got hit in the fuel tank, it burst into flames.

An awful lot of tankers burned alive for this country over there.

Never Forget.

10 posted on 09/23/2008 6:35:43 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: nuconvert
I should have said, “I have been wondering...” :-)
11 posted on 09/23/2008 6:35:49 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: FlyVet

According to Zukov’s memoirs, the Soviets did not like the American tanks they got on lend lease. Claimed they did not start well in the cold weather.


12 posted on 09/23/2008 6:43:19 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Western Phil
Heh, that doesn't surprise me. Maybe they were GM or Chevy engines.

When I was stationed at Griffiss AFB in the early 90's I had a Dodge Dakota.

When it got down to -15 or so, my Dakota would fire right up (didn't know it when I bought it, but that thing would start no matter how cold it was).

But then I'd get to work, and our fleet of brand new Ford and Chevy six-pack pickups would balk. We had to wait until the temp got up around zero before they'd start. I imagine they have fixed that cold-weather start problem by now.

13 posted on 09/23/2008 6:48:52 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: FlyVet

“An awful lot of tankers burned alive for this country over there.”

And some survived even that. One of my great uncles, for one. They were a tough lot.


14 posted on 09/23/2008 6:57:28 PM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: FlyVet

According to Chuck, the MiG-15’s cockpit was not pressurized, and so when he took it up above 30,000 feet, its canopy frosted over on the inside and he couldn’t see where he was flying. Fortunately, the plane’s instruments worked, even though they were labeled in Korean/Russian.


15 posted on 09/23/2008 7:11:54 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

The MiG is on display at the Museum at Boeing Field in Seattle.I was there on a visit just a few weeks ago. Very sad for this man and his familly.


16 posted on 09/23/2008 8:41:03 PM PDT by madrastex
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To: FlyVet

Actually it was the vulnerability of the ammunition storage that was largely responsible for Shermans to brew up. Late in 1944, they finally produced Shermans that had wet storage reinforced ammo areas inside the tanks. With this improvement it gave the tankers a fighting chance from being burned to death.


17 posted on 09/23/2008 9:07:18 PM PDT by princeofdarkness (Ronald Reagan- "Trust But Verify" MSM- "Report, Lie, Then Crucify")
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To: Old Student

God bless your Uncle. I had an Uncle who spent the war on USS Enterprise. He was very proud of that, as am I. I think about him almost every day.


18 posted on 09/23/2008 9:09:20 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: princeofdarkness

Thanks for that information. I don’t think the gasoline helped much, though. It’s why the AF switched from JP4 (gasoline/kerosene mix) to JP8 (kerosene mix) on their combat aircraft. It doesn’t blow up so easily.


19 posted on 09/23/2008 9:12:28 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I don’t know what happened, but Edmund was a friend. He is missed.


20 posted on 09/23/2008 11:11:06 PM PDT by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: FlyVet
My great uncle (my grandma's brother) was a landing signalman aboard the USS Franklin ("Big Ben"). He was killed in a kamikaze strike on October 30, 1944, and was buried at sea.

The family took his loss hard, and still mourns for him today.

21 posted on 09/24/2008 3:17:51 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Adding my prayers to yours, that God will grant this family the strength to deal with this.

How sad, two lives gone.


22 posted on 09/27/2008 12:59:17 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: Tallguy
Very poor spin-recovery if I recall Yeager’s comments.

Seems to have recovered well enough for Yeager.

23 posted on 04/07/2009 7:39:50 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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