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Battleground Poll today McCain by 2 (48-46)
Real Clear Politics ^ | 9/23/08 | Realclearpolitics

Posted on 09/24/2008 6:09:14 AM PDT by IndianPrincessOK

General Election: McCain vs. Obama RCP Electoral Map | Changes in Electoral Count | Map With No Toss Ups | No Toss Up Changes Polling Data Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread RCP Average 09/17 - 09/23 -- 47.9 45.1 Obama +2.8

Battleground Tracking 09/17 - 09/23 800 LV 46 48 McCain +2

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; mccainobama; mccainpalin; polling
Battleground....POLL TODAY!!! McCain by 2 48-46
1 posted on 09/24/2008 6:09:14 AM PDT by IndianPrincessOK
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To: sarasota; Allegra

Ok, there you go MSM....this is TODAYS first polling....


2 posted on 09/24/2008 6:10:25 AM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (McCain/Palin...2 pit bulls, one with lipstick! Pigs will fly with lipstick Nov. 4th)
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To: IndianPrincessOK
The reverse of the ABC/Washington Post poll! Just don't look for this one to be headlined in the MSM!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 09/24/2008 6:10:37 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: IndianPrincessOK
That's amusing. I thought McCain was in the tank because of the economic strife?


4 posted on 09/24/2008 6:11:00 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: IndianPrincessOK

Is it time to panic yet?

:-)

Poll watching is bad for my health, yet I do it anyway.


5 posted on 09/24/2008 6:11:16 AM PDT by goodolemr
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To: IndianPrincessOK

So much for the ABC- Wash Compost PUSH POLL propaganda.
What drives me crazy is that the Compost races to get there lies out on the AP wire and resubmit it over and over again just like good Obama media whores.


6 posted on 09/24/2008 6:12:19 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: IndianPrincessOK

Wait a minute. That’s not fair. Everyone knows any legitimate poll needs to sample Dems at least 7% more than republicans. /s/


7 posted on 09/24/2008 6:12:33 AM PDT by 1curiousmind (Obama is Guilty FOR associating....with a domestic terrorist)
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To: IndianPrincessOK

B-b-b-but the Wapo/ABC poll says it is Barry Hussein 112%, McPalin 4%.

How can this be?


8 posted on 09/24/2008 6:12:45 AM PDT by Canedawg (Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain. -Winston Churchill)
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To: Nervous Tick
This is the first time McCain is leading since the GOP convention and since the Wall Street meltdown last week! Its within the MOE of course its more believable than the other poll. We'll see if there's any change over the next day heading into the first debate on Friday.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 09/24/2008 6:13:29 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: IndianPrincessOK

this company is a partnership of one republican pollster and one democrat and very well respected in the polling circles.

the wash poop/ abc poll is garbage (internals breakdowns are a fraud) and should be thrown under the bus.


10 posted on 09/24/2008 6:14:12 AM PDT by housedeep
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To: ncalburt

I agree. They have to create a perception that Obama is ahead, because he has no chance otherwise.


11 posted on 09/24/2008 6:14:24 AM PDT by Wilder Effect
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To: Canedawg
The MSM will ignore it. You know good news like this, by definition does NOT exist. They will say they're right and this is the outlier.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 09/24/2008 6:14:55 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: IndianPrincessOK

Please email this to Drudge Report to get that Wash Compost propaganda knocked off !


13 posted on 09/24/2008 6:15:25 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: goodolemr; Nervous Tick; goldstategop; IndianPrincessOK; LS; LdSentinal; Dog; kesg; jmaroneps37
Good. After all the hand wringing this poll presents a perfect opportunity for folks truly concerned about the future of our country to find a close Congressional race (or Senate or gubernatorial) to support, financially and/or by volunteering your time. This link highlights GOP House pick-up opportunities in PA and throughout the country, and includes campaign websites.
14 posted on 09/24/2008 6:15:55 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (On Free Republic PBD [political bipolar disorder] rules!)
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To: housedeep
Lake/Terrance has a very good reputation. They tell it like it is and seems to be on the money.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

15 posted on 09/24/2008 6:16:19 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

The ABC/WAPO poll was an outlier. I think a purposefully crafted one to drum up enthusiasm for Obama and deflate us in the McCain camp. This race is close but people DO NOT believe big government is the answer. That is why huge majority DOES NOT support the bailout plan. That should be a testament more than any other to why McCain should stand up against this. I’d recommend he head back to Washington. Sarah can handle the campaigning. She is tough and her favorability ratings are still higher than all the other candidates in the race. Let her prove her metal.


16 posted on 09/24/2008 6:17:00 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: IndianPrincessOK

This is good news, as most of the older polling data has worn off. All of the polls are pretty consistent in that it’s nearly exactly even... Even the ABC/WashPost poll, when adjusted for the same party weighting as Ras (39D/34R/27I), woykd show Zero up by 4, and when you see the internals, you’ll notice the indies are heavily weighted to D, as well, so that’s good for another 2 or so... That poll, if treated fairly, would have Zero up by 1 or 2, not the 9 they’re pushing.


17 posted on 09/24/2008 6:17:20 AM PDT by NYC Republican (Infuriate the MSM- vote for Palin/McCain)
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To: goldstategop
“The MSM will ignore it. You know good news like this, by definition does NOT exist. They will say they're right and this is the outlier.”

Hopefully by posting on FreeRepublic at least it stops us from having a heart attack today! Oh, and it should assure all of us that we are correct in the TRUE picture of this election...not one cooked by MSM. I will await to see the rest of the polls coming in. Have a feeling the Washington Post/ABC poll was anticipating this trend back to McCain and that is why their cooked up poll came in late yesterday. Not a good way to start the day...but this poll definitely is showing the MSM wrong!!!!!!

18 posted on 09/24/2008 6:18:17 AM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (McCain/Palin...2 pit bulls, one with lipstick! Pigs will fly with lipstick Nov. 4th)
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To: IndianPrincessOK

So much for the WA Post/ABC Poll.


19 posted on 09/24/2008 6:19:11 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Maelstorm
If you did nothing else here, but apply Ras' percentages (R34/D39/I27), then the numbers are 49%-45%... Also, if you look at the underlying internals, most of the indies are lefty leaning, so that's good for another 1 or 2%... So, that brings us to nearly a tie...

I'm not too bent out of shape on the poll numbers, per se, cause they don't tell the whole story; however, the MSM is clearly trying to create an air of invincibility for Zero

The silver lining is... if McCain can take command in the debates, the next poll could show a huge swing towards McCain, and a Momentum shift.

20 posted on 09/24/2008 6:19:22 AM PDT by NYC Republican (Infuriate the MSM- vote for Palin/McCain)
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To: Nervous Tick

Voters this year say the economy is the number 1 issue. What liberal Democrats don’t get is, when voters say the economy is the most important issue, what they are actually saying is, “I don’t want to pay any more in taxes.” When they see the government bailing people out like a drunken sailor, they are giong to go with the guy they perceive favors lower taxes.


21 posted on 09/24/2008 6:22:21 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (You can put lipstick on a donkey, but it's still just a jackass.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Voters this year say the economy is the number 1 issue. What liberal Democrats don’t get is, when voters say the economy is the most important issue, what they are actually saying is, “I don’t want to pay any more in taxes.” When they see the government bailing people out like a drunken sailor, they are giong to go with the guy they perceive favors lower taxes.


22 posted on 09/24/2008 6:22:26 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (You can put lipstick on a donkey, but it's still just a jackass.)
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To: NYC Republican

My guess is Rasmussen’s weightings underestimate GOP turnout. Of late, with micro-targeting, GOP turnout has been more like 36-37%, and I expect it to be even higher this year.


23 posted on 09/24/2008 6:23:32 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (You can put lipstick on a donkey, but it's still just a jackass.)
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To: Nervous Tick

People do not support the Bailout and the Bailout is the essence of BIG GOVERNMENT. Obama is BIG GOVERNMENT. McCain needs to oppose the bailout and put out his own conservative reform plan and go head to head on this issue. He had a good plan in 2005 and there is no reason why he shouldn’t push for similar legislation. I don’t know why we need this huge bailout. Targeted government loans to banks that are able to marshal a degree of outside support and meet certain standards should be considered. The problem of turning all the bad loans over to government administration is a nightmare. This think has the potential to balloon out of control and there is a good chance many banks will see this as an opportunity to return to granting the same easy high risk credit that got them into this mess. The difference is this time they would have the government even more as their personal piggy bank. It was Freddie and Fannie’s willingness to buy up subprime loans that caused this mess in the first place. So now we are going to buy up all subprime loans?

These are supposed to be financial geniuses? I’m telling you it is the liberals who throw money at problems. Let’s have a real reform solution not just throw money at this and socialize the problem.


24 posted on 09/24/2008 6:25:36 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: goldstategop

Yes, they do have a very good reputation.


25 posted on 09/24/2008 6:26:11 AM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: IndianPrincessOK

Nice way to start the day! And it’s only going to get better.


26 posted on 09/24/2008 6:27:41 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Thane_Banquo
Ramussen has Obama up by 2+ this morning. His once decisive bump has disappeared.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

27 posted on 09/24/2008 6:39:45 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: sarasota

Hey DRUDGE - post the damn poll and refute the WAsh Compost wet dream poll.


28 posted on 09/24/2008 6:40:13 AM PDT by libscum (don't sit out- vote Mccain)
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To: Maelstorm

the ABC poll apparently added 15% extra black people to “balance” their poll.

remember 95% does not indicate racism in voters...not.


29 posted on 09/24/2008 6:40:42 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Norman Bates

ping


30 posted on 09/24/2008 6:41:00 AM PDT by KansasGirl (READ MY LIPSTICK!!!)
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To: goldstategop; IndianPrincessOK
This is the first time McCain is leading since the GOP convention

McCain led by two in yesterday's Battleground poll.

31 posted on 09/24/2008 6:44:07 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (On Free Republic PBD [political bipolar disorder] rules!)
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To: libscum

does drudge still have his “tip box” on his page?

you can tell him there.


32 posted on 09/24/2008 6:51:06 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: IndianPrincessOK

The Announcements sidebar is reserved for FR business. Please quit abusing it.


33 posted on 09/24/2008 6:56:42 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Wilder Effect
The Compost and ABC are experts at Dem party and Obama propaganda .
My favorite Compost Dem party operative story was when there reporter Johnny Weismann was caught secretly attending these Dem Party seminars for new Dem Congressional aides about how to ram thru radical left wing legislation after the 2006 election. I sent Johnny a blistering Email and I noticed the Compost stopped publishing there reporters email addresses after that !
Some shock ,this Dem party newsletter is now peddling Push Polls for Obama.b
34 posted on 09/24/2008 7:04:14 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: NYC Republican
I'm not too bent out of shape on the poll numbers... however, the MSM is clearly trying to create an air of invincibility for Zero

Well, they're not doing a very good job. Tied nationally, and McCain is tied or leading slightly electorally. And something I don't think they can get back is the conservative surge in enthusiasm put in place a bit by McCain fighting back hard, but mostly by his selection of Gov. Palin. The Dems are in trouble, and they know it.

They were hoping for a repeat in 2006 turnout. Now they're scared to death of a 2004 turnout. You'll remember the libs were fired up and Dems turned out like they never had before, giving a North Vietnamese hero the second largest number of votes in Presidential history. Unfortunately the media's abhorrent behavior back then truly pissed off the conservative base, so that we became broken-glass voters and President Bush won by over three million votes.

Heck, even the Natl Republican Senatorial Committee outraised its Dem counterpart by about a million last month. And the Senate Pubbies are seriously swimming upstream. So I'm sure House and gubernatorial candidates in competitive races are seeing the benefits of this past month as far as fundraising and the surge in volunteers.

35 posted on 09/24/2008 7:06:23 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (On Free Republic PBD [political bipolar disorder] rules!)
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To: longtermmemmory

I think they should underweight Black people because of where they live. Alabama will go Republican in spite of heavy Black turnout and Maryland or New York will go Dem in spite of heavy Black turnout. I’d say 65% of the Black vote is moot because they live in states that always go the same way in the Electoral College regardless of how the Blacks vote.


36 posted on 09/24/2008 7:11:53 AM PDT by nailspitter
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To: Maelstorm

It wasn’t an “outlier.” It was fraud, plain and simple. 38% Dems, 28% Republicans, and heavily oversampled blacks. Are you kidding? It’s outrageous that anyone would publish it, let alone publicize it.


37 posted on 09/24/2008 7:12:07 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: IndianPrincessOK

“Hopefully by posting on FreeRepublic at least it stops us from having a heart attack today! Oh, and it should assure all of us that we are correct in the TRUE picture of this election...not one cooked by MSM.”

***
Must ever bear in mind that
most polls harbor 4 systematic flaws:

1. Overweighting Party ID;
2. RVs not as reliable as LVs;
3. Respondents not wanting pollsters to think they’re “racist” (Bradley effect);
4. Non-citizens ... multiple voters ... and the dead are not polled - but do vote.

Each might account for a 2 to 4 point swing.
Only the last one favors Dems.

Therefore, add anywhere from 4 to 8 points for McPalin
to get a truer reading.


38 posted on 09/24/2008 7:21:06 AM PDT by Eleutherios (The All-American Team vs. The Teleprompter Kid)
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To: Eleutherios

Is this why Rush has been saying that Obama must lead by 10 in the polls in order to win?


39 posted on 09/24/2008 8:02:22 AM PDT by HOYA97 (Hoya Saxa = What Rocks)
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To: goodolemr
Poll watching is bad for my health, yet I do it anyway.

Yeah, I agree. It's like a fat girl dancing naked. You hate yourself for watching but can't turn away.

40 posted on 09/24/2008 8:23:07 AM PDT by manic4organic (Obama/Biden Palin comparison.)
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