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DRUDGE SOURCE: House Republicans met in am: Just 4 members support Paulson plan...
Drudge Report ^ | September 24, 2008 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 09/24/2008 1:57:04 PM PDT by counterpunch

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To: pctech
Pence is a true gentleman, an honest politician, and a very devout christian man. He could be the 2nd coming of Ronald Reagan if he could gain the momentum needed to get the GOP nod in 2012.
I'd settle for the 2nd coming of Newt Gingrich in 2009.
Mike Pence should begin a new “Contract for the 21st Century” this October.
 
141 posted on 09/24/2008 5:25:04 PM PDT by counterpunch (Jim Jones was a Community Organizer)
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To: counterpunch
Instead, how about a $700 billion tax break on paying off the principle of existing homes with sub-prime mortgages. Make make it dependent on maintaining an acceptable debt/income ratio each year so that the tax break doesn't go to something like a new boat.

How about also applying the tax break to the principle of already foreclosed homes purchased for the next year or two. That should get the market moving again!

Better yet, make it $600 billion, and campaign on having saved the rest.

142 posted on 09/24/2008 5:25:20 PM PDT by elfman2 (TheRightReasons.net - Reasoning CONSERVATIVES without the kooks.)
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To: LS
"I don't see how we get out of this without either a financial meltdown or a political meltdown. We get one or the other.

LS, It just take a little imagination. If #142 isn't a good alternative, something like that is.

143 posted on 09/24/2008 5:33:50 PM PDT by elfman2 (TheRightReasons.net - Reasoning CONSERVATIVES without the kooks.)
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To: counterpunch

I hope you all know that if this is not done within a few days that the entire world’s economy will stop.

You won’t be able to get any money out of the bank. Your credit cards will not work. Your ATM will not work. The paycheck that you expected will not be cut.

You think I am kidding? You better go stock up on some food while the system is still up.

Having said that, I say let it crash. While it will mean starting all over and probably 10 years of hell it is the only way we will get rid of government and the only way we will get to where we only spend what we take in.

Kids born 25 years from now will be much better off if we deal with this now. I just don’t think people understand what this is going to be like and what the sacrifices will be.

John


144 posted on 09/24/2008 5:48:48 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: Diggity

I posted it earlier, I didn’t like what I was typing, but the only course of action that will save the economy is showing the money. As much as I wish things were different we must cough it up now. McCain will push for this and we must be behind him!

Go John McCain!!!


145 posted on 09/24/2008 5:57:07 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: counterpunch

I’d go for that. Heck, I’d even work for the GOP if they would do that again. Gingrich and Pence would be great together.


146 posted on 09/24/2008 6:02:48 PM PDT by pctech
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To: counterpunch

This is just like the last amnesty scam. We weren’t told until it was “a done deal”, but that changed when Congressmen started getting their butts handed to them by the public.


147 posted on 09/24/2008 6:03:12 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberals: can't live with them, can't ship them to Syria.)
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To: Diggity

Before D.C. Gets Our Money, It Owes Us Some Answers [Newt Gingrich]

John Boner, is that you?
 
148 posted on 09/24/2008 6:06:35 PM PDT by counterpunch (Jim Jones was a Community Organizer)
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To: elfman2
Good idea, but it won't happen and it's not even on the table.

So let's deal in the realm of the realistic. As of now, the very best outcome we can hope for is

1) The bailout of mortgagees is killed, or greatly adumbrated.

2) The markets shake this off and begin to quietly process SOME of the debt, little by little.

3) The U.S. economy begins to grow again, realizing that we can literally outgrow most problems.

149 posted on 09/24/2008 6:08:42 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: rwfromkansas

“We do not support government bailouts of private institutions. “

“The problem is, we have some govt. institutions in effect here.

So, they aren’t quite going against the statement.”

They aren’t only planning to bail out the GSEs. FedGov already bailed out Fannie and Freddy a few weeks ago to the tune of billions. This is bailing out large private institutions which speculated in credit derivatives, something the Republican Party explicitly pledged NOT to do as recently as this month.

The Pubbies and their apologists can cavil all they want, but this albatross will be hung, by the press and the Dems, around the Pubbies’ necks as the mother of all flip flops.


150 posted on 09/24/2008 6:46:07 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: ilgipper
come out with a bold free market version

Like what?

151 posted on 09/24/2008 6:50:29 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
There are some good people, (Kudlow, Cramer, and Forbes for instance) that support this plan.

2 more reasons to oppose this Billionaire Bailout Bonanza.

152 posted on 09/24/2008 6:51:31 PM PDT by adm5 (WE HAVE TO STOP THE PAULSON BAILOUT SCHEME!)
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To: untrained skeptic
He's entering into a fight where the Democrats have far too much control of the rules, and all they have to do is delay while Obama campaigns and McCain doesn't.

McCain is so used to working with the Dems to pass their legislation that he's forgotten they are now on opposite sides.
153 posted on 09/24/2008 6:54:03 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Abolish the Federal Reserve.

adm5 (2008)


154 posted on 09/24/2008 6:54:30 PM PDT by adm5 (WE HAVE TO STOP THE PAULSON BAILOUT SCHEME!)
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To: LS
At any rate, you cannot have 536 people of power in Washington stand around and say, "let the market work." In this day and age, it just isn't realistic.

Especially when it's decades of market manipulation that have caused this fiasco.
155 posted on 09/24/2008 6:56:40 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: mountaineer1997
The best idea I’ve seen is for him to play the MAVERICK card, refuse the bailout, and identify it as the BUSH-NOBAMA plan of business as usual with the taxpayers picking up the tab.

That sounds like a winning scenario.
156 posted on 09/24/2008 6:58:35 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: LS
Good idea, but it won't happen and it's not even on the table. So let's deal in the realm of the realistic...

I understand your frustration, but if suggesting a good idea that should be or could be on the table is beyond the scope of realistic discussion, then most everything done here beyond spectating is unrealistic.

157 posted on 09/24/2008 6:59:19 PM PDT by elfman2 (TheRightReasons.net - Reasoning CONSERVATIVES without the kooks.)
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To: LS

Agree 100%.


158 posted on 09/24/2008 7:00:34 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: untrained skeptic

> Democrats have little incentive to work with Republicans to come up with a more acceptable plan when stalling makes McCain look ineffective.

I’m thinking what you’re thinking. I think Mac has painted himself into a corner, and the RATs will just hang him out to dry (to mix a few metaphors).


159 posted on 09/24/2008 7:13:41 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: elfman2
No, there are political realities that suggest that extremely radical ideas---no matter how good---aren't going to get in the mix by this time of the debate. To muster a majority on congress now to get behind some of these types of things would not only be impossible, but it would certainly take away from what few incremental real "fixes" that still can be made.

Because understand this: the other side knows EXACTLY what they want to accomplish, and any wasted effort or diffusion of energy at all is going to result in them getting everything.

160 posted on 09/24/2008 7:16:03 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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