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Train Victim's Cell Kept Calling Loved Ones After He Died
KTLA.com ^ | 17 Sep 08 | KTLA News

Posted on 09/24/2008 7:28:21 PM PDT by CurlyBill

Train Victim's Cell Kept Calling Loved Ones After He Died


September 17, 2008

SIMI VALLEY -- One local family whose loved one died in the Metrolink collision is still questioning something that happened that night.

They got several phone calls from 49-year-old Chuck Peck after the crash. But they now know he died on impact.

Peck's fiancee, Andrea Katz, told KTLA that the first call was to his son in Utah.

"...and he said my dad just called me and I said, what did he say? Is he okay? Where is he? He didn't say anything, the phone rang and it said dad," Peck's fiance Andrea Katz told KTLA.

As firefighters worked to rescue survivors, family members said Peck's cell phone kept calling his son, his brother, his stepmother, his sister and his fiancee.

But when they answered all they heard was static.

And when family members called back, the calls went straight to voice mail.

In all, family members say they received about 35 calls from Peck's cell phone through the night.

Nearly five hours after the crash at 9:08 p.m., Katz received a call.

"We were yelling in the phone, hang in there baby. We're gonna get you out. You're gonna be okay," Katz said.

When the rescue efforts turned to recovery, there was another call, which prompted search crews to trace it. They realized it was coming from the first train so they went back in one last time.

"And they were so excited they had this incredible adrenaline rush at thought that they could possibly go find another survivor... we gave her a description and they spent the next couple of hours looking for him and they did end up finding him and they said that he had died immediately on impact and there was no way he could have been calling us," Katz said.

The calls stopped at 3:28 a.m., about an hour before Peck's body was found.

Katz said the phone calls helped the family get through the night.

"The intellectual side of my brain thinks gee, it was a computer malfunction and then the emotional side of my brain, it was just Chuck letting us know that he knew that we were scared for him and letting us have hope."

Katz said she also finds comfort in knowing she and Peck were happy and that he didn't suffer in the end.

"He died instantly and he didn't suffer and when you love somebody you couldn't ask for a better way for them to leave this life, just happy and excited and didn't see it coming."

Investigators said they may never know how those calls were made because Peck's phone was never found.

They also say his body showed no sign that he lived even for a short time after the crash


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: afterlife; ghost; ghostinthemachine; haunted; paranormal
Thanks to Retrokitten for this!!!
1 posted on 09/24/2008 7:28:22 PM PDT by CurlyBill
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To: Prime Choice; The Great RJ; Ciexyz; B4Ranch; johnny7; Monty22; Badeye; Sam's Army; Viking2002; ...

Ghost Ping!!! Thanks to retrokitten for this!! My apologies for the lack of pings lately. I’m coaching two ice hockey teams again and things have been mind boggling at work. I will get back to it soon!!


2 posted on 09/24/2008 7:31:32 PM PDT by CurlyBill (Barak Obama wants Dhimmitude for America)
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To: CurlyBill

Eerie stuff.


3 posted on 09/24/2008 7:36:45 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Went to sleep with Palin - woke up next to McCain...)
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To: CurlyBill

I got a call from my daughters phone and heard only muffled voices. I had seen this story and was freaked out. Turns out she was trying to turn her phone off and put it in her purse


4 posted on 09/24/2008 7:40:12 PM PDT by UB355 ( Slower traffic keep right)
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To: CurlyBill

I’m thinking a chip malfunction on the phone caused by the impact or some sorry sob who thinks it’s fun to torment people...


5 posted on 09/24/2008 7:41:29 PM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: Old Sarge

Yep... they can scientifically substantiate the time of the crash and the time of the calls. The forensic pathologist knows how long he would live given his injuries. This is pretty eerie. There would still be a record of the calls. All science and no silly psychics...


6 posted on 09/24/2008 7:42:24 PM PDT by CurlyBill (Barak Obama wants Dhimmitude for America)
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To: CurlyBill

Yes, fascinating post and I do expect there is far more out there then we know or understand.


7 posted on 09/24/2008 7:42:58 PM PDT by mcshot (Bitterly Loving God, Family, and Guns more then ever. And greatly missing President Reagan)
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To: Old Sarge

no, it is evidence that there is more to this life than our flesh and bones. There is an afterlife and we do continue pass the transition called death. I have seen it in my life. Messages from the beyond and they are so much alike: “I’m OK, everything is all right.” This is the stuff of hope. The love we have for others goes beyond this life and continues on.


8 posted on 09/24/2008 7:44:04 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: CurlyBill

What I found the most eerie was that they couldn’t find the phone. True it could have been some kind of malfunction that caused his phone to call his directory, but why only family members? Most people have at least a couple non-relatives in their phone list.


9 posted on 09/24/2008 7:47:33 PM PDT by retrokitten (Come back, Agent Frowny!)
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To: retrokitten

Good point! I wonder if the order of the calls was significant as well... I’ve never heard of anything like this before.


10 posted on 09/24/2008 7:49:30 PM PDT by CurlyBill (Barak Obama wants Dhimmitude for America)
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To: shibumi

Ghost-In-The-Machine ping.


11 posted on 09/24/2008 8:00:12 PM PDT by Salamander (Stop the destruction of America! McCain/Palin 08!)
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To: CurlyBill
Reminds me of the phone calls for help from the Nursing Home in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina. The Official of the South Ward was on Meet the Press, with Tim Russert and told the story of how they kept receiving the calls and pleas for help, yet each day, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, despite the rescuers best efforts, they could not get to the victims. He broke down on the air. “There weren't nobody coming...” In the hours after his appearance, he was challenged as to the truth of the story, because the residents of the Nursing Home were among the first victims of the storm.
12 posted on 09/24/2008 8:05:08 PM PDT by JOLLYDODGER (John McCain - Independence from foreign oil.)
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To: CurlyBill

Wow.


13 posted on 09/24/2008 8:06:48 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: CurlyBill

Can you program a cell phone to dial numbers in series? Will it do this if a certain button is held down? What model phone did he have? If the phone got turned on by impact, could impact damage result in this?


14 posted on 09/24/2008 8:07:00 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Forgot to add that if that cell phone could be programmed to dial numbers in a series, he may have planned the crash and before impact, turned on the phone and put it in a shielded location.


15 posted on 09/24/2008 8:09:16 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: CurlyBill

Amazing story...this is one of those things that, if ivestigated, will most likely have a rational explanation...but the timing, the events, and the fact that his body was one of the last found is just incredible...


16 posted on 09/24/2008 8:12:00 PM PDT by Ronzo (Poetry can be a better tool of understanding than tedious scribblings of winners of the Noble Prize)
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To: CurlyBill

The cell phone was not found. Perhaps someone found the phone and hit the speed dial numbers.


17 posted on 09/24/2008 8:12:32 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
...he may have planned the crash and before impact, turned on the phone and put it in a shielded location.

You.
Bong.
Step away.

18 posted on 09/24/2008 8:15:47 PM PDT by SquirrelKing
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To: CurlyBill

Fascinating...having experienced some inexplicable things myself, I really enjoyed this article.


19 posted on 09/24/2008 8:27:46 PM PDT by thatdewd
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To: wintertime

When I read this I wondered if another victim could have made contact with his phone and tried to push buttons for help.


20 posted on 09/24/2008 8:28:08 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Here’s my story. On July 22nd three stents were placed in my artery. On July 26th I had congestive heart failure.

My wife rode in the front of the ambulance. When we got to the hospital the paramedic yelled for the driver to get back there! She slapped a pad on each side of my chect and the driver grabbed the paddles. I felt myself dieing.

My wife had gotten out and was standing at the rear of the ambulance. I looked at her through the back window of the ambulance and said, “Jesus, take care of her.” I then said, “Jesus, take me.” The pain went away and there was no sound. I looked at my wife and I was looking through a circle, a ring of white mist. I’ve never seen anything so vividly clear. Talk about Hi-Def!

I felt myself take my last breath and let it out. I waited for what was to happen next. What happened was the pain came back with a vengeance. I looked up at the paramedic, placed my hand on her arm and said, “I’m back.”

She yelled to the driver, “Get the door!” and they wheeled me into the emergency room.

I didn’t go down the tunnel but I saw the entrance. So, do I think this story about a cell phone is science? No way! It was from the other side.


21 posted on 09/24/2008 8:30:30 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Here’s my story. On July 22nd three stents were placed in my artery. On July 26th I had congestive heart failure.

My wife rode in the front of the ambulance. When we got to the hospital the paramedic yelled for the driver to get back there! She slapped a pad on each side of my chect and the driver grabbed the paddles. I felt myself dieing.

My wife had gotten out and was standing at the rear of the ambulance. I looked at her through the back window of the ambulance and said, “Jesus, take care of her.” I then said, “Jesus, take me.” The pain went away and there was no sound. I looked at my wife and I was looking through a circle, a ring of white mist. I’ve never seen anything so vividly clear. Talk about Hi-Def!

I felt myself take my last breath and let it out. I waited for what was to happen next. What happened was the pain came back with a vengeance. I looked up at the paramedic, placed my hand on her arm and said, “I’m back.”

She yelled to the driver, “Get the door!” and they wheeled me into the emergency room.

I didn’t go down the tunnel but I saw the entrance. So, do I think this story about a cell phone is science? No way! It was from the other side.


22 posted on 09/24/2008 8:30:30 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Terry Mross

Dude! A guy with the same name as you posted the EXACT SAME STORY! That’s Spooky!


23 posted on 09/24/2008 8:32:26 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: SquirrelKing

Someone call Art Bell!


24 posted on 09/24/2008 8:43:07 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ( "The carnage of the free love generation has come home to roost.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

What’s really weird is a double-post with the EXACT same time stamp - right down to the SECONDS. I’ve never seen that happen here before.


25 posted on 09/24/2008 8:44:01 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Terry Mross

That raised the hair on the back of my neck!


26 posted on 09/24/2008 8:44:34 PM PDT by rdl6989 (What isn't above Obama's pay grade?)
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To: CurlyBill
The keyboard electronics were probably smashed or wet and the phone kept dialing out to all the numbers 1-9 in his phone book.

Mine did that once. It was a Motorola V3c. It got wet.

27 posted on 09/24/2008 8:48:33 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Well....................................That's .....that.........)
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To: CurlyBill

I read a very intriguing book earlier this year titled “Will Storr vs. the Supernatural”, where a young British journalist, as named in the title, decides to investigate the paranormal for himself.

He relates a very compelling set of experiences he has along the way and notes certain patterns that seem to recur across different manifestations. One of them is that the phenomena seem to occur around 3:30 am. Note the time in the article at which the phone calls ceased.

FWIW, Will Storr commenced his project as a skeptic and emerged from it as something else, just as Nora Blum did when she researched and wrote her book “The Ghost Hunters”.


28 posted on 09/24/2008 8:54:56 PM PDT by KamperKen
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To: CurlyBill

Bump and bookmark


29 posted on 09/24/2008 8:58:41 PM PDT by angelsonmyside
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To: CurlyBill

Sometimes my work Blackberry calls people from my purse, it somehow latches on to either the contacts list or calls I’ve made and calls the numbers back. It must be from getting jostled around. My friends or colleagues will get a call and here background noises, or me talking to someone else in person. Weird. I also had to disable the function that assigns shortcut keys to people’s names, as just hitting one key would instigate a call. Still, the calls from the train are very stramge, indeed.


30 posted on 09/24/2008 9:11:42 PM PDT by Mjaye
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To: CurlyBill

Eerie. I wonder where the phone is now.


31 posted on 09/24/2008 9:15:49 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Mjaye
Motorola phones use speed dial as the default setting, and each key number is linked to your contacts in numerical order. Wet or short the key board, and it dials out the contact list one after the other.

No mystery here. Just complicated electronics that do not like water or fire foams. Wet three numbers and it dial three contacts in what ever order you have them in. Wet 6...Wet 9 or all.

32 posted on 09/24/2008 9:17:31 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Well....................................That's .....that.........)
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To: Cold Heat

Very interesting. In my case, the phone wasn’t wet, but the train victim’s phone surely could have been exposed to foam or chemicals or water. Still, the family derives some comfort from the calls, so they will believe it was meant to be.


33 posted on 09/24/2008 9:28:56 PM PDT by Mjaye
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
Forgot to add that if that cell phone could be programmed to dial numbers in a series, he may have planned the crash and before impact, turned on the phone and put it in a shielded location.

You might want to up your lithium dose.

34 posted on 09/24/2008 9:47:26 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: CurlyBill
When the rescue efforts turned to recovery, there was another call, which prompted search crews to trace it. They realized it was coming from the first train so they went back in one last time.

They traced the call to the first train but never found the phone. Interesting.

35 posted on 09/24/2008 10:24:10 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: CurlyBill

Anyone interested in this sort of thing might enjoy a book entitled “Hello From Heaven!” by Bill and Judy Guggenheim. The title is admittedly cheesy and commercial, but was probably the publisher’s idea; it’s actually a scholarly study of substantiated afterlife communications to loved ones left behind by the deceased. I’m not a reader of cheesy stuff, but I picked up a copy at the bookstore on a whim and started paging through, then couldn’t put it down and bought it. Worth a read.


36 posted on 09/24/2008 10:32:41 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: CurlyBill

“Night Call”
The Twilight Zone episode

A broken telephone wire, hanging on the grave of Elva Keene’s deceased fiancé.

Episode no. Season 5
Episode 139
Written by Richard Matheson

(From his story “Long distance call” originally published in Alone by Night 1961.)

Directed by Jacques Tourneur

Guest stars Gladys Cooper : Elva Keene
Nora Marlowe : Margaret Phillips

Original airdate February 7, 1964

Opening narration

“ Miss Elva Keene lives alone on the outskirts of London Flats, a tiny rural community in Maine. Up until now, the pattern of Miss Keene’s existence has been that of lying in her bed or sitting in her wheelchair reading books, listening to a radio, eating, napping, taking medication—and waiting for something different to happen. Miss Keene doesn’t know it yet, but her period of waiting has just ended, for something different is about to happen to her, has in fact already begun to happen, via two most unaccountable telephone calls in the middle of a stormy night, telephone calls routed directly through—the Twilight Zone ”

Synopsis

An elderly, wheelchair-bound lady named Elva Keene receives strange anonymous phone calls. At first the caller says nothing, and all that can be heard is static. In subsequent calls, he can be heard moaning. After several calls, Elva says repeatedly, “Hello? Hello?” The caller finally says slowly, garbled, and weakly, “Hello?”. Elva demands to know who is calling, but the only response is “Hello?” Finally the caller manages to get out the words, “Where are you? I want to talk to you.”

Elva has had enough and screams at the man to leave her alone. There are no more calls and the phone company traces the source to a fallen telephone line.

Elva and her housekeeper visit the location of the line given by the telephone operator. To the astonishment of both, they find themselves at a cemetery, and they find that the line is resting on the grave of Elva’s long-deceased fiancé, Brian Douglas. Elva says that she always insisted upon having her own way, and Brian always did what she said. A week before they were to be married, she insisted upon driving, and lost control of the car. The accident left Brian dead, and she, a lonely cripple. Now she can talk to him again, she won’t have to be alone.

At home, she picks up the phone and calls out to Brian. She pleads with him to answer so that she can talk to him. He replies that she has told him to leave her alone, and that he always does what she says. Then the line goes dead, leaving Elva alone and crying in her bed.

Closing narration

“ According to the Bible, God created the heavens and the Earth. It is man’s prerogative—and woman’s—to create their own particular and private hell. Case in point, Miss Elva Keene, who in every sense has made her own bed and now must lie in it; sadder, but wiser, by dint of a rather painful lesson in responsibility, transmitted from the Twilight Zone.


37 posted on 09/24/2008 11:28:05 PM PDT by lowbridge (Biden is an expert on almost every subject that has ever come before the Congress. -Linda Douglass)
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To: Terry Mross

My husband had 2 stents put in his arteries once and then about 2 years later he had to have 2 more but each time they had to cut and go through the main artery in the groin. He had a huge tube in the artery that had to stay there for at least 12 hours so he had to stay in the hospital for at least 48 hours. They said he had to stay flat on his back because he would start bleeding and would bleed out fast. I remember it so well. The second 2 stents were put in September 11, 2001. He was in surgery when the planes hit the WTC.


38 posted on 09/24/2008 11:55:29 PM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: lowbridge

I saw that episode not long ago. It was interesting seeing how things were back in the early 60s.


39 posted on 09/25/2008 12:02:57 AM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: CurlyBill

The night my dad died I had a hang up call on my voice messaging. Considering the situation, it could have been anyone. But, my Grand Aunt told me she also got a hang up call about the same time across the country.


40 posted on 09/25/2008 12:12:39 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: KamperKen

I had heard paranormal things always happen at 3 am. Guess which time I frequently awaken in the middle of the night. lol. Always between 3:01 and 3:15 a.m.


41 posted on 09/25/2008 12:19:17 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

John 14: Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Mighty bold statement for a mere Man...


42 posted on 09/25/2008 4:33:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: HungarianGypsy

Do they want to speak to Bill; or Hillary?


43 posted on 09/25/2008 4:34:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LibertyRocks
I’ve never seen that happen here before.

And now; FR is down!

44 posted on 09/25/2008 4:40:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CurlyBill

My cell phone called a friend of mine numerous times all by itself. I had to take her name out of my directory to get it stopped. It has buttons on it’s side that activate automatic voice recognition. It is supposed to dial a person if you say his name. I wouldn’t even know when it made a call.


45 posted on 09/25/2008 4:47:52 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: beckysueb

They used a thing on me that stops the bleeding and you don’t have to be still for 12 hours. At another hospital I know of a man who went through what your husband went through. Depends on the hospital, I guess.


46 posted on 09/25/2008 6:36:34 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: CurlyBill

WOW! Just because our Physical Body dies does not mean our spirit is gone right away, as we say Goodbye temporarily to find our eternal home with the Creator..

Inspiring Story!


47 posted on 09/25/2008 11:44:46 AM PDT by TaraP (A Big Black Horse and a Cherry Tree)
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To: Terry Mross

I believe you. I have seen too many things in my life to think we die and that’s the end. Thanks for your story.


48 posted on 09/26/2008 2:18:16 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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